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On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:41:27 -0600, Ron Hunter wrote:

> You are quite right. I just checked our stainless cookware, and it is
> NOT magnetic. Somehow, I suspect that there is VERY little iron in it.
> Just how much iron must be in something sold as 'steel'? Is there any
> labeling requirement?

It's not the lack of iron that makes stainless steel non-magnetic.
It's the way that it's heat-treated as well as the other metals that
are added. From what I've read (I guess you missed the quotes and
links) after the steel is heated to make it non-magnetic, nickel is
added to (among other things) keep it non-magnetic after it cools.
Here are the links I posted :

http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae546.cfm

http://www.supremesteel.co.nz/articl...l_magnetic.php

On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:51:55 -0800, John McWilliams wrote:

> You seem to have overlooked those of us who don't much care whether
> stainless is magnetizable or not......Though I am open to be persuaded
> why I should be. :-)

Have you no moral compass, sir?

In rec.photo.digital.slr-systems John McWilliams <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Chris Malcolm wrote:
>> In rec.photo.digital.slr-systems Alan Browne <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>> Ron Hunter wrote:
>>>> John A. wrote:
>>
>>>>> We have an employee with some of those fancy stainless steel
>>>>> appliances. She says magnets don't stick.
>>>> If a magnet doesn't stick to it, then it is NOT really stainless steel.
>>>> More likely brushed aluminum.
>>
>>> ... will somebody...
>>
>> I'd be surprised if anyone posting in this thread doesn't have in
>> their house a magnet and both kinds of stainless steel. The standard
>> of empirical enquiry in this newsgroup is very disappointing. And
>> everyone posting here has trivially easy access to google. The
>> standard of research is pretty disappointing too. No wonder so many
>> are puzzled by their cameras :-)

> You seem to have overlooked those of us who don't much care whether
> stainless is magnetizable or not......Though I am open to be persuaded
> why I should be. :-)

You mean there are people posting opinions about the magnetisability
of stainless steel in this thread who don't know what they're talking
about and don't much care? Why would they be doing that?

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Chris Malcolm

In rec.photo.digital.slr-systems Ron Hunter <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Chris Malcolm wrote:
>> In rec.photo.digital.slr-systems Alan Browne <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>> Ron Hunter wrote:
>>>> John A. wrote:
>>
>>>>> We have an employee with some of those fancy stainless steel
>>>>> appliances. She says magnets don't stick.
>>>> If a magnet doesn't stick to it, then it is NOT really stainless steel.
>>>> More likely brushed aluminum.
>>
>>> ... will somebody...

>> I'd be surprised if anyone posting in this thread doesn't have in
>> their house a magnet and both kinds of stainless steel. The standard
>> of empirical enquiry in this newsgroup is very disappointing. And
>> everyone posting here has trivially easy access to google. The
>> standard of research is pretty disappointing too. No wonder so many
>> are puzzled by their cameras :-)

> Well, for over 1500 years it was believed that spiders had six legs
> because Aristotle (I think) said they were insects, and ALL insects had
> six legs. Surely someone in all those years actually COUNTED the spider
> legs....

Of course they did. The problem was that nobody who counted as an
authority did :-)

> At least I got curious and took the 'rare earth' magnetic I
> keep handy and TESTED to see if the 'stainless steel' cookware my wife
> bought was magnetic, and found it was not. Now, just HOW can the label
> something with so little iron in it 'steel'?

It contains lots of iron.

> Of course, anyone who uses
> stainless steel knows that the name 'stainless' is a misnomer also as it
> stains quite easily, but rather should be called 'rustless'. But then
> if you leave the iron out of it, of course it is rustless! Now I
> understand why it is more expensive than a cast iron pot, it is really
> nickel, or chromium, both of which are much more expensive.
> Amazing what one can learn in this newsgroup.

