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patrick.oden@aggiemail.usu.edu
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      09-23-2008, 10:44 PM
I am a photojournalist shooting a Nikon D200. I notice my peers that
are shooting Canon seem to have less trouble getting good color. I am
looking to upgrade bodies, the D700 would be my first choice, but I
don't want another D200 experience. Has Nikon fixed the color issue or
is it just time to bite the bullet and switch to Canon?
 
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David Nebenzahl
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      09-23-2008, 11:25 PM
On 9/23/2008 3:44 PM (E-Mail Removed) spake thus:

> I am a photojournalist shooting a Nikon D200. I notice my peers that
> are shooting Canon seem to have less trouble getting good color. I am
> looking to upgrade bodies, the D700 would be my first choice, but I
> don't want another D200 experience. Has Nikon fixed the color issue or
> is it just time to bite the bullet and switch to Canon?


This post is off-topic for this newsgroup, rec.photo.equipment.35mm,
which is concerned with film cameras that use 35mm film, not digital
cameras that look like 35mm SLRs (DSLRs).

Since this post concerns such cameras, the appropriate place for it is
rec.photo.digital.slr. Please post there in the future.


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powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral.

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Scott W
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      09-23-2008, 11:28 PM
On Sep 23, 12:44*pm, patrick.o...@aggiemail.usu.edu wrote:
> I am a photojournalist shooting a Nikon D200. I notice my peers that
> are shooting Canon seem to have less trouble getting good color. I am
> looking to upgrade bodies, the D700 would be my first choice, but I
> don't want another D200 experience. Has Nikon fixed the color issue or
> is it just time to bite the bullet and switch to Canon?


Before you jump ships you might want to spend some time with a raw
converter and learn how to get the color you are looking for. You are
likely to find your peers have more skills at converting raw files
then better cameras.

Scott
 
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Stefan Patric
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      09-24-2008, 05:05 PM
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:44:57 -0700, patrick.oden wrote:

> I am a photojournalist shooting a Nikon D200. I notice my peers that are
> shooting Canon seem to have less trouble getting good color. I am
> looking to upgrade bodies, the D700 would be my first choice, but I
> don't want another D200 experience. Has Nikon fixed the color issue or
> is it just time to bite the bullet and switch to Canon?


First, you might get more response by posting in rec.photo.digital.slr-
systems, the appropriate group for your query.* But to answer your
question...

Before you abandon your Nikon and incur the great expense of switching to
another system, set your color space to AdobeRGB, if you can, to gain a
larger color range; adjust the in camera contrast and saturation to fit
shooting conditions; ditto for white balance. In other words, don't
leave everything set to "auto."

For example, I use a Nikon D50 with the SB-600 flash to supplement
ambient light for documenting architectural interiors and exteriors for
real estate agents, contractors, etc. I greatly improved the quality of
my images by changing the color space from sRGB, the default, to
AdobeRGB, and lowering the contrast to -2, the lowest setting. With
mixed lighting sources like one finds with interiors, I leave the white
balance set to auto, but for daylight exteriors with clear blue skies I
set it to "Flash," otherwise, the images are decidedly blue. For "night"
lit interiors mostly by incandescent lights, I use the "incandescent" or
"tungsten" settings, and put an 85B "gel" filter over the flash for color
balanced fill.

With my few adjustments, my Nikon D50 images compare favorably--color and
contrast-wise--with a friend's Canon 5D, although his images have less
noise. He was actually surprised that my D50 did so well under the same
shooting conditions.

So, before you switch, run some tests.

Stef


*FWIW: rec.photo.equipment.35mm was originally established 20+ years ago
or so, long before digital photography came to prominence, for ANY still
camera (not just SLRs) that used 35mm film, hence the name. Although,
over the months this year, it has been slowly commandeered by digital
users. Why the need to, I don't know. There are, after all, 3 or 4
groups dedicated specifically to digital systems.
 
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Pete D
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      09-25-2008, 12:02 PM


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> Stef
>
>
> *FWIW: rec.photo.equipment.35mm was originally established 20+ years ago
> or so, long before digital photography came to prominence, for ANY still
> camera (not just SLRs) that used 35mm film, hence the name. Although,
> over the months this year, it has been slowly commandeered by digital
> users. Why the need to, I don't know. There are, after all, 3 or 4
> groups dedicated specifically to digital systems.


