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Bill Geluso
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      09-24-2009, 09:48 PM
I am a newbie, so please tell me if this question is inappropriate
for this newsgroup.

I had 72 photos on in my Samsung SL310W internal memory, with room
for 30 more photos. After connecting the camera to my Mac computer,
I dragged the folder containing the 72 photos from the camera onto
the Mac. I was able to view these photos on my Mac perfectly.

When I used the camera again, it said there were no images in
memory. I expected this. The camera also said, however, that I
still only had room for 30 photos. Obviously, the 72 photos that I
dragged onto my Mac are still in the camera's internal memory, even
though they are "invisible." How do I delete these photos from the
camera?

Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated, since I have
cerebral palsy and cannot get answers to this problem by going to
stores or speaking on the telephone.

Thank you very much,
Bill Geluso


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Ray Fischer
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      09-25-2009, 02:53 AM
Bill Geluso <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>I am a newbie, so please tell me if this question is inappropriate
>for this newsgroup.


It is.

>I had 72 photos on in my Samsung SL310W internal memory, with room
>for 30 more photos. After connecting the camera to my Mac computer,
>I dragged the folder containing the 72 photos from the camera onto
>the Mac. I was able to view these photos on my Mac perfectly.
>
>When I used the camera again, it said there were no images in
>memory. I expected this. The camera also said, however, that I
>still only had room for 30 photos. Obviously, the 72 photos that I
>dragged onto my Mac are still in the camera's internal memory, even
>though they are "invisible." How do I delete these photos from the
>camera?


Format the card.

>Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated, since I have
>cerebral palsy and cannot get answers to this problem by going to
>stores or speaking on the telephone.


Had you considered reading the manual?

It took me all of about 90 seconds to find the manual on Samsung's web
site and find out some useful information.
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/co...0W_English.pdf

1) Your camera uses an SD memory card. The fact that yours holds only
100 pictures tells me that you have one with an extremely small amount
of memory. For $20 you can buy one which will store thousands of photos.

2) You can completely erase the memory card by selecting "Format" from
the SETTINGS menu. This is described on page 77 of your manual.

There is an expression used by technology people frustrated by people
who ask questions because they refuse to read the manual which will
answer their questions.

RTFM

Read The F[ine] Manual.

"Fine" is not usually word of choice.

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Tim Conway
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      09-25-2009, 04:01 PM

"Bill Geluso" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:h9gpfo$pos$(E-Mail Removed)...
>I am a newbie, so please tell me if this question is inappropriate
> for this newsgroup.
>
> I had 72 photos on in my Samsung SL310W internal memory, with room
> for 30 more photos. After connecting the camera to my Mac computer,
> I dragged the folder containing the 72 photos from the camera onto
> the Mac. I was able to view these photos on my Mac perfectly.
>
> When I used the camera again, it said there were no images in
> memory. I expected this. The camera also said, however, that I
> still only had room for 30 photos. Obviously, the 72 photos that I
> dragged onto my Mac are still in the camera's internal memory, even
> though they are "invisible." How do I delete these photos from the
> camera?
>
> Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated, since I have
> cerebral palsy and cannot get answers to this problem by going to
> stores or speaking on the telephone.
>

along with what Ray said, you should format the card.
even though the photos are gone, it still has info on the card that the
camera
will reset if you format the card.

 
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Dave Cohen
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      09-25-2009, 04:14 PM
Tim Conway wrote:
>
> "Bill Geluso" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:h9gpfo$pos$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I am a newbie, so please tell me if this question is inappropriate
>> for this newsgroup.
>>
>> I had 72 photos on in my Samsung SL310W internal memory, with room
>> for 30 more photos. After connecting the camera to my Mac computer,
>> I dragged the folder containing the 72 photos from the camera onto
>> the Mac. I was able to view these photos on my Mac perfectly.
>>
>> When I used the camera again, it said there were no images in
>> memory. I expected this. The camera also said, however, that I
>> still only had room for 30 photos. Obviously, the 72 photos that I
>> dragged onto my Mac are still in the camera's internal memory, even
>> though they are "invisible." How do I delete these photos from the
>> camera?
>>
>> Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated, since I have
>> cerebral palsy and cannot get answers to this problem by going to
>> stores or speaking on the telephone.
>>

> along with what Ray said, you should format the card.
> even though the photos are gone, it still has info on the card that the
> camera
> will reset if you format the card.


