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Problems running Fontographer 4.1 on XP?

Loads up, then crashes out displaying the following message:

Could not initialize the program, because there is not enough memory
available to run.
Code = -30202

Anyone had similar problems?

On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 23:40:16 +0000 (UTC), "MB"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Problems running Fontographer 4.1 on XP?
>
>Loads up, then crashes out displaying the following message:
>
>Could not initialize the program, because there is not enough memory
>available to run.
>Code = -30202
>
>Anyone had similar problems?
>
>
No, but I stopped using it at Win2k. it hasn't (and won't be)
updated. it's effectively dead software now. Macormedia have moved
into other areas and print isn't very profitable any more.

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Hecate
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> Anyone had similar problems?

It's a common bug. Here is a link to some old usenet discussions:

http://tinyurl.com/u1vp


-Jan

MB <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote in message news:boem4v$l19$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Problems running Fontographer 4.1 on XP?
>
> Loads up, then crashes out displaying the following message:
> Could not initialize the program, because there is not enough memory
> available to run.
> Code = -30202

If you have any more than 512MB of RAM installed on a computer Fontographer
will lose its mind and display that message. There are some workarounds
(listed in the technical notes section at the Macromedia website). Many do
not work on a majority of machines.

This is issue is just one of the reasons why I have for keeping an old
computer alive and running.

Bobby Henderson

Hecate <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> No, but I stopped using it at Win2k. it hasn't (and won't be)
> updated. it's effectively dead software now. Macormedia have moved
> into other areas and print isn't very profitable any more.


Macromedia is setting themselves up like a bowling pin in putting all their
emphasis on webby crap. Sure, they're moving lots of copies of
DreamweaverMX and FlashMX. But how long will that last. Many professional
graphics artists are quickly abandoning the web thing since there is little
to no money in it. That field is overrun by many with little to no talent
in terms of graphic design (which is the primary reason why the majority of
web sites look like garbage). Those with no talent are divided between two
types of people, amateurs who think they are artists because they can point
and click in Dreamweaver and computer programmers who are more
left-side-of-the-brain types whose talents don't lend much to creativity.

So, a lot of professional graphic artists who can make great looking artwork
have gone back to doing print work or moving into other fields like 3D,
video graphics and film. I see Macromedia doing NOTHING in terms of
supporting any of that.

At least Adobe has sense enough to stay somewhat diversified. Apps like
Illustrator and Photoshop can lend themselves to lots of different uses.
InDesign is finally turning into the Quark Killer it was meant to be. Adobe
may not have a professional level 3D app in its suite of applications. But
apps like Illustrator, Photoshop and After Effects do much to extend the
power of pro-level 3D apps like Cinema4D, Studio3D Max, Maya and Lightwave.

On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:44:20 -0600, "Bob" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>Hecate <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed).. .
>> No, but I stopped using it at Win2k. it hasn't (and won't be)
>> updated. it's effectively dead software now. Macormedia have moved
>> into other areas and print isn't very profitable any more.
>
>
>Macromedia is setting themselves up like a bowling pin in putting all their
>emphasis on webby crap. Sure, they're moving lots of copies of
>DreamweaverMX and FlashMX. But how long will that last. Many professional
>graphics artists are quickly abandoning the web thing since there is little
>to no money in it. That field is overrun by many with little to no talent
>in terms of graphic design (which is the primary reason why the majority of
>web sites look like garbage). Those with no talent are divided between two
>types of people, amateurs who think they are artists because they can point
>and click in Dreamweaver and computer programmers who are more
>left-side-of-the-brain types whose talents don't lend much to creativity.

>So, a lot of professional graphic artists who can make great looking artwork
>have gone back to doing print work or moving into other fields like 3D,
>video graphics and film. I see Macromedia doing NOTHING in terms of
>supporting any of that.

I agree to an extent, though I think you'll find the web is becoming
more, rather than less, important. And Macromedia are trying to do
for the web what MS did for the Operating System, and to large extent,
succeeding.

