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Ken Oaf wrote: > My elderly parents have just returned from a holiday on which they took one of > my Olympus digital cameras along with a film camera. > > I gave them specific instructions not to touch the settings, just turn it on and > take the photos. When the card is full, remove it and put another one in. > > They filled the first card, put the second one in then a self proclaimed expert > told them all memory cards must be formatted prior to use and offered to do it. > > The silly bugger managed to reset the camera, which reverted to the lowest > quality images (640x480) meaning the pictures are too small to print. > > My question is... > > Is there a fiddle proof digital camera that can have the settings locked such > that so-called experts can't stuff things up? Hi... Wow, a flashback... sending the kids off to camp eons ago; having them come back claiming that they were still on the second roll, and it was lasting a real long time. Took hundreds of pictures, and it still wasn't finished. By now you you'll have guessed that one of the leaders changed it, and it wasn't threaded onto the take up spool  Don't think there's any camera that can be locked; but it might be a good idea - maybe Ron from Kodak is watching?  Might try getting them involved in the hobby; have them learn a little themselves? Maybe be a nice hobby that you could all share together. Might try writing out step by step kindergarten level step by step instructions covering any problems they may encounter. Might tell them that experts aren't needed - or if one really, really is - see if they can't spot someone using a similar camera - at least the same manufacturer. If they're really getting on in years (as I am then maybe writing a note that they could show to their helper, telling him/her what they're trying to do, asking him/her to set it up that way for them. Might try an upgrade - where the smallest is at least greater than 640/480. Even twice that makes nice 4x6's. Just thinking.... Take care. Ken |
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Ken Weitzel wrote:
> > > Ken Oaf wrote: > >> My elderly parents have just returned from a holiday on which they >> took one of >> my Olympus digital cameras along with a film camera. >> >> I gave them specific instructions not to touch the settings, just turn >> it on and >> take the photos. When the card is full, remove it and put another one >> in. >> >> They filled the first card, put the second one in then a self >> proclaimed expert >> told them all memory cards must be formatted prior to use and offered >> to do it. >> >> The silly bugger managed to reset the camera, which reverted to the >> lowest >> quality images (640x480) meaning the pictures are too small to print. >> >> My question is... >> >> Is there a fiddle proof digital camera that can have the settings >> locked such >> that so-called experts can't stuff things up? > > > Hi... > > Wow, a flashback... sending the kids off to camp eons > ago; having them come back claiming that they were still > on the second roll, and it was lasting a real long time. > Took hundreds of pictures, and it still wasn't finished. > By now you you'll have guessed that one of the leaders > changed it, and it wasn't threaded onto the take up spool > > Don't think there's any camera that can be locked; but it > might be a good idea - maybe Ron from Kodak is watching? > > Might try getting them involved in the hobby; have them > learn a little themselves? Maybe be a nice hobby that > you could all share together. > > Might try writing out step by step kindergarten level > step by step instructions covering any problems they may > encounter. > > Might tell them that experts aren't needed - or if one > really, really is - see if they can't spot someone using > a similar camera - at least the same manufacturer. > If they're really getting on in years (as I am > then maybe writing a note that they could show to > their helper, telling him/her what they're trying to > do, asking him/her to set it up that way for them. > > Might try an upgrade - where the smallest is at least > greater than 640/480. Even twice that makes nice 4x6's. > > Just thinking.... > > Take care. > > Ken > Unless a person is seriously into late stage of dementia, they should be capable of LEARNING to use a digital camera. Usually the problem is more lack of 'want to', than 'can do'. In these cases, something with which they are more comfortable is probably better. -- Ron Hunter (E-Mail Removed) |
