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I've finally decided to look into buying a new scanner, since I finally gave
up my darkroom. After doing some research I think I've settled on either
the Canon LS4000 or the Nikon IV ED (ls 40). I was hoping someone could
break this down for me. I have an HP Photosmart that I've been using and
it's worked fairly well.

I mainly use the scanner for B&W and color 35mm archiving. I'd like to be
able to make up to 11x14 prints, but I intend on using it for web design as
well.

Secondly, price is a concern. I've been able to find the Nikon for around
$500 after rebate, which is within my budget, but the Canon's 4000 dpi is a
definite draw. I'm curious to know whether the difference between 4000 dpi
and 2900 dpi is great. Also, how much of a difference is there between the
HP's 2400 dpi and the Nikon 2900? I'd love to spend the extra money and go
for the Nikon 4000, but I just don't think that's within my means right now.

Any suggestions? I'm at that pre-buying crossroads.

Thanks, Jen

In article <Ku8Ab.2337541$(E-Mail Removed)>, Jen
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>I've finally decided to look into buying a new scanner, since I finally gave
>up my darkroom. After doing some research I think I've settled on either
>the Canon LS4000 or the Nikon IV ED (ls 40). I was hoping someone could
>break this down for me. I have an HP Photosmart that I've been using and
>it's worked fairly well.
>
>I mainly use the scanner for B&W and color 35mm archiving. I'd like to be
>able to make up to 11x14 prints, but I intend on using it for web design as
>well.
>
>Secondly, price is a concern. I've been able to find the Nikon for around
>$500 after rebate, which is within my budget, but the Canon's 4000 dpi is a
>definite draw. I'm curious to know whether the difference between 4000 dpi
>and 2900 dpi is great. Also, how much of a difference is there between the
>HP's 2400 dpi and the Nikon 2900? I'd love to spend the extra money and go
>for the Nikon 4000, but I just don't think that's within my means right now.
>
>Any suggestions? I'm at that pre-buying crossroads.
>
Yes, the 4000dpi is significant - but you probably won't notice it too
much in the resolution stakes. Where it really provides a visible
benefit is grain aliasing, which is much less at 4000ppi than at 2900.
Grain aliasing makes your scan look much more grainy than the original
image, whether negative or positive film.

As for recommendations - look at the newer Nikon LS-50ED (Coolscan V - I
do wish Nikon would settle on one nomenclature instead of two!). That
gives you most of the benefits of the older LS-4000 at a price that is
lower than the LS-40ED (Coolscan IV).
--
Kennedy
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's ****ed.
Python Philosophers (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when replying)

> As for recommendations - look at the newer Nikon LS-50ED (Coolscan V - I
> do wish Nikon would settle on one nomenclature instead of two!). That
> gives you most of the benefits of the older LS-4000 at a price that is
> lower than the LS-40ED (Coolscan IV).
> --
> Kennedy
> Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
> A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's ****ed.
> Python Philosophers (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when
replying)

I just found one of those online, but I'm wondering - does the fact that
it's an import change anything with regards to systems? I've never bought
an import before.

Thanks, Jen

In article <%_bAb.1411493$(E-Mail Removed)>, Jen
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>
>> As for recommendations - look at the newer Nikon LS-50ED (Coolscan V - I
>> do wish Nikon would settle on one nomenclature instead of two!). That
>> gives you most of the benefits of the older LS-4000 at a price that is
>> lower than the LS-40ED (Coolscan IV).
>> --
>> Kennedy
>> Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
>> A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's ****ed.
>> Python Philosophers (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when
>replying)
>
>I just found one of those online, but I'm wondering - does the fact that
>it's an import change anything with regards to systems? I've never bought
>an import before.
>
It should not change anything with regard to systems or interfaces - its
only the warranty that is likely to be different. If that is an issue
then try to find a non-imported version.
--
Kennedy
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's ****ed.
Python Philosophers (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when replying)

In article <kVpMeja7bX0$(E-Mail Removed)>, Kennedy McEwen
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>In article <%_bAb.1411493$(E-Mail Removed)>, Jen
><(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>>
>>I just found one of those online, but I'm wondering - does the fact that
>>it's an import change anything with regards to systems? I've never bought
>>an import before.
>>
>It should not change anything with regard to systems or interfaces -
>its only the warranty that is likely to be different. If that is an
>issue then try to find a non-imported version.

