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Brian
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      05-27-2011, 03:27 AM
On my first attemp to render a AVCHD 1920 x 1080 video to a suitable
file for creating a DVD turned out bad.
I chose the setting "MainConcept AVC/AAC MP4" which took 5 hours to
render a 25 minute video and resulted in a 168 Meg MP4 file that
looked like a low quality video when ever the picture panned.

I'm going to try these settings on my second attend. If there are
better settings then please advise me.

MainConcept MPEG-2
Variable bitrate
Max video bps 7,000,000
Avg video bps 6,000,000
Min video bps 192,000
Video quality = 31 (Best)
Output type = DVD
Width = 1920 (I thought this would have changed when I selected DVD)
Height = 1080
I-Frames = 12
Insert I Frames at markers
Profile = Main
Level = Main
Lower field first

Once the video has produced a MPG file I'll load it into DVDArchitech
to create a DVD.

I could experiment but waiting 5 hours for the file to render each
time takes time.

Regards Brian

 
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      05-27-2011, 04:35 AM
On 27/05/2011 1:27 PM, Brian wrote:
> On my first attemp to render a AVCHD 1920 x 1080 video to a suitable
> file for creating a DVD turned out bad.
> I chose the setting "MainConcept AVC/AAC MP4" which took 5 hours to
> render a 25 minute video and resulted in a 168 Meg MP4 file that
> looked like a low quality video when ever the picture panned.
>
> I'm going to try these settings on my second attend. If there are
> better settings then please advise me.
>
> MainConcept MPEG-2
> Variable bitrate
> Max video bps 7,000,000
> Avg video bps 6,000,000
> Min video bps 192,000
> Video quality = 31 (Best)
> Output type = DVD
> Width = 1920 (I thought this would have changed when I selected DVD)
> Height = 1080
> I-Frames = 12
> Insert I Frames at markers
> Profile = Main
> Level = Main
> Lower field first
>
> Once the video has produced a MPG file I'll load it into DVDArchitech
> to create a DVD.
>
> I could experiment but waiting 5 hours for the file to render each
> time takes time.
>
> Regards Brian
>


sd or hd dvd?

there's no such thing as a 'hd' dvd. though you can put hd on an a dvd.

 
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      05-27-2011, 08:42 AM
On Fri, 27 May 2011 15:27:48 +1200, Brian <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On my first attemp to render a AVCHD 1920 x 1080 video to a suitable
>file for creating a DVD turned out bad.
>I chose the setting "MainConcept AVC/AAC MP4" which took 5 hours to
>render a 25 minute video and resulted in a 168 Meg MP4 file that
>looked like a low quality video when ever the picture panned.
>
>I'm going to try these settings on my second attend. If there are
>better settings then please advise me.
>
>MainConcept MPEG-2
>Variable bitrate
>Max video bps 7,000,000
>Avg video bps 6,000,000
>Min video bps 192,000
>Video quality = 31 (Best)
>Output type = DVD
>Width = 1920 (I thought this would have changed when I selected DVD)
>Height = 1080
>I-Frames = 12
>Insert I Frames at markers
>Profile = Main
>Level = Main
>Lower field first
>
>Once the video has produced a MPG file I'll load it into DVDArchitech
>to create a DVD.
>
>I could experiment but waiting 5 hours for the file to render each
>time takes time.


I've found Vegas produces good results with the default settings.
However you are rendering to a higher resolution that I was (PAL DVDs
are 720x576). I would guess that 1920x1080 DVDs would not play on
most DVD players.

I would suggest either increase the bitrate or lower the resolution.

If you want to experiment: Edit a few short clips together and render
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      05-27-2011, 09:32 AM
On 5/26/2011 11:27 PM, Brian wrote:
> On my first attemp to render a AVCHD 1920 x 1080 video to a suitable
> file for creating a DVD turned out bad.
> I chose the setting "MainConcept AVC/AAC MP4" which took 5 hours to
> render a 25 minute video and resulted in a 168 Meg MP4 file that
> looked like a low quality video when ever the picture panned.
>
> I'm going to try these settings on my second attend. If there are
> better settings then please advise me.
>
> MainConcept MPEG-2
> Variable bitrate
> Max video bps 7,000,000
> Avg video bps 6,000,000
> Min video bps 192,000
> Video quality = 31 (Best)
> Output type = DVD
> Width = 1920 (I thought this would have changed when I selected DVD)
> Height = 1080
> I-Frames = 12
> Insert I Frames at markers
> Profile = Main
> Level = Main
> Lower field first
>
> Once the video has produced a MPG file I'll load it into DVDArchitech
> to create a DVD.
>
> I could experiment but waiting 5 hours for the file to render each
> time takes time.
>
> Regards Brian



