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Chris H
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      11-28-2008, 02:24 PM


Nikon as sort of announced the D3X.

It wen up (and down again) on the Nikon US website

It has a 4 page spread in the Nikon Pro magazine

24.5 MP FX camera

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      11-28-2008, 03:25 PM

"Chris H" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> Nikon as sort of announced the D3X.
>
> It wen up (and down again) on the Nikon US website
>
> It has a 4 page spread in the Nikon Pro magazine
>
> 24.5 MP FX camera
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So who is the next mug to waste their money on something which they will
NEVER use to its full potential?

I've had 8mp images blown up and used on the back of double deckers with no
obvious loss of quality, remember such images are to be viewed at a distance
and not from 6 inches away.

Dont forget a computer upgrade would be necessary to view those massive RAW
files let alone edit and store them, and a mass of memory cards.

I'd say 10mp is more than enough for generally any applicable use and is
workable on older PC's too.

 
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      11-28-2008, 03:40 PM
In message <49300d4f$(E-Mail Removed)>, David
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>"Chris H" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:$pIZcLQb8$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>
>> Nikon as sort of announced the D3X.
>>
>> It wen up (and down again) on the Nikon US website
>>
>> It has a 4 page spread in the Nikon Pro magazine
>>
>> 24.5 MP FX camera

>So who is the next mug to waste their money on something which they
>will NEVER use to its full potential?


MF camera users? Also I know several people who will need this camera

>I've had 8mp images blown up and used on the back of double deckers
>with no obvious loss of quality, remember such images are to be viewed
>at a distance and not from 6 inches away.


Well I still use a 8MP camera.

>Dont forget a computer upgrade would be necessary to view those massive
>RAW files let alone edit and store them,


No it won't.... I have plenty of disk space.

>and a mass of memory cards.


Well I can remember when 256Mb was a large memory card....

>I'd say 10mp is more than enough for generally any applicable use


Yes. I agree. I have 12MP and can't see any need to go high for my
self.




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      11-28-2008, 04:00 PM
"Chris H" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> In message <49300d4f$(E-Mail Removed)>, David
> <nospam@please.?.invalid> writes
>>
>>"Chris H" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>news:$pIZcLQb8$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>
>>>
>>> Nikon as sort of announced the D3X.
>>>
>>> It wen up (and down again) on the Nikon US website
>>>
>>> It has a 4 page spread in the Nikon Pro magazine
>>>
>>> 24.5 MP FX camera

>>So who is the next mug to waste their money on something which they will
>>NEVER use to its full potential?

>
> MF camera users? Also I know several people who will need this camera
>
>>I've had 8mp images blown up and used on the back of double deckers with
>>no obvious loss of quality, remember such images are to be viewed at a
>>distance and not from 6 inches away.

>
> Well I still use a 8MP camera.
>
>>Dont forget a computer upgrade would be necessary to view those massive
>>RAW files let alone edit and store them,

>
> No it won't.... I have plenty of disk space.
>
>>and a mass of memory cards.

>
> Well I can remember when 256Mb was a large memory card....
>
>>I'd say 10mp is more than enough for generally any applicable use

>
> Yes. I agree. I have 12MP and can't see any need to go high for my self.
>



It wasn't that long ago when I told a salesman that I had no nee for a 5
megabyte HD.


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      11-28-2008, 04:20 PM
In message <4930161b$0$31148$(E-Mail Removed)>, Peter
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>It wasn't that long ago when I told a salesman that I had no nee for a
>5 megabyte HD.


There was a time when everything ran from a floppy.... power users had
two floppy drives.... "what's a hard disk?" :-)

Seriously, unless it becomes ridiculously cheap (eg like hard drives)
I will stay with my 6 and 12MP cameras. I don't really need any more.

However there are some serious pro's out there who will want the 24.5
MP. Also I can see the 24MPDSLR taking over from the MF Cameras


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      11-28-2008, 09:10 PM
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> In message <4930161b$0$31148$(E-Mail Removed)>, Peter
> <(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>>It wasn't that long ago when I told a salesman that I had no nee for a
>>5 megabyte HD.