I don't know if the Mac behaves differently from Windows machines, but
for the latter dragging files or folders between drive letters does not
erase from the source. And if the files were erased why wasn't the space
recovered. I've no issue with the advice offered but need more
convincing as to the cause.
 
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      09-25-2009, 04:41 PM
Bill Geluso wrote:
> I am a newbie, so please tell me if this question is inappropriate
> for this newsgroup.


Seems a pretty good place to me.

>
> I had 72 photos on in my Samsung SL310W internal memory, with room
> for 30 more photos. After connecting the camera to my Mac computer,
> I dragged the folder containing the 72 photos from the camera onto
> the Mac. I was able to view these photos on my Mac perfectly.


Your camera has 30Meg of internal memory, so 72 photos plus space for 30
more means that it stores 100+ pictures in 30MB, and so uses 300KB
average by picture. This is darn small for the 13Mpixel pictures this
camera produces (one would expect roughly 4MB per picture). So unless
you are using it at a much lower resolution or with a very aggressive
compression factor, you must be talking about the SD card? What size are
the photo files on the Mac?

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Jürgen Exner
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      09-25-2009, 05:07 PM
Dave Cohen <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Tim Conway wrote:
>> "Bill Geluso" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> I am a newbie, so please tell me if this question is inappropriate
>>> for this newsgroup.
>>>
>>> I had 72 photos on in my Samsung SL310W internal memory, with room
>>> for 30 more photos. After connecting the camera to my Mac computer,
>>> I dragged the folder containing the 72 photos from the camera onto
>>> the Mac. I was able to view these photos on my Mac perfectly.


What do you mean by "drag"? Did you "Copy" or did you "Move" the files?

>>> When I used the camera again, it said there were no images in
>>> memory. I expected this. The camera also said, however, that I
>>> still only had room for 30 photos. Obviously, the 72 photos that I
>>> dragged onto my Mac are still in the camera's internal memory, even
>>> though they are "invisible." How do I delete these photos from the
>>> camera?


What do you mean by "internal memory"? Doesn't your camera have a memory
card?
Wild guess: Your computer changed something (created thumbnails, ....)
which makes your camera choke now. If you don't care about the photos on
the memory card (they are on your computer anyway) then I would just
reformat the card.
Or check again on your computer and make sure you actually deleted all
the files from the memory card.

>> along with what Ray said, you should format the card.
>> even though the photos are gone, it still has info on the card that the
>> camera
>> will reset if you format the card.


Agree.

>I don't know if the Mac behaves differently from Windows machines, but
>for the latter dragging files or folders between drive letters does not
>erase from the source.


That depends upon if you "Move" or "Copy". You can do either in Windows.

>And if the files were erased why wasn't the space
>recovered. I've no issue with the advice offered but need more
>convincing as to the cause.


Wild guess: the computer somehow modified the files or just the folder
(not uncommon) and the camera doesn't like that change (some are _very_
picky and will only recognize unmodified, original pictures they took.

jue
 
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Bill Geluso
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      09-26-2009, 01:35 AM
Ofnuts <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
Thanks, guys, for your suggestions. Bertrand is the only one who
understood that I was using the "built-in" (internal) memory of the
camera, and NOT an SD memory card. Bertrand is also correct in that
I was using a very low resolution to squeeze many photos into this
(small) 30Meg built-in memory. (I have only had this camera for two
weeks and haven't bought a memory card yet.)

