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RichA wrote:

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What do you expect, it's a Nikkor? Classic Nikkors are such a great
investment that they yield better returns and are safer than the stock
market.




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"Rita Berkowitz" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> What do you expect, it's a Nikkor? Classic Nikkors are such a great
> investment that they yield better returns and are safer than the stock
> market.

I would be quite surprised if the seller gets his asking price for
this beast. $6000-$8000 would be a more reasonable estimate, at which
"investing" in this lens new wouldn't have kept up with inflation.

"Investing" in more common classic Nikkors was almost as good a way
to lose money as penny stocks. Adjusted for inflation, a lens like
the 80-200mm f/4 AI-S sells for about 1/8th of it's original street
price.

Of course, if you actually want to take _photographs_ today, the
Sigma 12-24mm yields superior results at about 1/20th of the asking
price.

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Michael Benveniste wrote:

> "Rita Berkowitz" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> What do you expect, it's a Nikkor? Classic Nikkors are such a great
>> investment that they yield better returns and are safer than the
>> stock market.
>
> I would be quite surprised if the seller gets his asking price for
> this beast. $6000-$8000 would be a more reasonable estimate, at which
> "investing" in this lens new wouldn't have kept up with inflation.

I know he's not going to sell it for that price or any reasonable price for
that matter since he's got too many things going against him. He's not from
a country that's known for shipping merchandise once it is paid for. And the
lens isn't in a condition that would warrant that price. He does have the
luxury of having one of the very few samples that are available for sale. I
wouldn't but it unless I got it for $1,500.

> "Investing" in more common classic Nikkors was almost as good a way
> to lose money as penny stocks. Adjusted for inflation, a lens like
> the 80-200mm f/4 AI-S sells for about 1/8th of it's original street
> price.

I see you're not a risk taker? I played a few penny stocks that cashed out
handsomely. Just like stocks, Nikkors need to be bought after using proper
research to formulate the optimal buying price.

> Of course, if you actually want to take _photographs_ today, the
> Sigma 12-24mm yields superior results at about 1/20th of the asking
> price.

Possible, but who really wants a Sigma? Have you ever tried selling a
Sigma? Resale value is pure crap.




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Rita Berkowitz <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Michael Benveniste wrote:

>> "Rita Berkowitz" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>> What do you expect, it's a Nikkor? Classic Nikkors are such a great
>>> investment that they yield better returns and are safer than the
>>> stock market.
>>
>> I would be quite surprised if the seller gets his asking price for
>> this beast. $6000-$8000 would be a more reasonable estimate, at which
>> "investing" in this lens new wouldn't have kept up with inflation.

>I know he's not going to sell it for that price or any reasonable price for
>that matter since he's got too many things going against him. He's not from
>a country that's known for shipping merchandise once it is paid for. And the
>lens isn't in a condition that would warrant that price. He does have the
>luxury of having one of the very few samples that are available for sale. I
>wouldn't but it unless I got it for $1,500.

>> "Investing" in more common classic Nikkors was almost as good a way
>> to lose money as penny stocks. Adjusted for inflation, a lens like
>> the 80-200mm f/4 AI-S sells for about 1/8th of it's original street
>> price.

>I see you're not a risk taker? I played a few penny stocks that cashed out
>handsomely. Just like stocks, Nikkors need to be bought after using proper
>research to formulate the optimal buying price.

>> Of course, if you actually want to take _photographs_ today, the
>> Sigma 12-24mm yields superior results at about 1/20th of the asking
>> price.

>Possible, but who really wants a Sigma? Have you ever tried selling a
>Sigma? Resale value is pure crap.

If you can't sell it you could use it to take pictures!



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"Paul J Gans" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Rita Berkowitz <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>Michael Benveniste wrote:
>
>>> "Rita Berkowitz" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What do you expect, it's a Nikkor? Classic Nikkors are such a great
>>>> investment that they yield better returns and are safer than the
>>>> stock market.
>>>
>>> I would be quite surprised if the seller gets his asking price for
>>> this beast. $6000-$8000 would be a more reasonable estimate, at which
>>> "investing" in this lens new wouldn't have kept up with inflation.
>
>>I know he's not going to sell it for that price or any reasonable price
>>for
>>that matter since he's got too many things going against him. He's not
>>from
>>a country that's known for shipping merchandise once it is paid for. And
>>the
>>lens isn't in a condition that would warrant that price. He does have the
>>luxury of having one of the very few samples that are available for sale.
>>I
>>wouldn't but it unless I got it for $1,500.
>
>>> "Investing" in more common classic Nikkors was almost as good a way
>>> to lose money as penny stocks. Adjusted for inflation, a lens like
>>> the 80-200mm f/4 AI-S sells for about 1/8th of it's original street
>>> price.
>
>>I see you're not a risk taker? I played a few penny stocks that cashed
>>out
>>handsomely. Just like stocks, Nikkors need to be bought after using
>>proper
>>research to formulate the optimal buying price.
>
>>> Of course, if you actually want to take _photographs_ today, the
>>> Sigma 12-24mm yields superior results at about 1/20th of the asking
>>> price.
>
>>Possible, but who really wants a Sigma? Have you ever tried selling a
>>Sigma? Resale value is pure crap.
>
> If you can't sell it you could use it to take pictures!
>
>

Most of the stuff on here is from people who have forgotten that camera's
and lenses are for taking photo's and that something's only worth what
someone will pay for it!!

I'd rather buy a sigma and use it till it falls apart, than a nikkor and
fear taking it out of the house because its too valuable!

LL



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"Rita Berkowitz" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> I see you're not a risk taker? I played a few penny stocks that cashed
> out
> handsomely.

Quite the contrary. I just prefer that when I take a risk, I know
how badly the game is rigged against me. With most "pinkies" and
many "off-board" stocks, "proper research" is impossible.

