«

On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:34:57 -0400, Alan Browne
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
: Panasonic issues 'battery safety' firmware
:
: Panasonic has released firmware updates for its latest digital cameras
: including the GH1, G1, ZS3 and TS1. The new firmware can identify
: genuine Panasonic batteries and _prevents the use of any third party
: battery packs_. The company says it has taken this move to ensure safety
: of its users against possible injuries because of overcharging, internal
: heating or short circuit in third-party batteries.
:
: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0906/09...vicenotice.asp
:
: What a BS ploy. (And I hope this does not occur to Sony).

Surely you jest. Sony is the company that once sneaked operating system
changes into users' computers to prevent them from "stealing" content from
Sony CDs.

A few years ago laptop batteries sold by Dell and several other manufacturers
started exploding and starting fires. Some of the manufacturers had to issue
recalls. Who actually made the offending batteries for those manufacturers?
Sony.

I think it's fair to say that if there's a way to make an extra buck, it has
already occurred to Sony.

Bob

"Charles E Hardwidge" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:YFf%l.45368$(E-Mail Removed) om...
> "Robert Coe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>> Surely you jest. Sony is the company that once sneaked operating system
>> changes into users' computers to prevent them from "stealing" content
>> from
>> Sony CDs.
>>
>> A few years ago laptop batteries sold by Dell and several other
>> manufacturers started exploding and starting fires. Some of the
>> manufacturers had to issue recalls. Who actually made the offending
>> batteries for those manufacturers? Sony.
>>
>> I think it's fair to say that if there's a way to make an extra buck, it
>> has already occurred to Sony.
>
> You mean a US division of Sony used a faulty third party tool, and they
> recalled the broken batteries without issue? The last time I checked Sony
> were suing that third party, and scammers aren't known for making good on
> warranties. Ragging on Sony for that is as dumb as if I carried a grudge
> against Americans for George Bush.

So? I carry a grudge against Americans for George Bush, and I
**am** American.

Chris

On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 21:26:05 -0700, "Chris Pisarra" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
:
: "Charles E Hardwidge" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
: news:YFf%l.45368$(E-Mail Removed) om...
: > "Robert Coe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
: > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
: >
: >> Surely you jest. Sony is the company that once sneaked operating system
: >> changes into users' computers to prevent them from "stealing" content
: >> from
: >> Sony CDs.
: >>
: >> A few years ago laptop batteries sold by Dell and several other
: >> manufacturers started exploding and starting fires. Some of the
: >> manufacturers had to issue recalls. Who actually made the offending
: >> batteries for those manufacturers? Sony.
: >>
: >> I think it's fair to say that if there's a way to make an extra buck, it
: >> has already occurred to Sony.
: >
: > You mean a US division of Sony used a faulty third party tool, and they
: > recalled the broken batteries without issue? The last time I checked Sony
: > were suing that third party, and scammers aren't known for making good on
: > warranties. Ragging on Sony for that is as dumb as if I carried a grudge
: > against Americans for George Bush.
:
: So? I carry a grudge against Americans for George Bush, and I
: **am** American.

Come to think of it, so do I. And I'm a Republican.

Bob

Charles E Hardwidge wrote:

>
> I'm taking a balanced view, and that was really the point behind my comment
> so there's no violent disagreement here.
>
> I've stopped watching broadcast TV, don't read the media, and don't vote
> for
> similar reasons.
>
> I think, it's important to find yourself as much as finding the shot
> and, in
> some ways, they can be the same thing.
>

You're right Charles...
Hearing every day that America is on the verge of a depression after
I've already decided to come home (from 30 years in Australia) is
disturbing enough but to learn that my home is also home to a bunch of
retirees behaving badly... bigots who stick their head in the sand and
ignore the even more frightening fact that they created the mess in the
first place is even more disturbing.

I wouldn't have know anything about it if I'd simply bought a book and
not watched TV!


--
You don't stop laughing because you grow old,
You grow old because you stop laughing!

"Alan Browne" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:kO6dnRAlEu-(E-Mail Removed)...
> On 21-06-09 13:13, Charles E Hardwidge wrote:
>> "Alan Browne" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed) ...
>>
>>> Which in an odd way proves my point. More suppliers are better than
>>> fewer. As to the Sony batteries, as unfortunate as those failures were,
>>> it was a near inevitable consequence of making Li-ion batteries -
>>> learning
>>> curve.
>>
>> There's usually a balance between authority and society, or brands and
>> the
>> market. I note, Ray Bradbury is railing against the internet and he has a
>> point. The tiny bit I pay attention to isn't very good, and I get a
>> similar
>> discomfort with the traditional darkroom versus the digital darkroom.
>
> You keep raising objections to your own progress with digital photography.
> Take the Nike attitude.
>
> Ray Bradbury is one of the brighter lights of fiction, esp. science
> fiction coupled to social realities. I can see how he would see the
> negatives in the internet. However, like all double edged swords, the
> internet has its overwhelmingly positive side as it does its negative -
> people need to focus on getting positive value from it.
>
> A friend of mine, no wilting flower where it comes to technology,
> marketing and media, has all but sworn off reading or listening to the
> news. It has become to him a mind distracting repetitious blur that has
> almost no bearing on his life.
>