At any rate, does any one of you have any ideas how to get rid of
these photos from this internal memory? (This internal cannot be
formatted by the camera.) Although I know my problem won't be a
"problem" anymore when I start using an external memory card, I
still would like to clean out the internal memory.

Thanks again,
Bill


> Bill Geluso wrote:
>> I am a newbie, so please tell me if this question is inappropriate
>> for this newsgroup.

>
> Seems a pretty good place to me.
>
>>
>> I had 72 photos on in my Samsung SL310W internal memory, with room
>> for 30 more photos. After connecting the camera to my Mac computer,
>> I dragged the folder containing the 72 photos from the camera onto
>> the Mac. I was able to view these photos on my Mac perfectly.

>
> Your camera has 30Meg of internal memory, so 72 photos plus space for 30
> more means that it stores 100+ pictures in 30MB, and so uses 300KB
> average by picture. This is darn small for the 13Mpixel pictures this
> camera produces (one would expect roughly 4MB per picture). So unless
> you are using it at a much lower resolution or with a very aggressive
> compression factor, you must be talking about the SD card? What size are
> the photo files on the Mac?
>


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      09-26-2009, 06:53 AM
Bill Geluso <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Ofnuts <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Thanks, guys, for your suggestions. Bertrand is the only one who
>understood that I was using the "built-in" (internal) memory of the
>camera, and NOT an SD memory card. Bertrand is also correct in that
>I was using a very low resolution to squeeze many photos into this
>(small) 30Meg built-in memory. (I have only had this camera for two
>weeks and haven't bought a memory card yet.)
>
>At any rate, does any one of you have any ideas how to get rid of
>these photos from this internal memory?


Yes.

> (This internal cannot be
>formatted by the camera.) Although I know my problem won't be a
>"problem" anymore when I start using an external memory card, I
>still would like to clean out the internal memory.


RTFM. Page 77 and 78.

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      09-26-2009, 03:52 PM
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 01:35:45 +0000, Bill Geluso wrote:

> Ofnuts <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote: Thanks, guys, for your
> suggestions. Bertrand is the only one who understood that I was using
> the "built-in" (internal) memory of the camera, and NOT an SD memory
> card. Bertrand is also correct in that I was using a very low
> resolution to squeeze many photos into this (small) 30Meg built-in
> memory. (I have only had this camera for two weeks and haven't bought a
> memory card yet.)
>
> At any rate, does any one of you have any ideas how to get rid of these
> photos from this internal memory? (This internal cannot be formatted by
> the camera.) Although I know my problem won't be a "problem" anymore
> when I start using an external memory card, I still would like to clean
> out the internal memory.
>
> Thanks again,
> Bill
>


I think we understand that now. Try reading pages 77 and 78 of the manual
- my guess, based on your description, is that the system placed the
erased picutres in the 'recycle bin' - you need to turn the 'recycle bin'
off and format the internal memory, if that is possible. If not, then
turning off the recycle bin may reclaim the photos so you can erase them.

I'd STRONGLY recommend you spring for the $10 to get a 1gb or 2gb SD card
- it will make life MUCH easier.


>
>> Bill Geluso wrote:
>>> I am a newbie, so please tell me if this question is inappropriate for
>>> this newsgroup.

>>
>> Seems a pretty good place to me.
>>
>>
>>> I had 72 photos on in my Samsung SL310W internal memory, with room for
>>> 30 more photos. After connecting the camera to my Mac computer, I
>>> dragged the folder containing the 72 photos from the camera onto the
>>> Mac. I was able to view these photos on my Mac perfectly.

>>
>> Your camera has 30Meg of internal memory, so 72 photos plus space for
>> 30 more means that it stores 100+ pictures in 30MB, and so uses 300KB
>> average by picture. This is darn small for the 13Mpixel pictures this
>> camera produces (one would expect roughly 4MB per picture). So unless
>> you are using it at a much lower resolution or with a very aggressive
>> compression factor, you must be talking about the SD card? What size
>> are the photo files on the Mac?
>>


 
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