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Old 06-26-2003, 09:27 PM
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Hi,

Im thinking of getting a power-mac g5 for the extra juice, and found
this article on pluginz.com re a free phototshop acceleration plugin
that will be available until applce can get a g5 build out.

http://www.pluginz.com/default.php?loc=news&id=909

Anyone have any feedback on the g5's yet?

-Ricky


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Old 06-27-2003, 05:55 PM
Eric Gill
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(E-Mail Removed) (ricky) wrote in
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> Hi,
>
> Im thinking of getting a power-mac g5 for the extra juice, and found
> this article on pluginz.com re a free phototshop acceleration plugin
> that will be available until applce can get a g5 build out.
>
> http://www.pluginz.com/default.php?loc=news&id=909
>
> Anyone have any feedback on the g5's yet?


Not until the public has possession of a few, no. Apple, of course, felt
they had to cook the books for PR purposes, which, given the kind of muscle
the box has, is asinine.

No one can tell you *exactly* what kind of performance to expect yet, but I
really doubt you'll be dissapointed, especially given the speed increases
I've seen in the leaked version of Panther.
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Old 06-27-2003, 06:28 PM
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>Not until the public has possession of a few, no. Apple, of course, felt
>they had to cook the books for PR purposes, which, given the kind of muscle
>the box has, is asinine.


Actually, there's no clear evidence of book-cooking. Both test conditions were
chosen to equalize the playing field (test machine performance rather than
compiler performance) under conditions which provided the greatest benchmark
scores for all the tested systems--for example, hyperthreading was turned off
in the Dell systems because hyperthreading produces LOWER, not higher, SPEC
benchmark scores.

Using the Intel compiler and a custom malloc() library produces higher
benchmark scores in the Dell systems--but using the CodeWarrior compiler
produces higher scores on the G5 as well! The gcc compiler was used because the
SPEC scores test both machine performance AND compiler performance; the only
way to control for differences in compiler performance is to use the same
compiler on both platforms.

If the test is re-run with optimizing compilers and libraries on both
platforms, I suspect that both sets of SPEC benchmark numbers will be higher,
but they'll still be roughly the same with respect to each other.

Of course, not all programs will naturally benefit from a 64-bit processor.
Photoshop, however, is an example of a program which WILL benefit from a 64-bit
processor, once it has been adapted to use such a processor. Adobe has promised
a plug-in that optimizes Photoshop for the 64-bit G5 by the time the system
ships.

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Old 06-27-2003, 06:42 PM
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(E-Mail Removed) (Tacit) wrote in
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>>Not until the public has possession of a few, no. Apple, of course,
>>felt they had to cook the books for PR purposes, which, given the kind
>>of muscle the box has, is asinine.

>
> Actually, there's no clear evidence of book-cooking.


Tacit, what would you say if the AltiVec engine on the G5 had been
disabled for the tests?

> Both test
> conditions were chosen to equalize the playing field (test machine
> performance rather than compiler performance) under conditions which
> provided the greatest benchmark scores for all the tested systems--for
> example, hyperthreading was turned off in the Dell systems because
> hyperthreading produces LOWER, not higher, SPEC benchmark scores.


Except, of course, on MP systems, which they turned off as well. The
original site which called 'Bullshit!' on these "tests" showed other
verified benchmarks which showed the difference between the two states,
and it is significant.

However, publishing the results of HT on, for better or worse, would have
had more credibility.

And SSE2, which was turned off, something that drastically affects
performance of certain functions.

Those benchmarks are going to do nothing but give the flamewars new fuel.
The G5 doesn't deserve the Apple marketing department.

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Old 06-28-2003, 04:03 PM
stan@temple.edu
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ricky <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Hi,


> Im thinking of getting a power-mac g5 for the extra juice, and found
> this article on pluginz.com re a free phototshop acceleration plugin
> that will be available until applce can get a g5 build out.


> http://www.pluginz.com/default.php?loc=news&id=909


> Anyone have any feedback on the g5's yet?


Considering that the G5 is not available for purchase yet, I suggest you
wait until the machines are actually in the hands of Photoshop users
before you can expect anyone to answer your question.
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Old 06-30-2003, 01:29 AM
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In article <Xns93A77985E322Aericvgillyahoocom@24.28.95.158> , Eric Gill
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> (E-Mail Removed) (ricky) wrote in
> news:(E-Mail Removed) om:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Im thinking of getting a power-mac g5 for the extra juice, and found
> > this article on pluginz.com re a free phototshop acceleration plugin
> > that will be available until applce can get a g5 build out.
> >
> > http://www.pluginz.com/default.php?loc=news&id=909
> >
> > Anyone have any feedback on the g5's yet?


Yes: they really are that fast.

Chris
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