One of the most clever parodies of the news media's propensity of mindless
repetition was the "Buckwheat is dead." skit on SNL:

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/82/82pstutts.phtml

--
Peter

On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:58:28 -0400, "Larry Thong" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:
: Robert Coe wrote:
:
: >> So? I carry a grudge against Americans for George Bush,
: >> and I **am** American.
: >
: > Come to think of it, so do I. And I'm a Republican.
:
: Yep, you voted for him and now I get to pay for his incompetence for the
: next 25-years. Thank God for Obama, the savior!

Rita, are you daft? I was probably that moron's most outspoken opponent in the
photography newsgroups. If you don't remember that, just ask George Kerby, who
actually did support Bush. I didn't vote for him either time, and I didn't
even vote for his father when he ran for re-election.

I'm a real Republican, not a neocon or Cheney stooge. I'm appalled at the
direction the party has taken in recent years. I voted for Obama and would do
so again in a heartbeat.

Bob

Robert Coe wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:58:28 -0400, "Larry Thong" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
> : Robert Coe wrote:
> :
> : >> So? I carry a grudge against Americans for George Bush,
> : >> and I **am** American.
> : >
> : > Come to think of it, so do I. And I'm a Republican.
> :
> : Yep, you voted for him and now I get to pay for his incompetence for the
> : next 25-years. Thank God for Obama, the savior!
>
> Rita, are you daft? I was probably that moron's most outspoken opponent in the
> photography newsgroups. If you don't remember that, just ask George Kerby, who
> actually did support Bush. I didn't vote for him either time, and I didn't
> even vote for his father when he ran for re-election.
>
> I'm a real Republican, not a neocon or Cheney stooge. I'm appalled at the
> direction the party has taken in recent years.



> I voted for Obama and would do
> so again in a heartbeat.

You wouldn't be alone. There are many people (about 52% of the voting
public) who have displayed little respect for the office of the
president. How else can one explain Obama being elected when so little
is know about him or his ambitions.

>
> Bob

In rec.photo.digital.slr-systems nick c <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Robert Coe wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:58:28 -0400, "Larry Thong" <(E-Mail Removed)>
>> wrote:
>> : Robert Coe wrote:
>> :
>> : >> So? I carry a grudge against Americans for George Bush,
>> : >> and I **am** American.
>> : >
>> : > Come to think of it, so do I. And I'm a Republican.
>> :
>> : Yep, you voted for him and now I get to pay for his incompetence for the
>> : next 25-years. Thank God for Obama, the savior!
>>
>> Rita, are you daft? I was probably that moron's most outspoken opponent in the
>> photography newsgroups. If you don't remember that, just ask George Kerby, who
>> actually did support Bush. I didn't vote for him either time, and I didn't
>> even vote for his father when he ran for re-election.
>>
>> I'm a real Republican, not a neocon or Cheney stooge. I'm appalled at the
>> direction the party has taken in recent years.



>> I voted for Obama and would do
>> so again in a heartbeat.

> You wouldn't be alone. There are many people (about 52% of the voting
> public) who have displayed little respect for the office of the
> president. How else can one explain Obama being elected when so little
> is know about him or his ambitions.

Anyone who didn't know a lot about Obama and his intentions simply
didn't care or hadn't been paying attention. He didn't suddenly arrive
from another planet. On his way up he made quite a lot of noise, wrote
a lot, and attracted plenty of interest, research, and comment.

--
Chris Malcolm

On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:06:14 GMT, "Charles E Hardwidge"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>
>"Alan Browne" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed) m...
>> On 22-06-09 16:13, nick c wrote:
>>
>> Five things killed McCain:
>>
>> 1) Getting off of his own message and caving to the Republican machine in
>> the last 3 months.
>> 2) Palin.
>> 3) Palin.
>> 4) Palin.
>> 5) Palin.
>
>The informed consensus view in the UK is this is about right. McCain had
>effectively won the campaign but threw it away. Like any other group the
>Republicans will take time to accept and embrace change, and that's the
>opportunity in opposition if they want to grasp it.

About right, but I'd modify the list to be:

2) Bush
3) Palin
4) Bush
5) Palin

And, it really wasn't Palin. To many, it was the Republican party's
obvious ineptitude in promoting someone so obviously unqualified and
so obviously a sop to the Religious Right. It demonstrated that the
party itself was incapable of putting together an organization that
could manage the country.

I've added Bush because I feel so many Americans wanted all vestiges
of the Bush administration out.

I kind of wonder about 1). What *was* "his own message"? I'm not
sure he ever got *on* his own message or determined what it was.

--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida