AA batteries

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Joe-46er, Nov 11, 2004.

  1. Joe-46er

    Joe-46er Guest

    I think one of the most desirable features of a digital camera whether
    pro or point and shoot is the use of AA batteries. I loved my Olympus
    5050Z (until it was stolen) because I could use NiMH and
    non-rechargeable Lithium-ion AAs. Always had a fresh 4-pak on hand.
    Pissed me off when the 5060 changed battery format. Now I'm looking
    for a replacement camera.

    Anybody know of any high rez digitals that still take AAs?



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    Joe-46er, Nov 11, 2004
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  2. Joe-46er

    bob Guest

    Joe-46er <> wrote in
    news::

    > Anybody know of any high rez digitals that still take AAs?


    All of the recent black Nikon Coolpix cameras, if you buy the optional
    battery grip. I love the ergonomics of the CP-5000 with the battery grip,
    and the power lasts forever.

    Bob
     
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  3. Joe-46er

    ZONED! Guest

    On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:02:57 GMT, bob <>
    wrote:

    >Joe-46er <> wrote in
    >news::
    >
    >> Anybody know of any high rez digitals that still take AAs?

    >
    >All of the recent black Nikon Coolpix cameras, if you buy the optional
    >battery grip. I love the ergonomics of the CP-5000 with the battery grip,
    >and the power lasts forever.
    >
    >Bob


    Same with 20D with a grip
     
    ZONED!, Nov 11, 2004
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  4. Joe-46er

    Chris Durkin Guest

    The Canon A95 is 5mp and runs on AA's. Not as flexible as a D-SLR, but only
    $325 on Amazon.



    "Joe-46er" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >I think one of the most desirable features of a digital camera whether
    > pro or point and shoot is the use of AA batteries. I loved my Olympus
    > 5050Z (until it was stolen) because I could use NiMH and
    > non-rechargeable Lithium-ion AAs. Always had a fresh 4-pak on hand.
    > Pissed me off when the 5060 changed battery format. Now I'm looking
    > for a replacement camera.
    >
    > Anybody know of any high rez digitals that still take AAs?
    >
    >
    >
    > _________________________________
    >
    > "Take a little 5FU, leucovorin and oxaliplatin for thy stomach's sake." --
    > 1 Timothy 5:23 (adapted)
     
    Chris Durkin, Nov 11, 2004
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  5. Joe-46er <> writes:

    > Anybody know of any high rez digitals that still take AAs?


    I agree on the AAs. They're ubiquitous, and I'm often in places where
    rechargeables can't be recharged. AAs get me through without a problem.

    The Nikon N70 has an optional 'grip' which lets you run the camera off the
    AAs in the grip. I'd suspect the D70 will accept that (or a comparable)
    grip as well. Check for it on B+H, Adorama, or where ever.
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    Phil Stripling, Nov 12, 2004
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  6. Joe-46er

    cc0112453 Guest

    It seems like a great way to go but if you think about it, it is a
    tremendous disadvantage to the camera company to have to design around four
    AA batteries. If they can design their own battery size and shape they can
    do two things, match the power needs of their camera more closely and
    secondly shape the camera without regard to having to be able to get the
    required four AA batteries into it. I was like you until I realize that
    having a camera that used AA batteries wasn't that big of a deal. The last
    hurdle was realizing that I didn't have to buy the manufacturers batteries.
    There are many after market suppliers of these batteries and their prices
    are comparable to AA rechargeable
     
    cc0112453, Nov 12, 2004
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  7. Joe-46er

    Joe-46er Guest

    Yeah...BUT .... I'm often taking pix in very cold temps, sometimes
    down to -10 and there's nothin' like 4 AA non-rechargeable
    lithium-ions to get me through. I just find the AAs wonderfully
    convenient and light weight. Then too, I bought 100 NiMH rechargeable
    for 70 cents a piece last year. Gave 'em away like candy to my friends
    who really appreciated their usefulness.

    Being the suspicious kind, I wonder if the change-over from AAs to
    company Li-ion re-chargeables was for profit's sake rather than
    design's.

    My Oly 5050Z proved that 4 AAs could be held in a relatively small
    camera.

    Still looking. Maybe I'll just buy another 5050 again. A work of art
    it is. Refurbished ones can be had for around $380.


    On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:02:05 -0800, "cc0112453"
    <> wrote:

    > It seems like a great way to go but if you think about it, it is a
    >tremendous disadvantage to the camera company to have to design around four
    >AA batteries. If they can design their own battery size and shape they can
    >do two things, match the power needs of their camera more closely and
    >secondly shape the camera without regard to having to be able to get the
    >required four AA batteries into it. I was like you until I realize that
    >having a camera that used AA batteries wasn't that big of a deal. The last
    >hurdle was realizing that I didn't have to buy the manufacturers batteries.
    >There are many after market suppliers of these batteries and their prices
    >are comparable to AA rechargeable
    >





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    Joe-46er, Nov 12, 2004
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  8. Joe-46er wrote:
    []
    > Being the suspicious kind, I wonder if the change-over from AAs to
    > company Li-ion re-chargeables was for profit's sake rather than
    > design's.


    I think there is an element of that. I much prefer the single Li-Ion
    package to four cells that roll all over the place when changing batteries
    in the field.

    What we as consumers should be pushing for is a standard, non-proprietary
    Li-Ion cell range so that prices can fall, you wouldn't need to search out
    that elusive shape, and you might be able to get both Li-Ion and
    non-rechargeable replacements in high-street stores.

    Cheers,
    David
     
    David J Taylor, Nov 12, 2004
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  9. Joe-46er

    imbsysop Guest

    On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:03:14 GMT, "Keith Sheppard"
    <> wrote:

    >The main reason I like AA's is that they are interchangable between
    >equipment. When I go out walking the two most important devices I take with
    >me are my camera and my GPS unit. As both use AA batteries, I can take a
    >few spares to go into whichever device runs down first. It's much more
    >flexible than having to take different batteries for each.


    ... and all camera manufacturers warn against using battery sets (and
    they recommend using battery SETS) in mixed environments to prevent
    that one of the batteries should run out before the others ... with
    all the pronlems that may cause ..
     
    imbsysop, Nov 12, 2004
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  10. imbsysop <> writes:

    >.. and all camera manufacturers warn against using battery sets (and
    >they recommend using battery SETS) in mixed environments to prevent
    >that one of the batteries should run out before the others ... with
    >all the pronlems that may cause ..


    Sure, but if you use them as sets, you won't have these problems. If
    you have a GPS receiver that takes 4 AA cells, and a camera that takes 4
    AA cells, and you take along one or two more sets of 4 AAs, you can use
    any of the spare sets in either of the devices. This is more flexible
    than having another LiIon camera battery and another set of 4 AAs for
    the GPSr.

    It's even better if you also have a flashlight or a radio that uses 4 AA
    cells too.

    Dave
     
    Dave Martindale, Nov 12, 2004
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  11. "cc0112453" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > It seems like a great way to go but if you think about it, it is a
    > tremendous disadvantage to the camera company to have to design around
    > four AA batteries. If they can design their own battery size and shape
    > they can do two things, match the power needs of their camera more closely
    > and secondly shape the camera without regard to having to be able to get
    > the required four AA batteries into it. I was like you until I realize
    > that having a camera that used AA batteries wasn't that big of a deal.
    > The last hurdle was realizing that I didn't have to buy the manufacturers
    > batteries. There are many after market suppliers of these batteries and
    > their prices are comparable to AA rechargeable


    All true, but will the proprietary battery for a limited production
    camera be availabel in 5 years, or 10? I expect the AA to be available
    pretty much forever.
    Brian, in Cedar
     
    Brian Barnson, Nov 12, 2004
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  12. imbsysop <> writes:

    > .. and all camera manufacturers warn against using battery sets (and
    > they recommend using battery SETS) in mixed environments to prevent
    > that one of the batteries should run out before the others ... with
    > all the pronlems that may cause ..


    There are several issues here. I have at least two sets of rechargeables
    for each device. That avoids the issue of mixing batteries between sets,
    all batteries in the set are recharged as part of the set, and so on.

    Another issue is that I'm in places where I can't recharge batteries. Then
    I switch to non-rechargeable batteries. I buy AAs by the brick, generally
    48 batteries in the brick, same manufacturer, same battery-type. Mixing
    batteries in this situation is not an issue, and I still get to use AAs
    from anyone I can scrounge them from if I still run out.

    Which is a third issue. Almost all my electric stuff runs on AAs. I can
    pull batteries out of one device and use it in another if I'm desparate,
    but I can also beg and borrow AAs from a _lot_ of other people. When all
    else fails there are almost always AAs somewhere to be had.

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  13. Joe-46er

    Ken Weitzel Guest

    Phil Stripling wrote:

    > imbsysop <> writes:
    >
    >
    >>.. and all camera manufacturers warn against using battery sets (and
    >>they recommend using battery SETS) in mixed environments to prevent
    >>that one of the batteries should run out before the others ... with
    >>all the pronlems that may cause ..

    >
    >
    > There are several issues here. I have at least two sets of rechargeables
    > for each device. That avoids the issue of mixing batteries between sets,
    > all batteries in the set are recharged as part of the set, and so on.


    <snip>

    Hi...