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"Ron Hunter" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:aAzWd.8953$(E-Mail Removed)... > Ken Weitzel wrote: >> >> >> Ken Oaf wrote: >> >>> My elderly parents have just returned from a holiday on which they took >>> one of >>> my Olympus digital cameras along with a film camera. >>> >>> I gave them specific instructions not to touch the settings, just turn >>> it on and >>> take the photos. When the card is full, remove it and put another one >>> in. >>> >>> They filled the first card, put the second one in then a self proclaimed >>> expert >>> told them all memory cards must be formatted prior to use and offered to >>> do it. >>> >>> The silly bugger managed to reset the camera, which reverted to the >>> lowest >>> quality images (640x480) meaning the pictures are too small to print. >>> >>> My question is... >>> >>> Is there a fiddle proof digital camera that can have the settings locked >>> such >>> that so-called experts can't stuff things up? >> >> >> Hi... >> >> Wow, a flashback... sending the kids off to camp eons >> ago; having them come back claiming that they were still >> on the second roll, and it was lasting a real long time. >> Took hundreds of pictures, and it still wasn't finished. >> By now you you'll have guessed that one of the leaders >> changed it, and it wasn't threaded onto the take up spool >> >> Don't think there's any camera that can be locked; but it >> might be a good idea - maybe Ron from Kodak is watching? >> >> Might try getting them involved in the hobby; have them >> learn a little themselves? Maybe be a nice hobby that >> you could all share together. >> >> Might try writing out step by step kindergarten level >> step by step instructions covering any problems they may >> encounter. >> >> Might tell them that experts aren't needed - or if one >> really, really is - see if they can't spot someone using >> a similar camera - at least the same manufacturer. >> If they're really getting on in years (as I am >> then maybe writing a note that they could show to >> their helper, telling him/her what they're trying to >> do, asking him/her to set it up that way for them. >> >> Might try an upgrade - where the smallest is at least >> greater than 640/480. Even twice that makes nice 4x6's. >> >> Just thinking.... >> >> Take care. >> >> Ken >> > Unless a person is seriously into late stage of dementia, they should be > capable of LEARNING to use a digital camera. Usually the problem is more > lack of 'want to', than 'can do'. In these cases, something with which > they are more comfortable is probably better. > > > -- > Ron Hunter (E-Mail Removed) Not necessarily. My mother was never able to master anything on the VCR beyond pushing the "up and down arrows." The same thing is true of cameras. She would become utterly frustrated and immediately give up if she had to do anything other than point and shoot (with a single press of a button). She is now old enough that your comments ring true, but this was *always* true of her. MaryL |
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MaryL wrote:
> "Ron Hunter" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > news:aAzWd.8953$(E-Mail Removed)... > >>Ken Weitzel wrote: >> >>> >>>Ken Oaf wrote: >>> >>> >>>>My elderly parents have just returned from a holiday on which they took >>>>one of >>>>my Olympus digital cameras along with a film camera. >>>> >>>>I gave them specific instructions not to touch the settings, just turn >>>>it on and >>>>take the photos. When the card is full, remove it and put another one >>>>in. >>>> >>>>They filled the first card, put the second one in then a self proclaimed >>>>expert >>>>told them all memory cards must be formatted prior to use and offered to >>>>do it. >>>> >>>>The silly bugger managed to reset the camera, which reverted to the >>>>lowest >>>>quality images (640x480) meaning the pictures are too small to print. >>>> >>>>My question is... >>>> >>>>Is there a fiddle proof digital camera that can have the settings locked >>>>such >>>>that so-called experts can't stuff things up? >>> >>> >>>Hi... >>> >>>Wow, a flashback... sending the kids off to camp eons >>>ago; having them come back claiming that they were still >>>on the second roll, and it was lasting a real long time. >>>Took hundreds of pictures, and it still wasn't finished. >>>By now you you'll have guessed that one of the leaders >>>changed it, and it wasn't threaded onto the take up spool >>> >>>Don't think there's any camera that can be locked; but it >>>might be a good idea - maybe Ron from Kodak is watching? >>> >>>Might try getting them involved in the hobby; have them >>>learn a little themselves? Maybe be a nice hobby that >>>you could all share together. >>> >>>Might try writing out step by step kindergarten level >>>step by step instructions covering any problems they may >>>encounter. >>> >>>Might tell them that experts aren't needed - or if one >>>really, really is - see if they can't spot someone using >>>a similar camera - at least the same manufacturer. >>>If they're really getting on in years (as I am >>>then maybe writing a note that they could show to >>>their helper, telling him/her what they're trying to >>>do, asking him/her to set it up that way for them. >>> >>>Might try an upgrade - where the smallest is at least >>>greater than 640/480. Even twice that makes nice 4x6's. >>> >>>Just thinking.... >>> >>>Take care. >>> >>>Ken >>> >> >>Unless a person is seriously into late stage of dementia, they should be >>capable of LEARNING to use a digital camera. Usually the problem is more >>lack of 'want to', than 'can do'. In these cases, something with which >>they are more comfortable is probably better. >> >> >>-- >>Ron Hunter (E-Mail Removed) > > > Not necessarily. My mother was never able to master anything on the VCR > beyond pushing the "up and down arrows." The same thing is true of cameras. > She would become utterly frustrated and immediately give up if she had to do > anything other than point and shoot (with a single press of a button). She > is now old enough that your comments ring true, but this was *always* true > of her. > > MaryL > > I have always wondered why some people get to the point where they aren't willing to learn something new. I hope if I reach that point someone will have the sense to bury me before I stink up the place. It just isn't my nature to NOT want to learn something, but I have a brother who has reached that point. I feel sorry for him. It isn't because he can't, he just doesn't want to learn anything else. And I am not exactly young any more, either. -- Ron Hunter (E-Mail Removed) |
