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hippy
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      01-19-2004, 11:34 PM
I think I've got the model numbers roughly correct..

I want a big, stable tripod for use locally but I'm
also going on holiday for 4 weeks soon and need one
that will hold a 10D but doesn't weigh a tonne.

Transport in Europe will be car for 2 weeks (so big
tripod is no problem) but public transport for in Italy
and Germany for 2 weeks with flights in between (heavy
tripod problem).

Has anyone carried a Manfrotto 190Pro + 141RC
combo around for that length of time? Too heavy?

I'm not about to spend $1k+ on a carbon fibre
thing but I want to be able to actually walk around
lots without just giving up and leaving the tripod in
the hotel all the time and I don't want to buy one
that is less-than-optimal for local use.

I don't currently have any big tele lenses.

hippy


 
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      01-19-2004, 11:59 PM
What sort of lens setup you have?
The problem sometimes lies in the gear you carry .. not the tripod

But anyway buy a shoulder strap for your 190D ... it reduces the weight a
lot if put on your shoulder.

I never carry a tripod for that long, but during the NYE ... I carried it
for almost 7 hours in sea of ppl

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> I'm not about to spend $1k+ on a carbon fibre
> thing but I want to be able to actually walk around
> lots without just giving up and leaving the tripod in
> the hotel all the time and I don't want to buy one
> that is less-than-optimal for local use.




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      01-20-2004, 12:23 AM

"hippy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I think I've got the model numbers roughly correct..
>
> I want a big, stable tripod for use locally but I'm
> also going on holiday for 4 weeks soon and need one
> that will hold a 10D but doesn't weigh a tonne.
>
> Transport in Europe will be car for 2 weeks (so big
> tripod is no problem) but public transport for in Italy
> and Germany for 2 weeks with flights in between (heavy
> tripod problem).
>
> Has anyone carried a Manfrotto 190Pro + 141RC
> combo around for that length of time? Too heavy?
>
> I'm not about to spend $1k+ on a carbon fibre
> thing but I want to be able to actually walk around
> lots without just giving up and leaving the tripod in
> the hotel all the time and I don't want to buy one
> that is less-than-optimal for local use.
>
> I don't currently have any big tele lenses.
>
> hippy
>
>


I just did 5 weeks around the US, Canada, Caribbean, Hawaii using all
various modes of transport and I would have to say that my 190/141 was used
only a few times. It's not exactly the lightest tripod (far, far lighter
than my other 058B though).... but it was still an awkward thing to lug
around, so I didn't! It mostly stayed back in the room or in the boot.

This is the first time that I have done any real travel that involved lots
of luggage and stuff and basically "all" of my gear became a pain, so much
so that I chucked everything out of my 2nd (small) camera bag that carried
chargers and leads and stuff, and use that to carry my 10D, 17-40 and image
tank only. This was often painful for me, as I would see a shot and think
"Doh! I need the 70-200" ....but a "family holiday" and a "photo expedition"
are two things that simply CANNOT be combined. :-(

I have been back a couple of days now and my brother in-law has given me a
Lowepro Mini-Trecker backpack to try, as he was witness to my pain while OS,
and after playing with it today, I think it may have made a big difference.
I am able to carry my 10D, 70-200, 17-40, 28-70, 90mm macro, 1.4x & 550EX
with comfort, while the 190 hangs underneath. This would be the way I would
do it next time if I was on expedition, but if it's a family holiday I think
I will buy myself a G5 or some other P&S and leave the DSLR at home.

So if the trip is for photography, get a backpack to carry all your gear,
and the lightest/most stable tripod you can find and sling it underneath the
backpack. (remember I think the 190/141 is still too big/heavy for travel)
If the trip is a holiday with the family, forget it and go get a good P&S
and keep it in your pocket.

Enjoy your holiday.

Russell


 
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      01-20-2004, 01:44 AM
hippy wrote:
> I want a big, stable tripod for use locally but I'm
> also going on holiday for 4 weeks soon and need one
> that will hold a 10D but doesn't weigh a tonne.


I have a 190, the lightest of my three Manfrotto tripods.
I think it is a good travelling tripod -- reasonable price,
and just rigid enough for a camera like yours for lenses
up to, maybe, 200mm on a nice day.

I wouldn't choose the 141RC head for this job -- too
lumpy and awkward to carry around. Look at ball heads
instead.

I would echo what Russell said about getting a backpack
that is designed to carry the tripod. My choice is the
LowePro Rover Light:
http://www.lowepro.com/pages/series/street/rovlight.htm


 
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Craig Taylor
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      01-20-2004, 10:41 AM
I took my 190/141 to thailand and singapore early last year and managed to
fit it in my suitcase between the handle extension tubes. Worked a treat.

