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Alan Browne
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      05-06-2005, 08:44 PM
David H. Lipman wrote:

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> Considering it was a 1st level quote I didn't think snipping was warranted.


Snipping is always warranted.
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      05-06-2005, 08:50 PM
From: "Alan Browne" <(E-Mail Removed)>

| David H. Lipman wrote:
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>> Considering it was a 1st level quote I didn't think snipping was warranted.

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| Snipping is always warranted.
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That's a matter of opinion.

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      05-06-2005, 09:06 PM

"Bandicoot" <"insert_handle_here"@techemail.com> wrote in message
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> "Alan Browne" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:wgMee.38832$(E-Mail Removed).. .
> [SNIP]
>>
>> Dr. Robert J. Charlson, a professor of atmospheric sciences at the
>> University of Washington and an author of a commentary that
>> accompanied the three papers, said, "This set of papers, taken
>> together, calls attention for more emphasis on research in these
>> topics."
>>
>> But he added, "Unfortunately, impediments have come up." Four
>> years' worth of data from the Earth Radiation Budget Satellite is
>> unanalyzed, he said, because there is no money for scientists to work
>> with it.
>>
>> Another satellite, the Deep Space Climate Observatory, which was
>> scheduled to be launched on a space shuttle, awaits in storage.
>> Proposed budget cuts in earth science research at NASA could limit
>> the analysis of data from other satellites, Dr. Charlson said.
>>

>
> Funny how the most spendthift administration the US has ever had wants to
> make cuts in those programmes that might reveal the facts that are
> unpapteable to their pro-oil and never-mind-about-climate-change agenda...
>
> ;-)
>
>
> Peter
>
>

Of course....What do you expect? And the Democrats suppress statistics that
show its give away programs don't have any permanent effect on the overall
poverty level. Each administration turns its back on, and ignores
information that is contradictory to its avowed political agenda.


 
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Jim Redelfs
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      05-06-2005, 09:33 PM
In article <d5gkvn$56m$(E-Mail Removed)>,
Alan Browne <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Snipping is always warranted.


In article <6MQee.1521$hh6.278@trnddc01>,
"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:

> That's a matter of opinion.


No, that's a matter of FACT - and common, on-line courtesy.

Those that REFUSE to edit (snip, trim, whatever) their quotes are LAZY - pure
and simple.

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      05-06-2005, 11:27 PM
"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
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> From: "Bandicoot" <"insert_handle_here"@techemail.com>
>
>
> | There was an almost immediate, and statistically significant, rise in
> | average light levels all over North America in the three days after
> | 9/11 - so I think the dimming is due to air pollution. Air travel is

the
> | single | most air-polluting thing man does, and the grounding of
> | flights seems to | have had an almost instant impact. Bad news
> | either way.
> |
>
> Please show me that information.
>


It was academic rersearch by a climatologist quoted on a BBC documentary
recently, along with an interview with him and otherw working in the field.
Unfortunately that means that I don't remember the name, nor do I have a
written reference to cite. I imagine an online search would turn it up.


Peter


 
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      05-06-2005, 11:58 PM
Alan Browne wrote:

> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/06/science/06bright.html
>
> Some scientists have reported that from 1960 to 1990, the amount of
> sunshine reaching the ground decreased at a rate of 2 percent to 3
> percent per decade.
>
> In some places, the brightening of the 1990's has more than offset the
> dimming, Dr. Wild said. In other places, like Hong Kong, which lost more
> than a third of its sunlight, the dimming has leveled off, but skies
> remain darker than in the past. In a few places, like India, the dimming
> trend continues, he said.



So how many stops does this translate into in terms of improved camera
performance?

: - )


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      05-07-2005, 12:13 AM

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>
> So how many stops does this translate into in terms of improved camera
> performance?
>
> : - )


<LOL> I was thinking that all the way through this thread.


 
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Jim Redelfs
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      05-07-2005, 12:54 AM
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
"Sheldon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> > So how many stops does this translate into in terms of improved camera
> > performance?
> >
> > : - )


> <LOL> I was thinking that all the way through this thread.


OK. Sorry for the OT rant (snipping, etc).

Perhaps this <ahem> "global brightening" with cause my 20D+580EX to PROPERLY
expose the "frame".

HA!

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      05-07-2005, 01:03 AM
I know you folks spell words a little differently from us, but what is
unpapteable?


"Bandicoot" <"insert_handle_here"@techemail.com> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Alan Browne" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:wgMee.38832$(E-Mail Removed).. .
> [SNIP]
>>
>> Dr. Robert J. Charlson, a professor of atmospheric sciences at the
>> University of Washington and an author of a commentary that
>> accompanied the three papers, said, "This set of papers, taken
>> together, calls attention for more emphasis on research in these
>> topics."
>>
>> But he added, "Unfortunately, impediments have come up." Four
>> years' worth of data from the Earth Radiation Budget Satellite is
>> unanalyzed, he said, because there is no money for scientists to work
>> with it.
>>
>> Another satellite, the Deep Space Climate Observatory, which was
>> scheduled to be launched on a space shuttle, awaits in storage.
>> Proposed budget cuts in earth science research at NASA could limit
>> the analysis of data from other satellites, Dr. Charlson said.
>>

>
> Funny how the most spendthift administration the US has ever had wants to
> make cuts in those programmes that might reveal the facts that are
> unpapteable to their pro-oil and never-mind-about-climate-change agenda...
>
> ;-)
>
>
> Peter
>
>



 
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      05-07-2005, 06:59 AM
On Fri, 06 May 2005 14:47:23 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:

> David H. Lipman wrote:
>
>>
>> It's prabably due to the erruption of Mount Pinatubo in the Philippines mid '91. That was a
>> major erruption, It dropped the avg. Earth temperature and blocked a small percentage of
>> light from reaching the earth due to the large quantity of dust thrown into the upper
>> atmosphere.

>
> The article states that they're trying to figure out the "why".
>
> Cheers,
> Alan
>
> PS: A little snipping would have gone a long way there David.


Netcop Browne strikes again!

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