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Net Doe
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      01-12-2008, 03:57 PM
I seem to be having a hell of a time searching paper profiles for my
printer online except when printer and paper are of course from the
same manufacturer. Is this common or am I just daft?


 
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Mike G.
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      01-12-2008, 04:46 PM
Net Doe wrote:
> I seem to be having a hell of a time searching paper profiles for my
> printer online except when printer and paper are of course from the
> same manufacturer. Is this common or am I just daft?
>
>

The printer manufacturers won't generally provide profiles for 'other'
papers. There are just too many different paper makers. And what's in
it for them?

Your best bet is to rely on the paper manufacturers' sites. Many don't
provide profiles for 'popular' printers, but some do. Last I looked
(pretty long ago), Red River had a good selection of profiles for their
papers, which, btw, have generally gotten very good reviews.
 
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      01-12-2008, 05:40 PM
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 08:46:37 -0800, in rec.photo.digital.slr-systems "Mike
G." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Net Doe wrote:
>> I seem to be having a hell of a time searching paper profiles for my
>> printer online except when printer and paper are of course from the
>> same manufacturer. Is this common or am I just daft?
>>
>>

>The printer manufacturers won't generally provide profiles for 'other'
>papers. There are just too many different paper makers. And what's in
>it for them?
>
>Your best bet is to rely on the paper manufacturers' sites. Many don't
>provide profiles for 'popular' printers, but some do. Last I looked
>(pretty long ago), Red River had a good selection of profiles for their
>papers, which, btw, have generally gotten very good reviews.


Same for Ilford.
 
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Paul Furman
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      01-12-2008, 05:50 PM
Mike G. wrote:
> Net Doe wrote:
>> I seem to be having a hell of a time searching paper profiles for my
>> printer online except when printer and paper are of course from the
>> same manufacturer. Is this common or am I just daft?
>>
>>

> The printer manufacturers won't generally provide profiles for 'other'
> papers. There are just too many different paper makers. And what's in
> it for them?
>
> Your best bet is to rely on the paper manufacturers' sites. Many don't
> provide profiles for 'popular' printers, but some do. Last I looked
> (pretty long ago), Red River had a good selection of profiles for their
> papers, which, btw, have generally gotten very good reviews.


I use some Moab watercolor paper & Moab has profiles for my Epson R1800.
It's a safe bet HP won't provide Epson profiles though.
 
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Ray Paseur
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      01-12-2008, 07:09 PM
"Mike G." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> Net Doe wrote:
>> I seem to be having a hell of a time searching paper profiles for my
>> printer online except when printer and paper are of course from the
>> same manufacturer. Is this common or am I just daft?
>>
>>

> The printer manufacturers won't generally provide profiles for 'other'
> papers. There are just too many different paper makers. And what's in
> it for them?
>
> Your best bet is to rely on the paper manufacturers' sites. Many don't
> provide profiles for 'popular' printers, but some do. Last I looked
> (pretty long ago), Red River had a good selection of profiles for their
> papers, which, btw, have generally gotten very good reviews.


Same for Crane.
 
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flambe
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      01-13-2008, 02:49 AM
First see how a paper prints with the profile the manufacturer provides for
its own paper of the same surface type.
I may be blind but Canon premium glossy seems to print the same for me on my
Epson 1800 as Epson premium glossy using the Epson premium glossy profile.
Hence if Canon paper is on sale, as it often is, I stock up.
If the manufacturer does not provide profiles you have several options.
Trial and error to see what works for you, which is not as difficult as it
sounds.
The Monaco Optixx has a program, using your scanner as an intermediary,
which provides "custom" profiles. For Epson printers I did not find this
very useful but in my experience it created better profiles than Canon
provided for its own papers and printers.
Buy a device to do custom calibrations: minimum $500 for the Spyder device.
Use a custom calibration service: around $20 a pop.
You should really love a paper surface that is not made by your printer
manufacturer to justify the expense of custom profiles, whether you make
them or send them out.
Personally I find use of an LCD monitor to be the problem, no matter how
calibrated, more than any paper profile.


 
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Net Doe
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      01-13-2008, 09:11 PM
Thanks to ALL who responded.

"flambe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> First see how a paper prints with the profile the manufacturer provides
> for its own paper of the same surface type.
> I may be blind but Canon premium glossy seems to print the same for me on
> my Epson 1800 as Epson premium glossy using the Epson premium glossy
> profile. Hence if Canon paper is on sale, as it often is, I stock up.
> If the manufacturer does not provide profiles you have several options.
> Trial and error to see what works for you, which is not as difficult as it
> sounds.
> The Monaco Optixx has a program, using your scanner as an intermediary,
> which provides "custom" profiles. For Epson printers I did not find this
> very useful but in my experience it created better profiles than Canon
> provided for its own papers and printers.
> Buy a device to do custom calibrations: minimum $500 for the Spyder
> device.
> Use a custom calibration service: around $20 a pop.
> You should really love a paper surface that is not made by your printer
> manufacturer to justify the expense of custom profiles, whether you make
> them or send them out.
> Personally I find use of an LCD monitor to be the problem, no matter how
> calibrated, more than any paper profile.
>



 
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