Understand that your DVD will NEVER have the quality that your source
video does as it's 1/6th of the original resolution.
Render using the "DVD Architect PAL Widescreen video stream" setting for
video and AC-3 for you audio as a separate stream.
Since the video is only 25 min. long, forget about VBR.
Instead, use a CBR setting of 8,000,000
Make sure both streams have the same name and get rendered to the same
folder.
That way, when you load the video stream into DVD Architect, the audio
will automatically follow.

Mike
 
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      07-02-2011, 05:09 AM
Mike Kujbida <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:


>
>Understand that your DVD will NEVER have the quality that your source
>video does as it's 1/6th of the original resolution.
>Render using the "DVD Architect PAL Widescreen video stream" setting for
>video and AC-3 for you audio as a separate stream.
>Since the video is only 25 min. long, forget about VBR.
>Instead, use a CBR setting of 8,000,000
>Make sure both streams have the same name and get rendered to the same
>folder.
>That way, when you load the video stream into DVD Architect, the audio
>will automatically follow.
>
>Mike


Why does the audio have to be a seperate stream?

Regards Brian
 
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      07-02-2011, 09:36 AM
On 7/2/2011 1:09 AM, Brian wrote:
> Mike Kujbida<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Understand that your DVD will NEVER have the quality that your source
>> video does as it's 1/6th of the original resolution.
>> Render using the "DVD Architect PAL Widescreen video stream" setting for
>> video and AC-3 for you audio as a separate stream.
>> Since the video is only 25 min. long, forget about VBR.
>> Instead, use a CBR setting of 8,000,000
>> Make sure both streams have the same name and get rendered to the same
>> folder.
>> That way, when you load the video stream into DVD Architect, the audio
>> will automatically follow.
>>
>> Mike

>
> Why does the audio have to be a seperate stream?
>
> Regards Brian



If you give DVDA a file that has combined audio and video, it will
either refuse it or re-encode it causing further quality loss.

Mike
 
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      07-02-2011, 02:19 PM
Mike Kujbida <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On 7/2/2011 1:09 AM, Brian wrote:
>> Mike Kujbida<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Understand that your DVD will NEVER have the quality that your source
>>> video does as it's 1/6th of the original resolution.
>>> Render using the "DVD Architect PAL Widescreen video stream" setting for
>>> video and AC-3 for you audio as a separate stream.
>>> Since the video is only 25 min. long, forget about VBR.
>>> Instead, use a CBR setting of 8,000,000
>>> Make sure both streams have the same name and get rendered to the same
>>> folder.
>>> That way, when you load the video stream into DVD Architect, the audio
>>> will automatically follow.
>>>
>>> Mike

>>
>> Why does the audio have to be a seperate stream?
>>
>> Regards Brian

>
>
>If you give DVDA a file that has combined audio and video, it will
>either refuse it or re-encode it causing further quality loss.
>
>Mike


I was successful last time I used the settings you suggested when
compiling the video in Vegas Pro but this time it has created a mpg
video with no sound.

Regards Brian
 
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      07-02-2011, 02:27 PM
On 7/2/2011 10:19 AM, Brian wrote:
> Mike Kujbida<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> On 7/2/2011 1:09 AM, Brian wrote:
>>> Mike Kujbida<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Understand that your DVD will NEVER have the quality that your source
>>>> video does as it's 1/6th of the original resolution.
>>>> Render using the "DVD Architect PAL Widescreen video stream" setting for
>>>> video and AC-3 for you audio as a separate stream.
>>>> Since the video is only 25 min. long, forget about VBR.
>>>> Instead, use a CBR setting of 8,000,000
>>>> Make sure both streams have the same name and get rendered to the same
>>>> folder.
>>>> That way, when you load the video stream into DVD Architect, the audio
>>>> will automatically follow.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Why does the audio have to be a seperate stream?
>>>
>>> Regards Brian

>>
>>
>> If you give DVDA a file that has combined audio and video, it will
>> either refuse it or re-encode it causing further quality loss.
>>
>> Mike

>
> I was successful last time I used the settings you suggested when
> compiling the video in Vegas Pro but this time it has created a mpg
> video with no sound.
>
> Regards Brian



Refresh my memory.
What settings were they?
My standard recommendation is MPEG-2 and AC-3 streams from Vegas.
Give both the same name and render to the same folder.
That way, when you add the MPEG-2 file to DVDA, the AC-3 file
automatically follows.

