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R Halim wrote:
> A 4/3 camera with EXR sensor - Fuji MS10 EXR ?
> http://43rumors.com/ft4-fuji-joins-microfourthirds/

I was talking to the Canon rep at a local camera pro shop's big annual
sale where they bring in all the manufacturer's reps to the store. Of
course he couldn't say anything specific, but the message being conveyed
was that Canon has a micro 4:3 design (body and lenses) that they can
quickly productize and take to market if micro 4:3 takes off, but there
are no plans now to bring it to market. I expect that Nikon has done the
same sort of thing.

There is really no value proposition for 4:3 any more, and it's
essentially gone as far as it can go because of the sensor size. But
micro 4:3 at least gives you a smaller size body than the current D-SLRs
so there is at least some appeal despite the smaller sensor size and
higher noise.

In article <4ac227ee$0$1674$(E-Mail Removed)>, SMS
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> I was talking to the Canon rep at a local camera pro shop's big annual
> sale where they bring in all the manufacturer's reps to the store. Of
> course he couldn't say anything specific, but the message being conveyed
> was that Canon has a micro 4:3 design (body and lenses) that they can
> quickly productize and take to market if micro 4:3 takes off, but there
> are no plans now to bring it to market. I expect that Nikon has done the
> same sort of thing.

both nikon and canon have large sensor compacts in the design stage,
and hopefully will be released soon. however, they aren't going to be
micro 4/3rds.

> There is really no value proposition for 4:3 any more, and it's
> essentially gone as far as it can go because of the sensor size. But
> micro 4:3 at least gives you a smaller size body than the current D-SLRs
> so there is at least some appeal despite the smaller sensor size and
> higher noise.

micro 4/3rds has potential, but if it sells well, nikon and canon will
release a 1.5x/1.6x compact and olympus is in the same boat as before,
similar size body but a smaller sensor.

On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:30:55 -0700, SMS <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I was talking to the Canon rep at a local camera pro shop's big annual
>sale ....

SURRRRRrre you were. Just like you installed that computer controlled
geyser in Yellowstone National Park.

For those that want a laugh and to learn what a psychotic virtual-life
role-playing troll that this SMS really is, read this:

<http://www.wifi-forum.com/wf/showpost.php?p=448381&postcount=101>

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, John Navas
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> >> >both nikon and canon have large sensor compacts in the design stage,
> >> >and hopefully will be released soon. however, they aren't going to be
> >> >micro 4/3rds.
> >>
> >> Citation?
> >
> >thom hogan has discussed it numerous times on dpreview and has even
> >hinted that he's seen some of the designs. a couple of years ago, nikon
> >sent out a survey evaluating the viability of a large sensor compact
> >camera, however, thom felt that the survey was designed so that nikon
> >would get the answer they wanted, which was to not pursue it at the
> >time.
>
> Didn't think so. Thanks for the confirmation.

thom has far more credibility than either you or i.

> >given the success of micro 4/3rds so far, they're probably reevaluating
> >their plans, however, both nikon and canon are not going to join the
> >4/3rds consortium.
>
> Sheer speculation.

to an extent, but why would nikon and canon join the 4/3rds consortium?
they are a competitor, after all. should micro 4/3rds become a big
success, nikon and canon will want a piece of the pie. if it flops, no
loss.

In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, Troll
Highlighter <(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:30:55 -0700, SMS <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>I was talking to the Canon rep at a local camera pro shop's big annual
>>sale ....
>
>SURRRRRrre you were. Just like you installed that computer controlled
>geyser in Yellowstone National Park.
>
>For those that want a laugh and to learn what a psychotic virtual-life
>role-playing troll that this SMS really is, read this:
>
><http://www.wifi-forum.com/wf/showpost.php?p=448381&postcount=101>

Actually that sounds quite plausible.


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In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, John Navas
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:23:39 -0700, nospam <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
>in <290920090923390062%(E-Mail Removed)>:
>
>>In article <4ac227ee$0$1674$(E-Mail Removed)>, SMS
>><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>> I was talking to the Canon rep at a local camera pro shop's big annual
>>> sale where they bring in all the manufacturer's reps to the store. Of
>>> course he couldn't say anything specific, but the message being conveyed
>>> was that Canon has a micro 4:3 design (body and lenses) that they can
>>> quickly productize and take to market if micro 4:3 takes off, but there
>>> are no plans now to bring it to market. I expect that Nikon has done the
>>> same sort of thing.
>>
>>both nikon and canon have large sensor compacts in the design stage,
>>and hopefully will be released soon. however, they aren't going to be
>>micro 4/3rds.
>
>Citation? Oh wait, nevermind, I just remembered who you are.

The problem is for most of these sort of conversations there will be no
citation. I have a similar problem in my own industry. There are many
off the record discussions long before things are public.

In any event most of the web pages with this sort of stuff on are pure
fantasy and ill informed speculation anyway. Just because it is on the
interweb does not make it real.

As Nikon/Canon hold the major share of the market they don't really need
4/3rds. However as Fuji is very closely aligned to Nikon it could be
that Nikon want to test the water with a non-Nikon Nikon if you see what
I mean.

If 3/4rds does really take off (unlikely in my opinion) then Nikon will
want a piece of the action and they will have a head start via Fuji. If
not then Nikon have lost nothing other than some R&D time/resource


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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:58:02 +0100, Chris H <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, Troll
>Highlighter <(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>>On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:30:55 -0700, SMS <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>>I was talking to the Canon rep at a local camera pro shop's big annual
>>>sale ....
>>
>>SURRRRRrre you were. Just like you installed that computer controlled
>>geyser in Yellowstone National Park.
>>
>>For those that want a laugh and to learn what a psychotic virtual-life
>>role-playing troll that this SMS really is, read this:
>>
>><http://www.wifi-forum.com/wf/showpost.php?p=448381&postcount=101>
>
>Actually that sounds quite plausible.

Of course it would, to someone like you. You're nothing but another
delusional troll. That's why psychotic trolls like SMS play this game.
People as gullible as you buy right into their outlandish ****, lock stock
and barrel. You wrongly believe that others will buy your delusional
troll's **** just as easily as you buy theirs. One delusional troll
entertaining another psychotic troll. It's that simple.

Chris H wrote:

<edited for brevity>

> As Nikon/Canon hold the major share of the market they don't really need
> 4/3rds. However as Fuji is very closely aligned to Nikon it could be
> that Nikon want to test the water with a non-Nikon Nikon if you see what
> I mean.


I was unaware any "alliance" between Fuji and Nikon; the latter company
obtains its image sensors fron Sony, does it not?

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