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Hi. Very new here. Was looking at the Lumix DMC-L1K to replace my D70 for
the more snap-shooty jobs. I have a couple of questions that I can't seem
to find answers on:

1) Can an eyeglasses wearer see the whole frame in the VF?
2) Is there a difference between the DMC-L1 and the DMC-L1K?
3) Does the standard zoom lens come with a hood, or is one available as an
option?

Any other pluses or minuses from folks that have actually shot the camera
wouyld be appreciated as well. Not to many articles yet.

Thanks.

D.

Douglas Tourtelot wrote:
> Hi. Very new here. Was looking at the Lumix DMC-L1K to replace my D70 for
> the more snap-shooty jobs. I have a couple of questions that I can't seem
> to find answers on:
>
> 1) Can an eyeglasses wearer see the whole frame in the VF?
> 2) Is there a difference between the DMC-L1 and the DMC-L1K?
> 3) Does the standard zoom lens come with a hood, or is one available as an
> option?
>
> Any other pluses or minuses from folks that have actually shot the camera
> wouyld be appreciated as well. Not to many articles yet.
>
> Thanks.
>
> D.

The finder is small and dim, but you should be able to see it all with
glasses on.
The grip, IMO, is uncomfortable because it is too short (height) for
the body thickness and blockiness. Unlike a sunken grip like on a
Nikon with the prominent front you can curl your hand around, the
DMC-L1 feels like a box with a ridge on it.
The camera looks terrific, but it is not very nice to use. It's
brother, the Olympus E-330 is more comfortable, has the articulating
LCD and isn't much more money for the body. However, Panasonic says
they will not be selling the Leica lens separately and it is a major
selling point of that "kit."

> The finder is small and dim, but you should be able to see it all with
> glasses on.
> The grip, IMO, is uncomfortable because it is too short (height) for
> the body thickness and blockiness. Unlike a sunken grip like on a
> Nikon with the prominent front you can curl your hand around, the
> DMC-L1 feels like a box with a ridge on it.
> The camera looks terrific, but it is not very nice to use. It's
> brother, the Olympus E-330 is more comfortable, has the articulating
> LCD and isn't much more money for the body. However, Panasonic says
> they will not be selling the Leica lens separately and it is a major
> selling point of that "kit."

Just curious ... do you own a Lumix DMC-L1K?

Does someone know what the difference is between the L1 and the L1K. I
really like this camera from afar, but I must say that it isn't getting
really high marks yet. I had almost considered abandoning it and going back
to Nikon's new D-80, but I really like the way this camera seems to follow
the small rangfinderish path. I've had and used the larger DSLRs and they
work great. But I think that I have also come to the conclusion that those
bigger cameras get between me and the shot sometimes.

D.

"Charles Schuler" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
>> The finder is small and dim, but you should be able to see it all with
>> glasses on.
>> The grip, IMO, is uncomfortable because it is too short (height) for
>> the body thickness and blockiness. Unlike a sunken grip like on a
>> Nikon with the prominent front you can curl your hand around, the
>> DMC-L1 feels like a box with a ridge on it.
>> The camera looks terrific, but it is not very nice to use. It's
>> brother, the Olympus E-330 is more comfortable, has the articulating
>> LCD and isn't much more money for the body. However, Panasonic says
>> they will not be selling the Leica lens separately and it is a major
>> selling point of that "kit."
>
> Just curious ... do you own a Lumix DMC-L1K?
>

Charles Schuler wrote:
> > The finder is small and dim, but you should be able to see it all with
> > glasses on.
> > The grip, IMO, is uncomfortable because it is too short (height) for
> > the body thickness and blockiness. Unlike a sunken grip like on a
> > Nikon with the prominent front you can curl your hand around, the
> > DMC-L1 feels like a box with a ridge on it.
> > The camera looks terrific, but it is not very nice to use. It's
> > brother, the Olympus E-330 is more comfortable, has the articulating
> > LCD and isn't much more money for the body. However, Panasonic says
> > they will not be selling the Leica lens separately and it is a major
> > selling point of that "kit."
>
> Just curious ... do you own a Lumix DMC-L1K?

No, I've used it a few times and the E-330. One of the Brit
publications just lambasted the camera saying it's image quality wasn't
that good and that without an articulated LCD, there wasn't much reason
for having one. They basically said they couldn't find a good reason
to buy it for what it costs. Got a nice "2 out of 5" for value for
money.
-Rich

I believe that the K version is black.

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Douglas Tourtelot wrote:
> Does someone know what the difference is between the L1 and the L1K. I

I bought one, loved it...

Until I saw the results :-(

Very poor low light focus performance
Purple fringing
Noisy images

Took it back to the camera shop, they would not change it, or send it away
for repair. Told me that the camera was very much a compromise and I had to
live with the problems I had encountered - really unhelpful.

I sold it at a considerable loss the following week.

I did buy a D80 last week though, and far from inhibiting me, it has been a
revelatory experience, sharp, great colours, virtually no noise. a really
good, clear and large viewfinder that helps me compose my photographs -
something I had difficulty doing with the Lumix.



"Douglas Tourtelot" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hi. Very new here. Was looking at the Lumix DMC-L1K to replace my D70
> for the more snap-shooty jobs. I have a couple of questions that I can't
> seem to find answers on:
>
> 1) Can an eyeglasses wearer see the whole frame in the VF?
> 2) Is there a difference between the DMC-L1 and the DMC-L1K?
> 3) Does the standard zoom lens come with a hood, or is one available as an
> option?
>
> Any other pluses or minuses from folks that have actually shot the camera
> wouyld be appreciated as well. Not to many articles yet.
>
> Thanks.
>
> D.
>
>
>

I had the same problem with the Lumix FZ15K. It had great features and
a nice zoom range. It had a sort of picture in picture for helping
with the focus on long range zoom. But the real problem was the noisy
images. Even in broad daylight, the shadows of a building were
incredibly noisy. It didn't matter how I set this exposure, I couldn't
tolerate the image noise. After a month of using this camera, I sold
it to someone who thought that it was great because of all the raving
reviews about it. So much for reviews...

I bought the Nikon D70s after this camera and I've been happy with it
since.

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Nigel Cummings wrote:
> I bought one, loved it...
>
> Until I saw the results :-(
>
> Very poor low light focus performance
> Purple fringing
> Noisy images
>
> Took it back to the camera shop, they would not change it, or send it away
> for repair. Told me that the camera was very much a compromise and I had to
> live with the problems I had encountered - really unhelpful.