Help needed with CS3

Hi, I'm new and I'm not sure my posts are showing up, I've asked twice
in alt.photoshop.windows and despite of a hundredd posts since, nobody
has responded. Are my posts showing up?

I just finished installing Photoshop CS3 and I can't figure out how to
"undock" the palettes on the left, right, and top of the screen, and
also, how to change the palettes' background color from blinding,
glaring, eye-burning white to a soothing color of my choice.

Please help, and thanks!
--
Alan Birchard


Alan Birchard

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 07:18:42 -0700, Alan Birchard <no.e-(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>
>Hi, I'm new and I'm not sure my posts are showing up, I've asked twice
>in alt.photoshop.windows and despite of a hundredd posts since, nobody
>has responded. Are my posts showing up?
>
>I just finished installing Photoshop CS3 and I can't figure out how to
>"undock" the palettes on the left, right, and top of the screen, and
>also, how to change the palettes' background color from blinding,
>glaring, eye-burning white to a soothing color of my choice.
>
>Please help, and thanks!


I am afraid your posts does not show, Alan.
Try Tab - Shift/Tab or simply drag your palettes where you want it to
be. Getting stuck with a mixed up workspace, go Windows/Work
Space/Reset Palette Locations.

Other settings can be done at Edit/Preferences/General (or CTRL+K)

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 16:36:25 +0200, Dave <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I am afraid your posts does not show, Alan.

I'm glad this one did. Thank you for replying.

>Try Tab - Shift/Tab or simply drag your palettes

Okay, I have that sorted, except for the one across the top, the one
that makes the image I'm working on jump up and down when I tab the
pallettes away and back. It has to go. I can't stand to have the
image jump every time I conceal or reveal the palettes.

>Other settings can be done at Edit/Preferences/General (or CTRL+K)

Naturally that was the first place I went when I finished installing
CS3. It was only after I had exhausted every option that I came here
to ask for help with those most important to me, mainly, how to tone
down the hateful glaring white color scheme they seem to be trying to
force on me. Please see my other reply in this thread and know that
I'll greatly appreciate a solution.
--
Alan Birchard

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 08:35:28 -0600, John J <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>To hide or reveal them,

OK, I figured out how to float those on the left and right, now it's
just that annoying bar across the top, the one with "Style, Width,
Height, Slices, Workspace" etc... when I have a large image on the
screen and I hit Tab to vanish the palettes, the picture jumps up and
down a half inch, and this will make me insane within a week, so I
need to get that one floated as well. Or gone. Can you help?

>Can't help you with your eye-burn.

Well this is going to simply kill me. For ten years I have cursed
them (literally) for making all of the icons and text on the palettes
black, so they're invisible on my choice of background - black -
rather than simply respecting my chosen colors. I had to go through
and memorize every single icon and tickbox. I steadfastly refused to
go to a permanent white background and suffer the burning glare. I
felt that surely with this new mega-bucks bloatware mega-release they
would have grown up and freed me to choose the color of my text and
icons in the palettes, and instead, I find that they did the opposite,
they left it black, and now they forced the background to white to
accommodate their own choice of black text. I have never been so
disrespected by a piece of software in my life, except by Windows, of
course.

Please tell me this isn't so. There has to be a way to make those
palettes black with green text, or God forgive me in advance for
cursing them for another ten years, black with black text at the very
least. Who can sit and paint and think clearly and focus while trying
to squint at a work space that is tucked between the glare of incoming
headlights? Because I assure you, on a 50" widescreen plasma monitor,
that's just what those huge glaring snow white palettes look like.
It's miserable and I won't stand for it. How am I to relax and get
creative as Adobe so glowingly advertises they will help me do, when
they stick a couple flashlights in my face while I'm trying to do it?

Does someone here have the final word on this? Is this painful,
abominable forced white background incorporated into the program in
such a way that I can't even decide my own color scheme... in a
world-class paint program, no less?!??!!

I use the "Classic" Windows appearance scheme, and in Photoshop CS3,
the standard Windows menu bar across the top is WHITE, overriding my
chosen stated preferences, so now my light green text is next to
invisible! What is wrong with these people? Do they really expect to
herd us all into the same pen like cattle and make us all march to the
same rhythm? This is so absolutely contradictory to the freewheeling
creative attitude that they portray. Even the Help files... a forced
white background, and again, miserable and unusable with my light
green text.

