help deciding on which lights.

I am ready to get some lights for occasional use. I am looking at several on
ebay and would like opinions of them please. The ones that I am looking at
are:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2937992430

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2937906681

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2938097906

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2937451714

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2936794980

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=15221

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=30087

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=30087

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Ted

Ted wrote:

> I am ready to get some lights for occasional use. I am looking at several
on
> ebay and would like opinions of them please. The ones that I am looking at
> are:

Crossposting to as many groups as possible..., listing many, many eBay
auctions...

I'd say your spamming your, or your friends auctions.
Go away, please.

"Q.G. de Bakker" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:be4ie4$qpk$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Ted wrote:
>
> > I am ready to get some lights for occasional use. I am looking at
several
> on
> > ebay and would like opinions of them please. The ones that I am looking
at
> > are:
>
> Crossposting to as many groups as possible..., listing many, many eBay
> auctions...
>
> I'd say your spamming your, or your friends auctions.
> Go away, please.


you're a moron.

Ted wrote:

> I am ready to get some lights for occasional use. I am looking at several on
> ebay and would like opinions of them please. The ones that I am looking at
> are:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2937992430

Overpriced. I have some Britek gear. Stick with the lower priced items if you
go with them.

>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2937906681

Okay, compare with
<http://www.goodwinphotoinc.com/Studio_Lighting/studio_lighting.html>. I bought
some Britek items from them before they closed their store and went only
on-line sales. Since you appear to be in Miami, check with
<http://www.mardelonline.com/products/studiolighting/Britek/Britek.html> or get
their phone number on the home page <http://www.mardelonline.com>.

Anyway, the Britek lights are low cost, and plastic. They are okay for small
studio, or will transport well. They are cheap enough that you do not need to
worry about them in rougher conditions . . . if they break, oh well, just buy
some more. Even the smaller units at GN 100 are good in small spaces. However,
a really good flash, with cords to get it off the camera, might work just as
well.

Rather than go for a kit, if you want to stay low cost, start small. One Britek
AS-36 or similar should be fine to start. If you want some accuracy, and
avoiding bracketing, get a good flash meter. Do a search through the archives
for this group, and read about the experiences Patrick L. had with some Alien
Bees studio strobes. Those are really well made units, and even one might be
good for some photographic situations.

Buy a good book on lighting. Learning To Light by Hicks and Schultz is a great
place to start. The B&H Photo <http://www.bhphotovideo.com> Professional
Lighting Source Book is another good resource, and at over 800 pages, has
almost everything one could imagine. Figure out what you want to use the
strobes to photograph. Often one light can be enough. Many of the higher priced
units have sliding power settings, to help avoid overlighting. While many
sources will tell you to buy as much light as you can afford, with the idea
that you can never have enough, this idea can also lead to overlighting, and is
a common first mistake.

Consider starting with lighting modifiers, since those will change the look of
your lighting. One strobe, and a reflector, can be functional similar to two
strobes in the final effect, but might be similar. Start looking through
magazines with subject matter you want to light. Try to figure out how many
lights were used, what direction, and how they related to the camera position.
Look at the eyes, or any reflective surface, and see if you can count the
lights. Understand what you are viewing prior to buying your own kit.

Finally, I hate to say this, but grab a copy of the latest Shutterbug magazine.
Use this as a catalogue for pricing, and retailers for lighting. White
Lightning, Alien Bees, Elinchrom, Novotron, Norman, Broncolor, Speedotron,
Profoto and Bowens all make fairly rugged gear. Many of these could be
considered good used purchases. The lower cost is often covered by Britek,
Morris, SP Studio Systems, and Photogenic, with some better choices from each
company. If you find a copy of PDN (Photo District News), sometimes there are
articles on lighting, including placements, power settings, camera settings,
and camera positions. Some of the UK photo magazines have occasional articles
as well.

There are few rules in lighting that cannot be broken, but only if you know how
to do it. Do not get into a mindset that you need two strobes, and two
umbrellas, just because they have the word "kit" on the box. Do some more
research, ask some more questions, then make an informed purchase.

Ciao!

Gordon Moat
Alliance Graphique Studio
<http://www.allgstudio.com>

M wrote:

> you're a moron.

Why, thank you, Matt!
Fine praise indeed coming from a selfconfessed Giant Dork.

"Q.G. de Bakker" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:be4na1$cj$(E-Mail Removed)...
> M wrote:
>
> > you're a moron.
>
> Why, thank you, Matt!
> Fine praise indeed coming from a selfconfessed Giant Dork.


at least i can tell the difference between someone who want a little advice,
and someone who really is 'spamming'. idiot.

not spamming, not trying to advertise for anyone, just trying to get
information from people that know more than I do about this subject.