Mike
 
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      07-03-2011, 01:23 AM
Mike Kujbida <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On 7/2/2011 10:19 AM, Brian wrote:
>> Mike Kujbida<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/2/2011 1:09 AM, Brian wrote:
>>>> Mike Kujbida<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Understand that your DVD will NEVER have the quality that your source
>>>>> video does as it's 1/6th of the original resolution.
>>>>> Render using the "DVD Architect PAL Widescreen video stream" setting for
>>>>> video and AC-3 for you audio as a separate stream.
>>>>> Since the video is only 25 min. long, forget about VBR.
>>>>> Instead, use a CBR setting of 8,000,000
>>>>> Make sure both streams have the same name and get rendered to the same
>>>>> folder.
>>>>> That way, when you load the video stream into DVD Architect, the audio
>>>>> will automatically follow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> Why does the audio have to be a seperate stream?
>>>>
>>>> Regards Brian
>>>
>>>
>>> If you give DVDA a file that has combined audio and video, it will
>>> either refuse it or re-encode it causing further quality loss.
>>>
>>> Mike

>>
>> I was successful last time I used the settings you suggested when
>> compiling the video in Vegas Pro but this time it has created a mpg
>> video with no sound.
>>
>> Regards Brian

>
>
>Refresh my memory.
>What settings were they?
>My standard recommendation is MPEG-2 and AC-3 streams from Vegas.
>Give both the same name and render to the same folder.
>That way, when you add the MPEG-2 file to DVDA, the AC-3 file
>automatically follows.
>
>Mike


Thanks Mike.

They were the settings from your older post. see text at the start of
this post.
I have a feeling that there is a setting to tell Vegas what sound I'm
using, which may be my problem.

Regards Brian
 
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      07-03-2011, 07:03 AM
On 7/2/2011 9:23 PM, Brian wrote:
> Mike Kujbida<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> On 7/2/2011 10:19 AM, Brian wrote:
>>> Mike Kujbida<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/2/2011 1:09 AM, Brian wrote:
>>>>> Mike Kujbida<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Understand that your DVD will NEVER have the quality that your source
>>>>>> video does as it's 1/6th of the original resolution.
>>>>>> Render using the "DVD Architect PAL Widescreen video stream" setting for
>>>>>> video and AC-3 for you audio as a separate stream.
>>>>>> Since the video is only 25 min. long, forget about VBR.
>>>>>> Instead, use a CBR setting of 8,000,000
>>>>>> Make sure both streams have the same name and get rendered to the same
>>>>>> folder.
>>>>>> That way, when you load the video stream into DVD Architect, the audio
>>>>>> will automatically follow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> Why does the audio have to be a seperate stream?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards Brian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you give DVDA a file that has combined audio and video, it will
>>>> either refuse it or re-encode it causing further quality loss.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>
>>> I was successful last time I used the settings you suggested when
>>> compiling the video in Vegas Pro but this time it has created a mpg
>>> video with no sound.
>>>
>>> Regards Brian

>>
>>
>> Refresh my memory.
>> What settings were they?
>> My standard recommendation is MPEG-2 and AC-3 streams from Vegas.
>> Give both the same name and render to the same folder.
>> That way, when you add the MPEG-2 file to DVDA, the AC-3 file
>> automatically follows.
>>
>> Mike

>
> Thanks Mike.
>
> They were the settings from your older post. see text at the start of
> this post.
> I have a feeling that there is a setting to tell Vegas what sound I'm
> using, which may be my problem.
>
> Regards Brian



Unless you tell DVDA otherwise (or you've changed it's default
settings), it should be looking for an AC-3 file instead of a PCM (i.e.
WAV) file.

Mike
 
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