    I don't know if it's one of those things that's so
    obvious that others haven't seen it or not, but...

    Each time I buy another set, I mark them as a set
    by wrapping a single turn of colored black plastic
    (electrician's?) tape around each of the set.

    Doesn't take too many colours, the placement of the
    tape also marks them as belonging to each other.
    (at the neg end, postive end, middle, etc)

    Sorry if I'm preaching to the choir :)

    Ken
     
    Ken Weitzel, Nov 12, 2004
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  14. Ken Weitzel <> writes:

    >Each time I buy another set, I mark them as a set
    >by wrapping a single turn of colored black plastic
    >(electrician's?) tape around each of the set.


    So far, I haven't even had to do that. It seems that every time I buy a
    set of NiMH cells, either the manufacturer has changed the label design
    since the previous set from the same manufacturer, or it's a
    manufacturer I haven't purchased from before. So all of my groups of 4
    look different from all the other sets of 4.

    Labelling only becomes an issue when I decide to split a set of 4 into
    two sets of 2.

    Dave
     
    Dave Martindale, Nov 12, 2004
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  15. > Anybody know of any high rez digitals that still take AAs?

    The Canon 20D (8MP DSLR) can use AA cells in its optional grip.

    -Dave
     
    Dave Herzstein, Nov 12, 2004
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  16. Joe-46er

    Joe-46er Guest

    To all who responded: thanks. I'm leaning toward the Casio QV-R51.
    Found it on sale for $240. I was hoping for at least 6 megapixels but
    5 ain't that bad. I do think though that the 9.7MB internal memory is
    farcical.

    Whatya think... if it were you, would you just go with another 5050Z ?
    Another advantage of the Oly was that it took 3 different type of mem
    cards. I also have a matching 2X tele.




    On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 21:03:08 GMT, Joe-46er <> wrote:

    >I think one of the most desirable features of a digital camera whether
    >pro or point and shoot is the use of AA batteries. I loved my Olympus
    >5050Z (until it was stolen) because I could use NiMH and
    >non-rechargeable Lithium-ion AAs. Always had a fresh 4-pak on hand.
    >Pissed me off when the 5060 changed battery format. Now I'm looking
    >for a replacement camera.
    >
    >Anybody know of any high rez digitals that still take AAs?
    >
    >
    >
    >_________________________________
    >
    >"Take a little 5FU, leucovorin and oxaliplatin for thy stomach's sake." -- 1 Timothy 5:23 (adapted)





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    Joe-46er, Nov 12, 2004
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  17. Ken Weitzel <> writes:

    > Each time I buy another set, I mark them as a set
    > by wrapping a single turn of colored black plastic
    > (electrician's?) tape around each of the set.


    Oh, yeah, colored black tape. :->

    I've got too much stuff for that to work for me. I started out that way,
    but I've ended up scotch taping written labels to keep track of what goes
    where.

    (Louise and I are hams, so we have handheld amateur radios, plus GMRS and
    FRS, all running on AAs, flashlights, cameras, and a huge assortment of
    lights and toys at Burning Man where we camp for a week without any power
    other than batteries.)
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    Phil Stripling, Nov 12, 2004
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  18. forme (Charlie Self) writes:

    > Right now, though, I'm sitting her gibbering over the cost of a new
    > battery for a used laptop I bought yesterday: $106 and nothing
    > trustworthy looking of the type showing up on ebay.


    Check http://www.primecell.com/ -- they rebuild batteries, but not one
    particular type which I can't remember. Probably the one you need, of
    course. I've had 2 or 3 rebuilt there, and it was cheaper than even a cheap
    non-factory battery.
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  19. Joe-46er

    Ken Weitzel Guest

    Phil Stripling wrote:
    > Ken Weitzel <> writes:
    >
    >
    >>Each time I buy another set, I mark them as a set
    >>by wrapping a single turn of colored black plastic
    >>(electrician's?) tape around each of the set.

    >
    >
    > Oh, yeah, colored black tape. :->


    Hmmm. Now you got me thinking. Could this
    explain why people always have a confused look
    on their face when I show 'em my color pictures?

    Maybe even why I have to buy lots of black ink, but
    never ever have to buy color? :)

    Ken
     
    Ken Weitzel, Nov 12, 2004
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  20. Joseph Meehan wrote:
    []
    >> Hmmmm.... not really. I haven't found anything recent that could be
    >> called a prosumer camera that doesn't use proprietary Li-ion.

    >
    > Canon 20D w/Battery grip.


    And the Nikon 5000, 5400, 5700, 8700, 8400, 8800 all offer an optional
    battery grip taking AAs.

    David
     
    David J Taylor, Nov 12, 2004
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