Please, someone please, tell me I'm missing something and there's a
fix for all this. And while you're at it, is there a way to disable
the $%&*#! splash screen? I don't need to look at the list of their
names for another ten years.

Thanks for helping, John J.
--
Alan Birchard

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 07:18:42 -0700, Alan Birchard <no.e-(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>I can't figure out how to "undock" the palettes on the left,
>right, and top of the screen

Okay, I finally noticed the tiny drag bar on the extreme left and got
the one at the top to float, so all's well as far as positioning the
palettes and preventing the image from jumping. Now it's just a
question of the glaring white of the palteets... please see my other
posts and help if you can, because this is absolutely critical.
--
Alan Birchard

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 18:32:06 -0700, Alan Birchard <no.e-(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 07:18:42 -0700, Alan Birchard <no.e-(E-Mail Removed)>
>wrote:
>
>>I can't figure out how to "undock" the palettes on the left,
>>right, and top of the screen
>
>Okay, I finally noticed the tiny drag bar on the extreme left and got
>the one at the top to float, so all's well as far as positioning the
>palettes and preventing the image from jumping. Now it's just a
>question of the glaring white of the palteets... please see my other
>posts and help if you can, because this is absolutely critical.


I'm glad your problems is sorted out so far.
I was joking in my 1st post saying 'your posts does not show'
because obviously I replied to this one. You took it as if this was
the only showing,... but I have not seen the other.
A dumb joke thus:-)

Funny what your are saying about the white glare on the menu.
I never saw or heard someone else mentioning it.
Can it be that your vicinity (room) is to dark?
Or don't I notice it because of the tint in my glasses?

"Alan Birchard" <no.e-(E-Mail Removed)> schreef in bericht
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 08:35:28 -0600, John J <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>To hide or reveal them,
>
> OK, I figured out how to float those on the left and right, now it's
> just that annoying bar across the top, the one with "Style, Width,
> Height, Slices, Workspace" etc... when I have a large image on the
> screen and I hit Tab to vanish the palettes, the picture jumps up and
> down a half inch, and this will make me insane within a week, so I
> need to get that one floated as well. Or gone. Can you help?
>
>>Can't help you with your eye-burn.
>
> Well this is going to simply kill me. For ten years I have cursed
> them (literally) for making all of the icons and text on the palettes
> black, so they're invisible on my choice of background - black -
> rather than simply respecting my chosen colors. I had to go through
> and memorize every single icon and tickbox. I steadfastly refused to
> go to a permanent white background and suffer the burning glare. I
> felt that surely with this new mega-bucks bloatware mega-release they
> would have grown up and freed me to choose the color of my text and
> icons in the palettes, and instead, I find that they did the opposite,
> they left it black, and now they forced the background to white to
> accommodate their own choice of black text. I have never been so
> disrespected by a piece of software in my life, except by Windows, of
> course.
>
> Please tell me this isn't so. There has to be a way to make those
> palettes black with green text, or God forgive me in advance for
> cursing them for another ten years, black with black text at the very
> least. Who can sit and paint and think clearly and focus while trying
> to squint at a work space that is tucked between the glare of incoming
> headlights? Because I assure you, on a 50" widescreen plasma monitor,
> that's just what those huge glaring snow white palettes look like.
> It's miserable and I won't stand for it. How am I to relax and get
> creative as Adobe so glowingly advertises they will help me do, when
> they stick a couple flashlights in my face while I'm trying to do it?
>
> Does someone here have the final word on this? Is this painful,
> abominable forced white background incorporated into the program in
> such a way that I can't even decide my own color scheme... in a
> world-class paint program, no less?!??!!
>
> I use the "Classic" Windows appearance scheme, and in Photoshop CS3,
> the standard Windows menu bar across the top is WHITE, overriding my
> chosen stated preferences, so now my light green text is next to
> invisible! What is wrong with these people? Do they really expect to
> herd us all into the same pen like cattle and make us all march to the
> same rhythm? This is so absolutely contradictory to the freewheeling
> creative attitude that they portray. Even the Help files... a forced
> white background, and again, miserable and unusable with my light
> green text.
>
> Please, someone please, tell me I'm missing something and there's a
> fix for all this. And while you're at it, is there a way to disable
> the $%&*#! splash screen? I don't need to look at the list of their
> names for another ten years.
>
> Thanks for helping, John J.
> --
> Alan Birchard


You might want to consider a second monitor. Put all of the panels on that
one and just have your picture open on the first. (50"!!)
I know it isn't what you're looking for, but if it is that annoying to you
it might be a solution.