In fact, I do own 50 shares of a stock trading at 69 cents a share.
It was not, alas, a penny stock when I bought it.

There are a few low-volume Nikkors which will appreciate over
the years, and with any type of item you may find an occasional
bargain. But in general, classic Nikkors have been a lousy
investment for the last decade. I doubt that will ever change.

>> Of course, if you actually want to take _photographs_ today, the
>> Sigma 12-24mm yields superior results at about 1/20th of the asking
>> price.
>
> Possible, but who really wants a Sigma?

Someone who wants to shoot film or in FX format at 12 or 13mm?

> Have you ever tried selling a Sigma? Resale value is pure crap.

As long as I get sufficient value out of my gear, I don't really care
about resale value. I've never sold a Sigma lens, but I did sell
two Tokina zooms after using each for more than a decade. Each lost about
65% of its nominal value, which matches the performance of most 80's
Zoom-Nikkors.

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"loopy livernose" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message news:4880d9f1$0$8072$(E-Mail Removed).. .
>
> "Paul J Gans" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:g5qfm0$3n1$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Rita Berkowitz <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>Michael Benveniste wrote:
>>
>>>> "Rita Berkowitz" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What do you expect, it's a Nikkor? Classic Nikkors are such a
>>>>> great
>>>>> investment that they yield better returns and are safer than the
>>>>> stock market.
>>>>
>>>> I would be quite surprised if the seller gets his asking price
>>>> for
>>>> this beast. $6000-$8000 would be a more reasonable estimate, at
>>>> which
>>>> "investing" in this lens new wouldn't have kept up with
>>>> inflation.
>>
>>>I know he's not going to sell it for that price or any reasonable
>>>price for
>>>that matter since he's got too many things going against him. He's
>>>not from
>>>a country that's known for shipping merchandise once it is paid
>>>for. And the
>>>lens isn't in a condition that would warrant that price. He does
>>>have the
>>>luxury of having one of the very few samples that are available for
>>>sale. I
>>>wouldn't but it unless I got it for $1,500.
>>
>>>> "Investing" in more common classic Nikkors was almost as good a
>>>> way
>>>> to lose money as penny stocks. Adjusted for inflation, a lens
>>>> like
>>>> the 80-200mm f/4 AI-S sells for about 1/8th of it's original
>>>> street
>>>> price.
>>
>>>I see you're not a risk taker? I played a few penny stocks that
>>>cashed out
>>>handsomely. Just like stocks, Nikkors need to be bought after
>>>using proper
>>>research to formulate the optimal buying price.
>>
>>>> Of course, if you actually want to take _photographs_ today, the
>>>> Sigma 12-24mm yields superior results at about 1/20th of the
>>>> asking
>>>> price.
>>
>>>Possible, but who really wants a Sigma? Have you ever tried
>>>selling a
>>>Sigma? Resale value is pure crap.
>>
>> If you can't sell it you could use it to take pictures!
>>
>>
>
> Most of the stuff on here is from people who have forgotten that
> camera's and lenses are for taking photo's and that something's only
> worth what someone will pay for it!!
>
> I'd rather buy a sigma and use it till it falls apart, than a nikkor
> and fear taking it out of the house because its too valuable!
>
> LL

You may not believe it but people actually use their Nikkors outside
the house.
Perhaps by the millions.





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loopy livernose <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>"Paul J Gans" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:g5qfm0$3n1$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Rita Berkowitz <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>Michael Benveniste wrote:
>>
>>>> "Rita Berkowitz" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What do you expect, it's a Nikkor? Classic Nikkors are such a great
>>>>> investment that they yield better returns and are safer than the
>>>>> stock market.
>>>>
>>>> I would be quite surprised if the seller gets his asking price for
>>>> this beast. $6000-$8000 would be a more reasonable estimate, at which
>>>> "investing" in this lens new wouldn't have kept up with inflation.
>>
>>>I know he's not going to sell it for that price or any reasonable price
>>>for
>>>that matter since he's got too many things going against him. He's not
>>>from
>>>a country that's known for shipping merchandise once it is paid for. And
>>>the
>>>lens isn't in a condition that would warrant that price. He does have the
>>>luxury of having one of the very few samples that are available for sale.
>>>I
>>>wouldn't but it unless I got it for $1,500.
>>
>>>> "Investing" in more common classic Nikkors was almost as good a way
>>>> to lose money as penny stocks. Adjusted for inflation, a lens like
>>>> the 80-200mm f/4 AI-S sells for about 1/8th of it's original street
>>>> price.
>>
>>>I see you're not a risk taker? I played a few penny stocks that cashed
>>>out
>>>handsomely. Just like stocks, Nikkors need to be bought after using
>>>proper
>>>research to formulate the optimal buying price.
>>
>>>> Of course, if you actually want to take _photographs_ today, the
>>>> Sigma 12-24mm yields superior results at about 1/20th of the asking
>>>> price.
>>
>>>Possible, but who really wants a Sigma? Have you ever tried selling a
>>>Sigma? Resale value is pure crap.
>>
>> If you can't sell it you could use it to take pictures!
>>
>>

>Most of the stuff on here is from people who have forgotten that camera's
>and lenses are for taking photo's and that something's only worth what
>someone will pay for it!!

>I'd rather buy a sigma and use it till it falls apart, than a nikkor and
>fear taking it out of the house because its too valuable!

Yup. Most of us regard photography as a means to producing
pictures, not as an investment or a sales opportunity.

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"Paul J Gans" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> Yup. Most of us regard photography as a means to producing
> pictures, not as an investment or a sales opportunity.
>
> --
> --- Paul J. Gans


Lots of people think of houses as a place to live, while others see them as
an investment and way to make money.