When I did carry it, it did get heavy but frequent rest stops (to take more
photos) helped

"hippy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I think I've got the model numbers roughly correct..
>
> I want a big, stable tripod for use locally but I'm
> also going on holiday for 4 weeks soon and need one
> that will hold a 10D but doesn't weigh a tonne.
>
> Transport in Europe will be car for 2 weeks (so big
> tripod is no problem) but public transport for in Italy
> and Germany for 2 weeks with flights in between (heavy
> tripod problem).
>
> Has anyone carried a Manfrotto 190Pro + 141RC
> combo around for that length of time? Too heavy?
>
> I'm not about to spend $1k+ on a carbon fibre
> thing but I want to be able to actually walk around
> lots without just giving up and leaving the tripod in
> the hotel all the time and I don't want to buy one
> that is less-than-optimal for local use.
>
> I don't currently have any big tele lenses.
>
> hippy
>
>



 
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      01-20-2004, 11:33 AM


dingbat wrote:

> hippy wrote:
>
>>I want a big, stable tripod for use locally but I'm
>>also going on holiday for 4 weeks soon and need one
>>that will hold a 10D but doesn't weigh a tonne.

>
>
> I have a 190, the lightest of my three Manfrotto tripods.
> I think it is a good travelling tripod -- reasonable price,
> and just rigid enough for a camera like yours for lenses
> up to, maybe, 200mm on a nice day.
>
> I wouldn't choose the 141RC head for this job -- too
> lumpy and awkward to carry around. Look at ball heads
> instead.
>



Agee with that a ball head would be better.


> I would echo what Russell said about getting a backpack
> that is designed to carry the tripod. My choice is the
> LowePro Rover Light:
> http://www.lowepro.com/pages/series/street/rovlight.htm
>
>


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      01-20-2004, 11:40 AM


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>
> I just did 5 weeks around the US, Canada, Caribbean, Hawaii using all
> various modes of transport and I would have to say that my 190/141 was used
> only a few times. It's not exactly the lightest tripod (far, far lighter
> than my other 058B though).... but it was still an awkward thing to lug
> around, so I didn't! It mostly stayed back in the room or in the boot.
>


Would agree with that!

There are trees, rocks, walls etc which all make good supports. Bean
bags and mini tripods which are all better than advertising camera gear
by taking a tripod. I don't even like taking a camera bag but thats only
used to pack the camera when on the aircraft or in the car. The less you
carry the better, less conspicuous as a tourist.

 
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      01-20-2004, 12:21 PM

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> AU Digital Photo Of The Day wrote:
>
>
> >
> >
> > I just did 5 weeks around the US, Canada, Caribbean, Hawaii using all
> > various modes of transport and I would have to say that my 190/141 was

used
> > only a few times. It's not exactly the lightest tripod (far, far

lighter
> > than my other 058B though).... but it was still an awkward thing to lug
> > around, so I didn't! It mostly stayed back in the room or in the boot.
> >

>
> Would agree with that!
>
> There are trees, rocks, walls etc which all make good supports. Bean
> bags and mini tripods which are all better than advertising camera gear
> by taking a tripod. I don't even like taking a camera bag but thats only
> used to pack the camera when on the aircraft or in the car. The less you
> carry the better, less conspicuous as a tourist.



I think it may be hard for hippy to be inconspicuous pointing the 10D with a
17-40L out the front!!!
Maybe the wristwatch camera is the go.


 
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      01-20-2004, 03:06 PM
"hippy" <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:

> I want a big, stable tripod for use locally but I'm also going on
> holiday for 4 weeks soon and need one that will hold a 10D but
> doesn't weigh a tonne.


A 058 only weights a ton But, with the strap on it, and set up
to fit it is quite easy to lug around. I used to cart it all over
the place with little trouble.

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      01-20-2004, 10:14 PM
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> There are trees, rocks, walls etc which all make good supports.


I did that in Japan and found that I was sometimes without suitable
support for shots I wanted.

> Bean bags and mini tripods which are all better than advertising

camera gear

Bean Bags!? Sorry, I've never seen a bean bag for a camera
How big are they? Are they specifically made for cameras? Cost?

What are good choices for mini tripods then? I assume you mean
the <1ft high ones? Will these hold a 10D and a 28-135mm USM?

> The less you carry the better, less conspicuous as a tourist.


True, and most of these posts seem to indicate that a big tripod
is not a good idea for travel. Looks like I'll save that purchase
for when I get back and look for beanbags? or a mini-pod?

hippy


 
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