It's rather less amazing if you do a bit of checking and discard the
nonsense that's so generously offered :-)

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Chris Malcolm

On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 07:01:24 -0600, ken-torrins <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>On 23 Dec 2008 10:05:06 GMT, Chris Malcolm <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>In rec.photo.digital.slr-systems John McWilliams <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>> Chris Malcolm wrote:
>>>> In rec.photo.digital.slr-systems Alan Browne <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>>> Ron Hunter wrote:
>>>>>> John A. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> We have an employee with some of those fancy stainless steel
>>>>>>> appliances. She says magnets don't stick.
>>>>>> If a magnet doesn't stick to it, then it is NOT really stainless steel.
>>>>>> More likely brushed aluminum.
>>>>
>>>>> ... will somebody...
>>>>
>>>> I'd be surprised if anyone posting in this thread doesn't have in
>>>> their house a magnet and both kinds of stainless steel. The standard
>>>> of empirical enquiry in this newsgroup is very disappointing. And
>>>> everyone posting here has trivially easy access to google. The
>>>> standard of research is pretty disappointing too. No wonder so many
>>>> are puzzled by their cameras :-)
>>
>>> You seem to have overlooked those of us who don't much care whether
>>> stainless is magnetizable or not......Though I am open to be persuaded
>>> why I should be. :-)
>>
>>You mean there are people posting opinions about the magnetisability
>>of stainless steel in this thread who don't know what they're talking
>>about and don't much care? Why would they be doing that?
>
>
>Grasshopper, do you not fail to grasp that all involved are the main
>resident-trolls? This is what they do. This is how they live out their lives.
>Their computer screen and keyboard is all that they have for companionship. Then
>people wonder why they go on and on about things that they know nothing about
>when it comes to cameras and photography too. They don't own cameras, they only
>know how to look up just enough on google to perpetuate their foolish arguments,
>to disrupt the exchange of real information from real photographers who have
>real experience using real cameras.
>
>Get with the program.

Come on, dude. Don't leave us hangin'!

Alan Browne wrote:
> Mark Thomas wrote:
>
>> Your family life revolves around the fridge - there are messages,
>> calendars, sentimental trinkets, witty sayings, obscene little trolls
>> (why did I think of that?), dreamcatchers, reminders, ads for
>> essential services like Jeff's AirCon Regas, all safe and secure with
>> their little magnetized backs....
>
> If my life revolves around the fridge it's 'cause of all that yummy food
> in there...
>
Me too, I was being hypothetical. I can't stand stuff on the fridge..
If we wanted a noticeboard we'd buy one. It just amuses me to see what
some people stick on them.

And here's an etiquette question. When visiting someone (oh, let's say
an acquaintance rather than a close friend), is it rude to look at
what's on their fridge? The only reason I ask is that sometimes I
notice the things on there can give a rather intimate insight into their
affairs.. (O:

Mark Thomas wrote:
> Alan Browne wrote:
>> Mark Thomas wrote:
>>
>>> Your family life revolves around the fridge - there are messages,
>>> calendars, sentimental trinkets, witty sayings, obscene little trolls
>>> (why did I think of that?), dreamcatchers, reminders, ads for
>>> essential services like Jeff's AirCon Regas, all safe and secure with
>>> their little magnetized backs....
>>
>> If my life revolves around the fridge it's 'cause of all that yummy food
>> in there...
>>
> Me too, I was being hypothetical. I can't stand stuff on the fridge..
> If we wanted a noticeboard we'd buy one. It just amuses me to see what
> some people stick on them.
>
> And here's an etiquette question. When visiting someone (oh, let's say
> an acquaintance rather than a close friend), is it rude to look at
> what's on their fridge? The only reason I ask is that sometimes I
> notice the things on there can give a rather intimate insight into their
> affairs.. (O:

Thanks to this thread, I will personally inspect the magnetic qualities
of any future purchase of large kitchen appliances.

I really hate it when I see someone's icebox covered in invitations to
parties I didn't know about. That's obnoxious! So, if it's on the box,
it's your duty to read closely.......or at least oooh and aaaah over the
cute photos.

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john mcwilliams