"Q.G. de Bakker" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:be4ie4$qpk$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Ted wrote:
>
> > I am ready to get some lights for occasional use. I am looking at
several
> on
> > ebay and would like opinions of them please. The ones that I am looking
at
> > are:
>
> Crossposting to as many groups as possible..., listing many, many eBay
> auctions...
>
> I'd say your spamming your, or your friends auctions.
> Go away, please.
>
>
>

Thanks for all the information.


"Gordon Moat" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Ted wrote:
>
> > I am ready to get some lights for occasional use. I am looking at
several on
> > ebay and would like opinions of them please. The ones that I am looking
at
> > are:
> >
> >
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2937992430
>
> Overpriced. I have some Britek gear. Stick with the lower priced items if
you
> go with them.
>
> >
> >
> >
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2937906681
>
> Okay, compare with
> <http://www.goodwinphotoinc.com/Studio_Lighting/studio_lighting.html>. I
bought
> some Britek items from them before they closed their store and went only
> on-line sales. Since you appear to be in Miami, check with
> <http://www.mardelonline.com/products/studiolighting/Britek/Britek.html>
or get
> their phone number on the home page <http://www.mardelonline.com>.
>
> Anyway, the Britek lights are low cost, and plastic. They are okay for
small
> studio, or will transport well. They are cheap enough that you do not need
to
> worry about them in rougher conditions . . . if they break, oh well, just
buy
> some more. Even the smaller units at GN 100 are good in small spaces.
However,
> a really good flash, with cords to get it off the camera, might work just
as
> well.
>
> Rather than go for a kit, if you want to stay low cost, start small. One
Britek
> AS-36 or similar should be fine to start. If you want some accuracy, and
> avoiding bracketing, get a good flash meter. Do a search through the
archives
> for this group, and read about the experiences Patrick L. had with some
Alien
> Bees studio strobes. Those are really well made units, and even one might
be
> good for some photographic situations.
>
> Buy a good book on lighting. Learning To Light by Hicks and Schultz is a
great
> place to start. The B&H Photo <http://www.bhphotovideo.com> Professional
> Lighting Source Book is another good resource, and at over 800 pages, has
> almost everything one could imagine. Figure out what you want to use the
> strobes to photograph. Often one light can be enough. Many of the higher
priced
> units have sliding power settings, to help avoid overlighting. While many
> sources will tell you to buy as much light as you can afford, with the
idea
> that you can never have enough, this idea can also lead to overlighting,
and is
> a common first mistake.
>
> Consider starting with lighting modifiers, since those will change the
look of
> your lighting. One strobe, and a reflector, can be functional similar to
two
> strobes in the final effect, but might be similar. Start looking through
> magazines with subject matter you want to light. Try to figure out how
many
> lights were used, what direction, and how they related to the camera
position.
> Look at the eyes, or any reflective surface, and see if you can count the
> lights. Understand what you are viewing prior to buying your own kit.
>
> Finally, I hate to say this, but grab a copy of the latest Shutterbug
magazine.
> Use this as a catalogue for pricing, and retailers for lighting. White
> Lightning, Alien Bees, Elinchrom, Novotron, Norman, Broncolor, Speedotron,
> Profoto and Bowens all make fairly rugged gear. Many of these could be
> considered good used purchases. The lower cost is often covered by Britek,
> Morris, SP Studio Systems, and Photogenic, with some better choices from
each
> company. If you find a copy of PDN (Photo District News), sometimes there
are
> articles on lighting, including placements, power settings, camera
settings,
> and camera positions. Some of the UK photo magazines have occasional
articles
> as well.
>
> There are few rules in lighting that cannot be broken, but only if you
know how
> to do it. Do not get into a mindset that you need two strobes, and two
> umbrellas, just because they have the word "kit" on the box. Do some more
> research, ask some more questions, then make an informed purchase.
>
> Ciao!
>
> Gordon Moat
> Alliance Graphique Studio
> <http://www.allgstudio.com>
>

"Lisa Horton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>
> "Q.G. de Bakker" wrote:
> >
> > M wrote:
> >
> > > you're a moron.
> >
> > Why, thank you, Matt!
> > Fine praise indeed coming from a selfconfessed Giant Dork.
>
> Remember that Matt is eminently qualified to identify fellow morons

at least i know how to take pictures. your snaps are right up there with
bety's. do you use a TOTALLY digital d60?

"Ted" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:T8mNa.608$(E-Mail Removed)...
> not spamming, not trying to advertise for anyone, just trying to get
> information from people that know more than I do about this subject.

exactly. don't mind the idiots (qg and lisa) who said you were spamming.