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Check out the preview on DP Review's site; Panny's G1 is the first EVIL cam
to be introduced, and according to the preview, it has a much better EVF
than we've seen (until now). Looks promising.

"measekite" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:00:16 -0700, aniramca wrote:
>
>> On Sep 12, 9:12 am, Böwser <b0w...@h0me.c0m> wrote:
>>> Check out the preview on DP Review's site; Panny's G1 is the first EVIL
>>> cam
>>> to be introduced, and according to the preview, it has a much better EVF
>>> than we've seen (until now). Looks promising.
>>
>> Well... this is an interesting news. Thanks for the info.
>>
>> I checked the size of G1 is 124mmx84mmx45mm. This is smaller than
>> Nikon D40 (which is considered to be small) at 124mmx94mmx64mm.
>>
>> Perhaps when Olympus introduces their first DSLR with micro 4/3, it
>> will be much smaller than the Panasonic.
>> I cannot wait to feel the camera in hand. Will the price be
>> competitive?
>>
>> Will image quality be better than high end P&S cameras (Canon G7,
>> etc)?
>
> I think that will depend on the sensor size which transcends to pixel size
> when comparing same mp cameras.

It's a 4/3 sensor, which is significantly larger than any P&S camera, save
for the Sigma DP1. I expect image quality should at least equal, or exceed
other 4/3 cameras, like the Oly 520 or Panasonic L10. Compared to the small
sensor cameras, like the G9, it should offer quite the improvement. If this
camera is as good as it looks, the G9 will find it's way to ebay.

Böwser wrote:
>
> "measekite" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:00:16 -0700, aniramca wrote:
>>
>>> On Sep 12, 9:12 am, Böwser <b0w...@h0me.c0m> wrote:
>>>> Check out the preview on DP Review's site; Panny's G1 is the first
>>>> EVIL cam
>>>> to be introduced, and according to the preview, it has a much better
>>>> EVF
>>>> than we've seen (until now). Looks promising.
>>>
>>> Well... this is an interesting news. Thanks for the info.
>>>
>>> I checked the size of G1 is 124mmx84mmx45mm. This is smaller than
>>> Nikon D40 (which is considered to be small) at 124mmx94mmx64mm.
>>>
>>> Perhaps when Olympus introduces their first DSLR with micro 4/3, it
>>> will be much smaller than the Panasonic.
>>> I cannot wait to feel the camera in hand. Will the price be
>>> competitive?
>>>
>>> Will image quality be better than high end P&S cameras (Canon G7,
>>> etc)?
>>
>> I think that will depend on the sensor size which transcends to pixel
>> size
>> when comparing same mp cameras.
>
> It's a 4/3 sensor, which is significantly larger than any P&S camera,
> save for the Sigma DP1. I expect image quality should at least equal, or
> exceed other 4/3 cameras, like the Oly 520 or Panasonic L10. Compared to
> the small sensor cameras, like the G9, it should offer quite the
> improvement. If this camera is as good as it looks, the G9 will find
> it's way to ebay.

The Panasonic G1 does have a FourThirds (18mm x 13.5mm) sized sensor, so
the image quality should be on par with other FourThirds cameras.
I hope that it's contrast detection AF system is fast and accurate with
a variety of lenses and that the shot-to-shot time is quick.
But, until a full review has been carried out by the dpreview.com team,
most of what we're discussing is pure speculation.
Not that it isn't fun to speculate. :-)

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<48cbe339$0$31977$(E-Mail Removed)>, dj_nme
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> The Panasonic G1 does have a FourThirds (18mm x 13.5mm) sized sensor, so
> the image quality should be on par with other FourThirds cameras.
> I hope that it's contrast detection AF system is fast and accurate with
> a variety of lenses and that the shot-to-shot time is quick.

based on the sample video at dpreview, its contrast focus is rather
fast.

measekite wrote:
<snip>
>> The Panasonic G1 does have a FourThirds (18mm x 13.5mm) sized sensor, so
>> the image quality should be on par with other FourThirds cameras.
>> I hope that it's contrast detection AF system is fast and accurate with
>> a variety of lenses and that the shot-to-shot time is quick.
>> But, until a full review has been carried out by the dpreview.com team,
>> most of what we're discussing is pure speculation.
>> Not that it isn't fun to speculate. :-)
>
> So how does that compare to image results from cameras With an APC sensor
> like the Canon 450D?