"Alan Birchard" <no.e-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 07:18:42 -0700, Alan Birchard <no.e-(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>>I can't figure out how to "undock" the palettes on the left,
>>right, and top of the screen
>
> Okay, I finally noticed the tiny drag bar on the extreme left and got
> the one at the top to float, so all's well as far as positioning the
> palettes and preventing the image from jumping. Now it's just a
> question of the glaring white of the palteets... please see my other
> posts and help if you can, because this is absolutely critical.
> --
> Alan Birchard

First of all if the white on your monitor is that bright it will not match
any paper you print on. And all your files will look muddy on everyone
else's darker screens.
can you set the temp of it to 6500?? or fix the brightness of the white?
my monitor has software to adjust it.

Second why would anyone want hideous green type on black background anyway??

If you knew how to use WINDOWS you could change the entire system to your
liking>>>>>>>>>>>> colors fonts sizes etc
do not use classic !!!
there are many custom skins that can be downloaded as well
it should change the entire system colors

in addition to all those choices you can add in windows the accessibility
features for vision challenged people
seriously if it can be made for almost blind people to see the screen in
whatever colors you desire
so quit blaming windows
'cause you don't know how to use it properly

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>
> "Alan Birchard" <no.e-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 07:18:42 -0700, Alan Birchard <no.e-(E-Mail Removed)>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I can't figure out how to "undock" the palettes on the left,
>>>right, and top of the screen
>>
>> Okay, I finally noticed the tiny drag bar on the extreme left and got
>> the one at the top to float, so all's well as far as positioning the
>> palettes and preventing the image from jumping. Now it's just a
>> question of the glaring white of the palteets... please see my other
>> posts and help if you can, because this is absolutely critical.
>> --
>> Alan Birchard
>
> First of all if the white on your monitor is that bright it will not match
> any paper you print on. And all your files will look muddy on everyone
> else's darker screens.
> can you set the temp of it to 6500?? or fix the brightness of the white?
> my monitor has software to adjust it.
>
> Second why would anyone want hideous green type on black background
> anyway??
>
> If you knew how to use WINDOWS you could change the entire system to your
> liking>>>>>>>>>>>> colors fonts sizes etc
> do not use classic !!!
> there are many custom skins that can be downloaded as well
> it should change the entire system colors
>
> in addition to all those choices you can add in windows the accessibility
> features for vision challenged people
> seriously if it can be made for almost blind people to see the screen in
> whatever colors you desire
> so quit blaming windows
> 'cause you don't know how to use it properly
>
>



Here is my follow up after trying this


windows control panel or right click desktop
display properties - appearances tab>>click advanced
use the drop downs to change the colors and fonts
click apply

if you make the background black .........true you cannot see menu items
unless hovered over-- but you can see the other menu items if you make a
contrast color font

for some reason this is the only type color I cannot change- the inactive
menu font color

I did make a background of green and other colors with various colors of
type visible
but the black was a problem for that one


IN addition control panel
accessibility

display tab

there are so many more schemes here
suggest slate scheme if you don't want white background

I didn't try them all

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 20:10:22 -0600, John J <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Alan, we would have to hack CS3 to get the menu color theme you wish,

So you're saying that my worst fears are true, and that the white is
hard coded? It's hard to imagine what kind of brutal mind could try
to force this on me, against my own wishes, on a machine that is
capable of giving me millions of choices... it's sickening.

>and I think it would be a great thing to do.

Thanks for that.

>(Oh, for the days of resedit).

Hmm?

>I'll keep it in the back of my mind. Great idea.
>
>Hang in there.

All I can do is keep using my ancient version 5 with the invisible
text and icons that I have spent ten years memorizing. I can't stand
to use CS3 for more than five minutes.
--
Alan Birchard