>
> There was a time when everything ran from a floppy.... power users had
> two floppy drives.... "what's a hard disk?" :-)


<flashing back to my Apple ][e with two floppies and no HD>


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      11-29-2008, 01:36 PM

"Chris H" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> In message <49300d4f$(E-Mail Removed)>, David
> <nospam@please.?.invalid> writes
>>
>>"Chris H" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>news:$pIZcLQb8$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>
>>>
>>> Nikon as sort of announced the D3X.
>>>
>>> It wen up (and down again) on the Nikon US website
>>>
>>> It has a 4 page spread in the Nikon Pro magazine
>>>
>>> 24.5 MP FX camera

>>So who is the next mug to waste their money on something which they will
>>NEVER use to its full potential?

>
> MF camera users? Also I know several people who will need this camera
>
>>I've had 8mp images blown up and used on the back of double deckers with
>>no obvious loss of quality, remember such images are to be viewed at a
>>distance and not from 6 inches away.

>
> Well I still use a 8MP camera.
>
>>Dont forget a computer upgrade would be necessary to view those massive
>>RAW files let alone edit and store them,

>
> No it won't.... I have plenty of disk space.


Not necessarily storage space but a powerful multitasking processor and a
reasonably powerful fx card.

 
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      11-29-2008, 01:40 PM
> Seriously, unless it becomes ridiculously cheap (eg like hard drives) I
> will stay with my 6 and 12MP cameras. I don't really need any more.
>
> However there are some serious pro's out there who will want the 24.5 MP.
> Also I can see the 24MPDSLR taking over from the MF Cameras


Just looking at reviews of the sensor, it isnt anything much above the D3
sensor in terms of resolution or quality.

How many people out there think that their photos will become better just by
using a higher res sensor?

"I've got a Porshe so I must be a better driver than Hamilton."

 
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      11-29-2008, 01:42 PM

"shiva das" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> In article <4930161b$0$31148$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> "Peter" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>
>> It wasn't that long ago when I told a salesman that I had no nee for a 5
>> megabyte HD.

>
> Everything in perspective:
>
> IBM 5MB hard drive in 1956 U$50,000
>
> Apple 5MB hard drive in 1981 U$3,500
>
> After which they became downright cheap!


LOL good post, the trouble is that the 5mb hard drive in 1981 hold no more
info that the one in 1956. In terms of digital sensors I can see a cap on
resolution in favour for in camera processing / hdr and other cheats of the
like.

 
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      11-29-2008, 01:45 PM

"D Lirious" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> The Sony 24mp sensor will find its way into Nikon, Pentax and perhaps
> other OEM cameras, possibly Panasonic.
> Canon has only itself as a customer but is doing the same thing with its
> highest density sensor.
> The sensor that is now in the Nikon "full frame" cameras will hit cameras
> at APS-c sensor price points within a year.
> The cost of developing these things is such that it cannot be recouped
> until large volumes are sold.
> Many now see around 12mps as a practical limit for dLSR sensors that are
> going to retain the 35mm film camera format, which it appears that
> consumers will not let go of because of the massive backlog of lens
> investment and inability to adapt to new camera design paradigms.
> It is a real shame that amateur and professional photographers will not
> yet accept a camera that does not resemble a 1935 Exacta.
> Above 12mps and you exceed the resolving power of most lenses as well as
> face noise issues at moderately high ISOs that may have already hit the
> wall of what technology can do to change them because of the physical
> limits of sensor size.
> Even at 12mps sensor size most photographers seem blissfully unaware of
> the vast amount of data that is algorithmically stripped out when they are
> viewing the image on a computer monitor, when a print is made or any other
> practical use is made of the image data.
> The biggest laugher is CS4 sending 16 bit data to the printer drivers of
> OSx users.


Dead right, for 'most' users 6mp is absolutely more than enough. Heck i've
processed 1mp images up to beyond A4 with no obvious loss, unless viewing
under 6 inches but who does that anyway?

 
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