Sorry about some false info there Jen, but if you are in North America
then you can't buy a non-imported version since they are not available
there yet. You can wait, of course, because they will appear in a
couple of months, or just go with the import. Is the Minolta 5400
outside of your price range?
--
Kennedy
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's ****ed.
Python Philosophers (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when replying)

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> In article <kVpMeja7bX0$(E-Mail Removed)>, Kennedy McEwen
> <(E-Mail Removed)> writes
> >In article <%_bAb.1411493$(E-Mail Removed)>, Jen
> ><(E-Mail Removed)> writes
> >>
> >>I just found one of those online, but I'm wondering - does the fact that
> >>it's an import change anything with regards to systems? I've never
bought
> >>an import before.
> >>
> >It should not change anything with regard to systems or interfaces -
> >its only the warranty that is likely to be different. If that is an
> >issue then try to find a non-imported version.
>
> Sorry about some false info there Jen, but if you are in North America
> then you can't buy a non-imported version since they are not available
> there yet. You can wait, of course, because they will appear in a
> couple of months, or just go with the import. Is the Minolta 5400
> outside of your price range?
> --
> Kennedy
> Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
> A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's ****ed.
> Python Philosophers (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when
replying)

I think the Minolta is a touch out of my price range, unfortunately. I'm
not against the idea of an import - I just have no idea what is different
about it, so I'm hesitant. I've sent an email to the vendor about the
import, so hopefully they will be able to explain it. I think I'd like the
4000 dpi so I suppose now it's really between the Canon 4000 and the Nikon V
or LS50 or whatever name they've chosen for it now

Thanks, Jen

In article <NAsAb.1474914$(E-Mail Removed)>, Jen
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>
>I think the Minolta is a touch out of my price range, unfortunately. I'm
>not against the idea of an import - I just have no idea what is different
>about it, so I'm hesitant. I've sent an email to the vendor about the
>import, so hopefully they will be able to explain it. I think I'd like the
>4000 dpi so I suppose now it's really between the Canon 4000 and the Nikon V
>or LS50 or whatever name they've chosen for it now
>
Personally, I would go with the Nikon, having tried both (well in my
case the Nikon was the CS-4000, which is effectively the CS-V with a
firewire interface instead of USB2.)

In my experience Nikon handle infrared dirt and scratch correction far
better than the Canon. Nikon ICE3 does it in a single pass, Canon Fare
uses a second pass with the same CCD and a different light source -
whether it is differences in the optical path or mismatches on the
stepper motor, the two passes don't seem to line up as well as a single
pass Nikon solution, so some dust and scratches just don't get
corrected, while adjacent areas are blurred. Also, the Nikon
implementation of ICE works with Kodachrome far better than the Canon
implementation. This is probably due just optimisation through
development, since the first Nikon scanners which used ICE didn't work
any better with Kodachrome than the Canon scanner does. I guess you
could just say that the Nikon scanner is just more developed solution
than the Canon one.
--
Kennedy
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's ****ed.
Python Philosophers (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when replying)

> Personally, I would go with the Nikon, having tried both (well in my
> case the Nikon was the CS-4000, which is effectively the CS-V with a
> firewire interface instead of USB2.)
>
> In my experience Nikon handle infrared dirt and scratch correction far
> better than the Canon. Nikon ICE3 does it in a single pass, Canon Fare
> uses a second pass with the same CCD and a different light source -
> whether it is differences in the optical path or mismatches on the
> stepper motor, the two passes don't seem to line up as well as a single
> pass Nikon solution, so some dust and scratches just don't get
> corrected, while adjacent areas are blurred. Also, the Nikon
> implementation of ICE works with Kodachrome far better than the Canon
> implementation. This is probably due just optimisation through
> development, since the first Nikon scanners which used ICE didn't work
> any better with Kodachrome than the Canon scanner does. I guess you
> could just say that the Nikon scanner is just more developed solution
> than the Canon one.
> --
> Kennedy
> Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
> A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's ****ed.
> Python Philosophers (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when
replying)


Thanks for all the help. I decided to go with the Nikon import. I called
the vendor (instead of relying on email) and asked a few questions. The
import is apparently built in the same factory, wiht the major difference
being in the warranty. They offered it at a lower price because the rebate
doesn't apply, so while it was a bit more than I wanted to spend, I'd rather
have a scanner that I'll use and be happy with than one that is merely
sufficient. I'm a big fan of Nikon, I use both their SLR and Digital
options, so I'm hoping the scanner will be of the same quality.

Thanks again, Jen

In article <sBJAb.2554754$(E-Mail Removed)>, Jen
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>
>Thanks for all the help. I decided to go with the Nikon import. I called
>the vendor (instead of relying on email) and asked a few questions. The
>import is apparently built in the same factory, wiht the major difference
>being in the warranty. They offered it at a lower price because the rebate
>doesn't apply, so while it was a bit more than I wanted to spend, I'd rather
>have a scanner that I'll use and be happy with than one that is merely
>sufficient. I'm a big fan of Nikon, I use both their SLR and Digital
>options, so I'm hoping the scanner will be of the same quality.
>
I am sure that you will not be disappointed.
--
Kennedy
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's ****ed.
Python Philosophers (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when replying)