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"Ron Hunter" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:zTIWd.37566$(E-Mail Removed)... > MaryL wrote: >> "Ron Hunter" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >> news:aAzWd.8953$(E-Mail Removed)... >> >>>Ken Weitzel wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>Ken Oaf wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>My elderly parents have just returned from a holiday on which they took >>>>>one of >>>>>my Olympus digital cameras along with a film camera. >>>>> >>>>>I gave them specific instructions not to touch the settings, just turn >>>>>it on and >>>>>take the photos. When the card is full, remove it and put another one >>>>>in. >>>>> >>>>>They filled the first card, put the second one in then a self >>>>>proclaimed expert >>>>>told them all memory cards must be formatted prior to use and offered >>>>>to do it. >>>>> >>>>>The silly bugger managed to reset the camera, which reverted to the >>>>>lowest >>>>>quality images (640x480) meaning the pictures are too small to print. >>>>> >>>>>My question is... >>>>> >>>>>Is there a fiddle proof digital camera that can have the settings >>>>>locked such >>>>>that so-called experts can't stuff things up? >>>> >>>> >>>>Hi... >>>> >>>>Wow, a flashback... sending the kids off to camp eons >>>>ago; having them come back claiming that they were still >>>>on the second roll, and it was lasting a real long time. >>>>Took hundreds of pictures, and it still wasn't finished. >>>>By now you you'll have guessed that one of the leaders >>>>changed it, and it wasn't threaded onto the take up spool >>>> >>>>Don't think there's any camera that can be locked; but it >>>>might be a good idea - maybe Ron from Kodak is watching? >>>> >>>>Might try getting them involved in the hobby; have them >>>>learn a little themselves? Maybe be a nice hobby that >>>>you could all share together. >>>> >>>>Might try writing out step by step kindergarten level >>>>step by step instructions covering any problems they may >>>>encounter. >>>> >>>>Might tell them that experts aren't needed - or if one >>>>really, really is - see if they can't spot someone using >>>>a similar camera - at least the same manufacturer. >>>>If they're really getting on in years (as I am >>>>then maybe writing a note that they could show to >>>>their helper, telling him/her what they're trying to >>>>do, asking him/her to set it up that way for them. >>>> >>>>Might try an upgrade - where the smallest is at least >>>>greater than 640/480. Even twice that makes nice 4x6's. >>>> >>>>Just thinking.... >>>> >>>>Take care. >>>> >>>>Ken >>>> >>> >>>Unless a person is seriously into late stage of dementia, they should be >>>capable of LEARNING to use a digital camera. Usually the problem is more >>>lack of 'want to', than 'can do'. In these cases, something with which >>>they are more comfortable is probably better. >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Ron Hunter (E-Mail Removed) >> >> >> Not necessarily. My mother was never able to master anything on the VCR >> beyond pushing the "up and down arrows." The same thing is true of >> cameras. She would become utterly frustrated and immediately give up if >> she had to do anything other than point and shoot (with a single press of >> a button). She is now old enough that your comments ring true, but this >> was *always* true of her. >> >> MaryL > I have always wondered why some people get to the point where they aren't > willing to learn something new. I hope if I reach that point someone will > have the sense to bury me before I stink up the place. It just isn't my > nature to NOT want to learn something, but I have a brother who has > reached that point. I feel sorry for him. It isn't because he can't, he > just doesn't want to learn anything else. > And I am not exactly young any more, either. > > > -- > Ron Hunter (E-Mail Removed) Partly, I think it rests with the person's areas of interest. My mother simply didn't have any interest in taking the time it would take to learn about *any* type of electronic equipment. On the other hand, she grew up on a farm and knew more than most of the men in the area concerning farm equipment (and how to repair it). By contrast, I have a great deal of interest in computers and was a "camera bug" back in the days when I had a Kodak Retina Reflex 35mm camera (including one with a hand-held light meter) -- but I know next-to-nothing about using or repairing farm machinery. MaryL |
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