Isn't it obvious, David N has attacked so many people and they got their
backs up, if he had simply never said anything many would have just never
bothered and would have gone away. So before you blame everyone else have a
few words with the broken record himself. It is not what he has said in this
group so much, it is because he has multi-crossposted to just about every
photo group he can every chance he gets, the cure is far worse than the
disease.

Cheers.

Pete


 
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      09-25-2008, 01:15 PM
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> I am a photojournalist shooting a Nikon D200. I notice my peers that
> are shooting Canon seem to have less trouble getting good color. I am
> looking to upgrade bodies, the D700 would be my first choice, but I
> don't want another D200 experience. Has Nikon fixed the color issue or
> is it just time to bite the bullet and switch to Canon?



You're not a photo journalist. No photo journalist would have such poor
command of English or ask such a pathetically naive question.

Why bother with the BS? Just ask a question if you wish, but do it without
pretense.

Auntie
 
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      09-25-2008, 01:32 PM
Auntie Establishment wrote,on my timestamp of 25/09/2008 11:15 PM:
> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>> I am a photojournalist shooting a Nikon D200. I notice my peers that
>> are shooting Canon seem to have less trouble getting good color. I am
>> looking to upgrade bodies, the D700 would be my first choice, but I
>> don't want another D200 experience. Has Nikon fixed the color issue or
>> is it just time to bite the bullet and switch to Canon?

>
>
> You're not a photo journalist. No photo journalist would have such poor
> command of English or ask such a pathetically naive question.
>
> Why bother with the BS? Just ask a question if you wish, but do it
> without pretense.
>
> Auntie



pssst:
it's called a Canon "shill".
Very common.
 
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Noons
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      09-25-2008, 01:38 PM
Pete D wrote,on my timestamp of 25/09/2008 10:02 PM:

>> *FWIW: rec.photo.equipment.35mm was originally established 20+ years ago
>> or so, long before digital photography came to prominence, for ANY still
>> camera (not just SLRs) that used 35mm film, hence the name. Although,
>> over the months this year, it has been slowly commandeered by digital
>> users. Why the need to, I don't know. There are, after all, 3 or 4
>> groups dedicated specifically to digital systems.

>
> Isn't it obvious, David N has attacked so many people and they got their
> backs up, if he had simply never said anything many would have just never
> bothered and would have gone away.


That is a load of bullshit. First of all, it's not just David.
Second, the digital crap in here is promoted SOLELY by
a group of crap "photographers" from pbase who do this all
the time: find a low volume newsgroup and take it over
with their totally off-topic rubbish.

Mostly to shill for pbase, but also for their own little
digital camera concerns.
It's called a scam.
But of course you'll never give it the proper name, preferring
instead the rubbish about "David-the-bad-guy".

> So before you blame everyone else have a
> few words with the broken record himself.


He heard him. That is why he replied.
And demonstrating the point that you and
your other pack of digital-heads have
no place here.

> It is not what he has said in this
> group so much, it is because he has multi-crossposted to just about every
> photo group he can every chance he gets, the cure is far worse than the
> disease.


He only "multi-crossposts" what is already
"multi-crossposted", usually by your band of
misfits.

 
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tony cooper
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      09-25-2008, 02:01 PM
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:15:51 +1000, Auntie Establishment
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>> I am a photojournalist shooting a Nikon D200. I notice my peers that
>> are shooting Canon seem to have less trouble getting good color. I am
>> looking to upgrade bodies, the D700 would be my first choice, but I
>> don't want another D200 experience. Has Nikon fixed the color issue or
>> is it just time to bite the bullet and switch to Canon?

>
>
>You're not a photo journalist. No photo journalist would have such poor
>command of English or ask such a pathetically naive question.
>

I see one comma splice. Where is the "poor command of English"?

Don't tell me it's the "that" instead of a "who", 'cause "that" ain't
wrong.

--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
 
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      09-25-2008, 04:08 PM
On Sep 25, 9:38*am, Noons <wizofo...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> First of all, it's not just David.
> Second, the digital crap in here is promoted SOLELY by
> a group of crap "photographers" from pbase who do this all
> the time: find a low volume newsgroup and take it over
> with their totally off-topic rubbish.
>
> Mostly to shill for pbase, but also for their own little
> digital camera concerns.
> It's called a scam.


Noons, your brain is due for a firmware upgrade. Maybe you can send
it to Canon?

OK folks, you heard it. ALL of you people talking about digital are
just PBase shills.
Busted! Guess we'll have to go find nother group to infiltrate now.



 
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