How should I know?
There hasn't been an in-depth review done yet, which should have a
comparison of output pictures and noise profiles.
Nor any sample pictures available from the DMC G1 which could then be
compared with pictures from the EOS 450D, yet.
We will all just have to wait and see.

nospam wrote:
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> <48cbe339$0$31977$(E-Mail Removed)>, dj_nme
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> The Panasonic G1 does have a FourThirds (18mm x 13.5mm) sized sensor, so
>> the image quality should be on par with other FourThirds cameras.
>> I hope that it's contrast detection AF system is fast and accurate with
>> a variety of lenses and that the shot-to-shot time is quick.
>
> based on the sample video at dpreview, its contrast focus is rather
> fast.

That does look very promising, although it did seem to be done under
relatively ideal conditions.
I'm guessing that this would also be as fast with a similar f-stop and
focus-motor design in the lens, other lenses in the FourThirds line-up
may cause it to hunt under the same conditions.
The split between the Olympus sensor shift versus OIS from Panasonic for
for cancelling out camera-shake hopefully doesn't indicate further
incompatibilities.
Only time will tell.

"Böwser" <(E-Mail Removed)0m> wrote in message news:8Nuyk.3$pp3.0@trnddc06...
> Check out the preview on DP Review's site; Panny's G1 is the first EVIL
> cam to be introduced, and according to the preview, it has a much better
> EVF than we've seen (until now). Looks promising.

Would this type of camera (interchangeable lense, large sensor, no mirror)
replace DSLR, or does DSLR still have some advantages?

"measekite" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 01:58:44 +1000, dj_nme wrote:
>
>> Böwser wrote:
>>>
>>> "measekite" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:tUByk.175$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:00:16 -0700, aniramca wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 12, 9:12 am, Böwser <b0w...@h0me.c0m> wrote:
>>>>>> Check out the preview on DP Review's site; Panny's G1 is the first
>>>>>> EVIL cam
>>>>>> to be introduced, and according to the preview, it has a much better
>>>>>> EVF
>>>>>> than we've seen (until now). Looks promising.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well... this is an interesting news. Thanks for the info.
>>>>>
>>>>> I checked the size of G1 is 124mmx84mmx45mm. This is smaller than
>>>>> Nikon D40 (which is considered to be small) at 124mmx94mmx64mm.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps when Olympus introduces their first DSLR with micro 4/3, it
>>>>> will be much smaller than the Panasonic.
>>>>> I cannot wait to feel the camera in hand. Will the price be
>>>>> competitive?
>>>>>
>>>>> Will image quality be better than high end P&S cameras (Canon G7,
>>>>> etc)?
>>>>
>>>> I think that will depend on the sensor size which transcends to pixel
>>>> size
>>>> when comparing same mp cameras.
>>>
>>> It's a 4/3 sensor, which is significantly larger than any P&S camera,
>>> save for the Sigma DP1. I expect image quality should at least equal, or
>>> exceed other 4/3 cameras, like the Oly 520 or Panasonic L10. Compared to
>>> the small sensor cameras, like the G9, it should offer quite the
>>> improvement. If this camera is as good as it looks, the G9 will find
>>> it's way to ebay.
>>
>> The Panasonic G1 does have a FourThirds (18mm x 13.5mm) sized sensor, so
>> the image quality should be on par with other FourThirds cameras.
>> I hope that it's contrast detection AF system is fast and accurate with
>> a variety of lenses and that the shot-to-shot time is quick.
>> But, until a full review has been carried out by the dpreview.com team,
>> most of what we're discussing is pure speculation.
>> Not that it isn't fun to speculate. :-)
>
> So how does that compare to image results from cameras With an APC sensor
> like the Canon 450D?

Check DP Review for comparisons between any of the 4/3 SLRs and the Rebels,
and you'll get an idea, but not a final answer since this is a new sensor.