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geneaum@hotmail.com
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      03-14-2006, 12:33 AM
In the process of editing a 2hr 20min movie in Premiere Pro 2 I've come
to realize Premiere's exporting abilities are fraught with problems,
non-state-of-the-art compression, and in general not as robust as other
areas of the program. I've spent over a week with the three exporting
modes of PP2 (movie, DVD, A.M.E.) and have had major issues w/ each.

Here's an example:

When attempting to export to an mpeg in PP2 (via Adobe Media Encoder) I
get the following error "Multiplexing has failed.please recheck the
settings and try again". The export completes 2hrs of a 2hr 19min
production. The video was captured from a DV cam - in NTSC 16:9. I
tried
both Range settings of 'Entire Seq', and 'Work Area'. No diff.

Hardly any info found on the net. Two reference in google - one in
italian and one in german.
The books I have shed no light on this either.

Other exporting adventures include huge file sizes, crappy looking
video (regardless of interlace/square pixel/etc).
In 'Export To DVD' I get 'Space required is more than 4.7GB' when
selecting 'folder'. One would think if saving to a folder it shouldn't
matter.

The 'Audio upmixing is not allowed' is really obnoxious.

Then there's the trialware for Dolby Digital audio encoding in mpeg2

Exporting options for AVI are a joke - all very old compression
technologies.

Are there any websites/forums that address exporting issues of PP2? I
just want to get good quality 15fps video for export to the web.

I'm thinking of switching to Sony Vegas in hopes that it's exporting
capabilities would be an improvement over Premiere. Anyone with words
of wisdom on this subject?

 
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Major Malone
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      03-14-2006, 04:48 AM
I've found Adobe Premiere to be the most reliable piece of software
I've ever used and whenever I find somebody trashing it, I think "who
does this guy work for?" BTW, I don't work for Adobe, I work for a
company that makes a competing product that I could get for free, but I
pay to get Adobe. That's how much I think of it.

 
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Richard Crowley
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      03-14-2006, 06:48 AM
"Major Malone" wrote ...
> I've found Adobe Premiere to be the most reliable piece of software
> I've ever used and whenever I find somebody trashing it, I think "who
> does this guy work for?" BTW, I don't work for Adobe, I work for a
> company that makes a competing product that I could get for free, but
> I
> pay to get Adobe. That's how much I think of it.


A agree 127%. However note that the great variety of hardware
and software configurations available in the PC world is both a
blessing and a curse. It doesn't take much to make a Mac app which
runs only in their safe little world. It takes someone with guts to
publish and support an application that runs as well as it does on
literally 10s of millions of combinations of different HW/SW configs.

 
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RS
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      03-14-2006, 01:56 PM
(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> In the process of editing a 2hr 20min movie in Premiere Pro 2 I've come
> to realize Premiere's exporting abilities are fraught with problems,
> non-state-of-the-art compression, and in general not as robust as other
> areas of the program. I've spent over a week with the three exporting
> modes of PP2 (movie, DVD, A.M.E.) and have had major issues w/ each.
>
> Here's an example:
>
> When attempting to export to an mpeg in PP2 (via Adobe Media Encoder) I
> get the following error "Multiplexing has failed.please recheck the
> settings and try again". The export completes 2hrs of a 2hr 19min
> production. The video was captured from a DV cam - in NTSC 16:9. I
> tried
> both Range settings of 'Entire Seq', and 'Work Area'. No diff.


Which suggests there is something wrong with your audio track at the 2
HR mark. Have you tried exporting Audio only? Perhaps render audio to a
new track?


> Hardly any info found on the net. Two reference in google - one in
> italian and one in german.
> The books I have shed no light on this either.


Suggesting that this does not happen alot in the normal course of using
the program.




> Other exporting adventures include huge file sizes, crappy looking
> video (regardless of interlace/square pixel/etc).
> In 'Export To DVD' I get 'Space required is more than 4.7GB' when
> selecting 'folder'. One would think if saving to a folder it shouldn't
> matter.


"Crappy exporting" is kind of a wide ranging complaint, considering as
how codecs are firmly in the 'land of a thousand settings'.

Its not suprising that Export to DVD checks for DVD disk size. Saving to
a folder does in fact matter. Many people create their DVD copy on hard
disk and then burn multiple copies of that.


> The 'Audio upmixing is not allowed' is really obnoxious.
>
> Then there's the trialware for Dolby Digital audio encoding in mpeg2


What about it? They want to sell you something.


> Exporting options for AVI are a joke - all very old compression
> technologies.


Shrug. So use Divx or Xvid if you want Avi containers. Does Adobe not
allow 3rd party codecs?


> Are there any websites/forums that address exporting issues of PP2? I
> just want to get good quality 15fps video for export to the web.
>
> I'm thinking of switching to Sony Vegas in hopes that it's exporting
> capabilities would be an improvement over Premiere. Anyone with words
> of wisdom on this subject?
>


As a longtime user of Sony Vegas, I can likely assure you that you won't
find a night and day difference. Both Vegas and Premiere Pro are quality
programs neither of which can beat the other up with a stick.

You want Web video? Why not use the Windows Media codecs? I'm sure they
are available to you through Premiere. If you have some extra cash,
consider the Flash Video format. Sorenson Squeeze won't set you back an
arm and a leg (maybe just the arm) and it produces very good quality
video designed for the web. If a browser can play a flash animation, it
can play a flash video.

 
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PTravel
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      03-14-2006, 04:17 PM

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> In the process of editing a 2hr 20min movie in Premiere Pro 2 I've come
> to realize Premiere's exporting abilities are fraught with problems,
> non-state-of-the-art compression, and in general not as robust as other
> areas of the program. I've spent over a week with the three exporting
> modes of PP2 (movie, DVD, A.M.E.) and have had major issues w/ each.


I seem to recall that each sequence is limited to 2 hours, at least in 1.5.
Is your entire project on a single sequence? If so, break it up, export
each separately and combine them in your authoring program.



>
> Here's an example:
>
> When attempting to export to an mpeg in PP2 (via Adobe Media Encoder) I
> get the following error "Multiplexing has failed.please recheck the
> settings and try again". The export completes 2hrs of a 2hr 19min
> production. The video was captured from a DV cam - in NTSC 16:9. I
> tried
> both Range settings of 'Entire Seq', and 'Work Area'. No diff.
>
> Hardly any info found on the net. Two reference in google - one in
> italian and one in german.
> The books I have shed no light on this either.
>
> Other exporting adventures include huge file sizes, crappy looking
> video (regardless of interlace/square pixel/etc).
> In 'Export To DVD' I get 'Space required is more than 4.7GB' when
> selecting 'folder'. One would think if saving to a folder it shouldn't
> matter.
>
> The 'Audio upmixing is not allowed' is really obnoxious.
>
> Then there's the trialware for Dolby Digital audio encoding in mpeg2
>
> Exporting options for AVI are a joke - all very old compression
> technologies.
>
> Are there any websites/forums that address exporting issues of PP2? I
> just want to get good quality 15fps video for export to the web.
>
> I'm thinking of switching to Sony Vegas in hopes that it's exporting
> capabilities would be an improvement over Premiere. Anyone with words
> of wisdom on this subject?
>



 
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