>At least Adobe has sense enough to stay somewhat diversified. Apps like
>Illustrator and Photoshop can lend themselves to lots of different uses.
>InDesign is finally turning into the Quark Killer it was meant to be. Adobe
>may not have a professional level 3D app in its suite of applications. But
>apps like Illustrator, Photoshop and After Effects do much to extend the
>power of pro-level 3D apps like Cinema4D, Studio3D Max, Maya and Lightwave.
>
Yes, they have, but their problem is that they may end up doing
nothing quite as well as they should. IR as a web app is just crap and
activation is going to put a lot of individual designers off (i.e
professionals who can't get the business copies of the new suites
because they only require one copy). InDesign is excellent and
already much easier to use than Quark, and Photoshop is, Photoshop ;-)
But I won't be upgrading it past v.7 unless I have absolutely no
choice. Illustrator, unless the new version is better has fallen
behind both Freehand and Corel Draw, not to mention Canvas. But, I
won't be upgrading because...

So, we live in interesting times ;-)

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Hecate
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Unless there's a reason you need to use Fontographer, switch to Fontlab.
It's actually being updated regularly. Has Opentype support too.


"MB" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:boem4v$l19$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Problems running Fontographer 4.1 on XP?
>
> Loads up, then crashes out displaying the following message:
>
> Could not initialize the program, because there is not enough memory
> available to run.
> Code = -30202
>
> Anyone had similar problems?
>
>
>
>

"Hecate" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...

> >So, a lot of professional graphic artists who can make great looking
artwork
> >have gone back to doing print work or moving into other fields like 3D,
> >video graphics and film. I see Macromedia doing NOTHING in terms of
> >supporting any of that.
>
> I agree to an extent, though I think you'll find the web is becoming
> more, rather than less, important. And Macromedia are trying to do
> for the web what MS did for the Operating System, and to large extent,
> succeeding.

Sure, the web is important and will become more important in the future.
Still, the point I made is valid. Many graphics people will starve trying
to make any money in web design. All the amateurs have driven the pay
scales way down. On the other end you have all the non-creative programmers
who think they are artists for the same reason the amateurs pass themselves
off as artists: they think being able to use an app qualifies one as an
artist. So in the end great looking websites are clearly in the minority.
Most of it is just depressing looking clutter.

I really have to come down hard on all these technical schools and even some
colleges who provide "art education" yet only teach computer apps. The
graphical landscape across America is a total mess because of this. To put
it in "analog" terms the equivalent would be someone deciding, "I'm going to
be a painter" and he goes to the art supply store buys an oil paint set and
thinks that because he now has the equipment he is in the same league as
Rembrandt, but offers his services for less.

On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 20:06:17 GMT, "Bob" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>"Hecate" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed).. .
>
>> >So, a lot of professional graphic artists who can make great looking
>artwork
>> >have gone back to doing print work or moving into other fields like 3D,
>> >video graphics and film. I see Macromedia doing NOTHING in terms of
>> >supporting any of that.
>>
>> I agree to an extent, though I think you'll find the web is becoming
>> more, rather than less, important. And Macromedia are trying to do
>> for the web what MS did for the Operating System, and to large extent,
>> succeeding.
>
>Sure, the web is important and will become more important in the future.
>Still, the point I made is valid. Many graphics people will starve trying
>to make any money in web design. All the amateurs have driven the pay
>scales way down. On the other end you have all the non-creative programmers
>who think they are artists for the same reason the amateurs pass themselves
>off as artists: they think being able to use an app qualifies one as an
>artist. So in the end great looking websites are clearly in the minority.
>Most of it is just depressing looking clutter.
>
>I really have to come down hard on all these technical schools and even some
>colleges who provide "art education" yet only teach computer apps. The
>graphical landscape across America is a total mess because of this. To put
>it in "analog" terms the equivalent would be someone deciding, "I'm going to
>be a painter" and he goes to the art supply store buys an oil paint set and
>thinks that because he now has the equipment he is in the same league as
>Rembrandt, but offers his services for less.
>
I hate to say this, but I've got to agree. Much the same in the UK,

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Hecate
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veni, vidi, relinqui

It runs fine on an old P3, 233 with 96 megs running Millenium. That old box
is still pretty reliable.
Peter Cowie
"Bob" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> MB <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote in message news:boem4v$l19$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Problems running Fontographer 4.1 on XP?
> >
> > Loads up, then crashes out displaying the following message:
> > Could not initialize the program, because there is not enough memory
> > available to run.
> > Code = -30202
>
> If you have any more than 512MB of RAM installed on a computer
Fontographer
> will lose its mind and display that message. There are some workarounds
> (listed in the technical notes section at the Macromedia website). Many
do
> not work on a majority of machines.
>
> This is issue is just one of the reasons why I have for keeping an old
> computer alive and running.
>
> Bobby Henderson
>
>
>