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On Sun, 18 May 2008 07:45:33 -0700 (PDT), in rec.photo.digital yawnmoth
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>It's fairly well known that some items fluoresces when exposed to UV
>light. Unfortunately, taking pictures of these items isn't so easy.
>As I understand it, filters that filter out all light save for UV
>light can be bought for select cameras, but the items I'm interested
>in making pictures of (some currency and some sports cards) are better
>suited to scanning. Unfortunately, I'm not really sure how to go
>about doing this.
>
>It seems like if I could just find an appropriately sized rectangular
>piece of glass that I could just set that on top of the glass the
>scanner already comes with and then set the item on top of that, but
>I've not had any luck finding such an item nor have I had any luck
>finding a scanner specifically designed for this.
>
>Any ideas?

You are aware it is illegal to scan most currency? In fact most currency
have details which when recognized by modern scanning programs will cause
the scan to abort with a warning to such.

On Sun, 18 May 2008 08:50:13 -0700 (PDT), in rec.photo.digital yawnmoth
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>In short, I don't believe you know at all what you are talking about.

When you have scanned a current U$20 in any current version of PSP, PSE or
PS or any current scanner supplied software you will have your answer.
Unless things have changed in the last 5 years since I last tried it with
my old HPSJ5. Only it's own ancient software would scan it, though the
driver for my Canon 610 wouldn't print it. PSP 7 wouldn't even scan it.

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> On May 18, 12:07 pm, m...@mine.net wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 May 2008 08:50:13 -0700 (PDT), in rec.photo.digitalyawnmoth
>>
>> <terra1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >In short, I don't believe you know at all what you are talking about.
>>
>> When you have scanned a current U$20 in any current version of PSP, PSE
>> or
>> PS or any current scanner supplied software you will have your answer.
>> Unless things have changed in the last 5 years since I last tried it with
>> my old HPSJ5. Only it's own ancient software would scan it, though the
>> driver for my Canon 610 wouldn't print it. PSP 7 wouldn't even scan it.
>
> I was able to successfully scan a current $20 when using a Microtek
> ScanMaker 4850 [1] with the Scanner and Camera Wizard that comes with
> Windows XP SP2 (SP3 hasn't yet downloaded with the auto-update thing)
> [2]...
>
> The fact that newer scanners might not allow it doesn't convince me
> that it's illegal, per my above post. Also, it's not unprecedented
> for software to be overzealous when it comes to preventing illegal
> activities. For example, you're legally entitled to make backup
> copies of games [3] even though many games actively take measures to
> prevent you from doing that.
>
> And in any event, there's still the issue of sports cards. Actually,
> I suppose it's somewhat inaccurate to say sports cards. They're
> Magic: The Gathering cards. Some cards fluoresce while others don't
> [4]. The picture in [4] would be nicer if the two types were scanned
> in, side by side, as opposed to being photographed with a digital
> camera.
>
> But I don't suppose I'll be getting any help... seems to be easier to
> attack people than it is to help... :\
>
> [1] http://support.microtek.com/static/sm4850.html
> [2]
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...ntfaxscan.mspx
> [3] http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-digital.html
> [4]
> http://www.magiclibrarities.net/rari...on-images.html
This reminds me of the old paradox-it's forbidden (in Greece) to take
photographs of military camps and the like, or talk about "military
secrets", probably a Cold War remnant. While I was in the army myself, I
could take photos as I pleased, and learned many "military secrets". If I
upload any of these photos in the internet, am I breaking the law?



--
Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
major in electrical engineering
mechanized infantry reservist
hordad AT otenet DOT gr

? "Allen" <(E-Mail Removed)> ?????? ??? ??????
news:4831d3a1$0$3351$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Tzortzakakis Dimitrios wrote:
>
>> This reminds me of the old paradox-it's forbidden (in Greece) to take
>> photographs of military camps and the like, or talk about "military
>> secrets", probably a Cold War remnant. While I was in the army myself, I
>> could take photos as I pleased, and learned many "military secrets". If I
>> upload any of these photos in the internet, am I breaking the law?
>>
> Tzortzakakis, when I was in the US Army in 1954 and training to use a Nike
> surface-to-air missile, Ohm's Law was marked "Confidential"--the lowest
> level of "military secrets", but nonetheless not to be copied or even
> discussed outside our classroom. We all got a big laugh out of that.
Near every telephone in the boot camp, was printed "Be careful what you say,
the enemy is hearing". And by that time, our arch-enemies (the Turks)
probably will know the size of the Commander's underwear...



--
Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
major in electrical engineering
mechanized infantry reservist
hordad AT otenet DOT gr

On Tue, 20 May 2008 19:38:42 +0300, Tzortzakakis Dimitrios wrote:
> ? "Allen" <(E-Mail Removed)> ?????? ??? ??????
>> Tzortzakakis Dimitrios wrote:
>>
>>> This reminds me of the old paradox-it's forbidden (in Greece) to take
>>> photographs of military camps and the like, or talk about "military
>>> secrets", probably a Cold War remnant. While I was in the army myself, I
>>> could take photos as I pleased, and learned many "military secrets". If I
>>> upload any of these photos in the internet, am I breaking the law?
>>>
>> Tzortzakakis, when I was in the US Army in 1954 and training to use a Nike
>> surface-to-air missile, Ohm's Law was marked "Confidential"--the lowest
>> level of "military secrets", but nonetheless not to be copied or even
>> discussed outside our classroom. We all got a big laugh out of that.

> Near every telephone in the boot camp, was printed "Be careful what you say,
> the enemy is hearing". And by that time, our arch-enemies (the Turks)
> probably will know the size of the Commander's underwear...

From _my_ time in the air force (>40 years ago), I determined that the
reason every thing which was marked "Top Secret" was, in fact, marked
thus, was to prevent the "enemy" from finding out just how antiquated,
obsolete, unreliable, and marginally capable the "stuff" actually was.

Probably not much different now-a-days -- in any man's military.

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>
> On Sun, 18 May 2008 08:50:13 -0700 (PDT), in rec.photo.digital yawnmoth
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >In short, I don't believe you know at all what you are talking about.
>
> When you have scanned a current U$20 in any current version of PSP, PSE or
> PS or any current scanner supplied software you will have your answer.
> Unless things have changed in the last 5 years since I last tried it with
> my old HPSJ5. Only it's own ancient software would scan it, though the
> driver for my Canon 610 wouldn't print it. PSP 7 wouldn't even scan it.


Hello,

Back in 2000, just for kicks, I used my previous USB flatbed (Artec 36-bit
"Ultima 2000"), to scan a U.S. $20 bill (series 1995); it was done with the
device's bundled software, at (I believe) 800dpi.

At any rate (pun intended), I encountered no problems, whatsoever, and it
came out great.


Cordially,
John Turco <(E-Mail Removed)>