Best Vegas settings for DVD video?

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by Brian, May 27, 2011.

  1. Brian

    Brian Guest

    On my first attemp to render a AVCHD 1920 x 1080 video to a suitable
    file for creating a DVD turned out bad.
    I chose the setting "MainConcept AVC/AAC MP4" which took 5 hours to
    render a 25 minute video and resulted in a 168 Meg MP4 file that
    looked like a low quality video when ever the picture panned.

    I'm going to try these settings on my second attend. If there are
    better settings then please advise me.

    MainConcept MPEG-2
    Variable bitrate
    Max video bps 7,000,000
    Avg video bps 6,000,000
    Min video bps 192,000
    Video quality = 31 (Best)
    Output type = DVD
    Width = 1920 (I thought this would have changed when I selected DVD)
    Height = 1080
    I-Frames = 12
    Insert I Frames at markers
    Profile = Main
    Level = Main
    Lower field first

    Once the video has produced a MPG file I'll load it into DVDArchitech
    to create a DVD.

    I could experiment but waiting 5 hours for the file to render each
    time takes time.

    Regards Brian
     
    Brian, May 27, 2011
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  2. Brian

    ushere Guest

    On 27/05/2011 1:27 PM, Brian wrote:
    > On my first attemp to render a AVCHD 1920 x 1080 video to a suitable
    > file for creating a DVD turned out bad.
    > I chose the setting "MainConcept AVC/AAC MP4" which took 5 hours to
    > render a 25 minute video and resulted in a 168 Meg MP4 file that
    > looked like a low quality video when ever the picture panned.
    >
    > I'm going to try these settings on my second attend. If there are
    > better settings then please advise me.
    >
    > MainConcept MPEG-2
    > Variable bitrate
    > Max video bps 7,000,000
    > Avg video bps 6,000,000
    > Min video bps 192,000
    > Video quality = 31 (Best)
    > Output type = DVD
    > Width = 1920 (I thought this would have changed when I selected DVD)
    > Height = 1080
    > I-Frames = 12
    > Insert I Frames at markers
    > Profile = Main
    > Level = Main
    > Lower field first
    >
    > Once the video has produced a MPG file I'll load it into DVDArchitech
    > to create a DVD.
    >
    > I could experiment but waiting 5 hours for the file to render each
    > time takes time.
    >
    > Regards Brian
    >


    sd or hd dvd?

    there's no such thing as a 'hd' dvd. though you can put hd on an a dvd.
     
    ushere, May 27, 2011
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  3. Brian

    Mark Guest

    On Fri, 27 May 2011 15:27:48 +1200, Brian <> wrote:

    >On my first attemp to render a AVCHD 1920 x 1080 video to a suitable
    >file for creating a DVD turned out bad.
    >I chose the setting "MainConcept AVC/AAC MP4" which took 5 hours to
    >render a 25 minute video and resulted in a 168 Meg MP4 file that
    >looked like a low quality video when ever the picture panned.
    >
    >I'm going to try these settings on my second attend. If there are
    >better settings then please advise me.
    >
    >MainConcept MPEG-2
    >Variable bitrate
    >Max video bps 7,000,000
    >Avg video bps 6,000,000
    >Min video bps 192,000
    >Video quality = 31 (Best)
    >Output type = DVD
    >Width = 1920 (I thought this would have changed when I selected DVD)
    >Height = 1080
    >I-Frames = 12
    >Insert I Frames at markers
    >Profile = Main
    >Level = Main
    >Lower field first
    >
    >Once the video has produced a MPG file I'll load it into DVDArchitech
    >to create a DVD.
    >
    >I could experiment but waiting 5 hours for the file to render each
    >time takes time.


    I've found Vegas produces good results with the default settings.
    However you are rendering to a higher resolution that I was (PAL DVDs
    are 720x576). I would guess that 1920x1080 DVDs would not play on
    most DVD players.

    I would suggest either increase the bitrate or lower the resolution.

    If you want to experiment: Edit a few short clips together and render
    this.
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    Mark, May 27, 2011
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    Mike Kujbida Guest

    On 5/26/2011 11:27 PM, Brian wrote:
    > On my first attemp to render a AVCHD 1920 x 1080 video to a suitable
    > file for creating a DVD turned out bad.
    > I chose the setting "MainConcept AVC/AAC MP4" which took 5 hours to
    > render a 25 minute video and resulted in a 168 Meg MP4 file that
    > looked like a low quality video when ever the picture panned.
    >
    > I'm going to try these settings on my second attend. If there are
    > better settings then please advise me.
    >
    > MainConcept MPEG-2
    > Variable bitrate
    > Max video bps 7,000,000
    > Avg video bps 6,000,000
    > Min video bps 192,000
    > Video quality = 31 (Best)
    > Output type = DVD
    > Width = 1920 (I thought this would have changed when I selected DVD)
    > Height = 1080
    > I-Frames = 12
    > Insert I Frames at markers
    > Profile = Main
    > Level = Main
    > Lower field first
    >
    > Once the video has produced a MPG file I'll load it into DVDArchitech
    > to create a DVD.
    >
    > I could experiment but waiting 5 hours for the file to render each
    > time takes time.
    >
    > Regards Brian



    Understand that your DVD will NEVER have the quality that your source
    video does as it's 1/6th of the original resolution.
    Render using the "DVD Architect PAL Widescreen video stream" setting for
    video and AC-3 for you audio as a separate stream.
    Since the video is only 25 min. long, forget about VBR.
    Instead, use a CBR setting of 8,000,000
    Make sure both streams have the same name and get rendered to the same
    folder.
    That way, when you load the video stream into DVD Architect, the audio
    will automatically follow.

    Mike
     
    Mike Kujbida, May 27, 2011
    #4
  5. Brian

    Brian Guest

    Mike Kujbida <> wrote:


    >
    >Understand that your DVD will NEVER have the quality that your source
    >video does as it's 1/6th of the original resolution.
    >Render using the "DVD Architect PAL Widescreen video stream" setting for
    >video and AC-3 for you audio as a separate stream.
    >Since the video is only 25 min. long, forget about VBR.
    >Instead, use a CBR setting of 8,000,000
    >Make sure both streams have the same name and get rendered to the same
    >folder.
    >That way, when you load the video stream into DVD Architect, the audio
    >will automatically follow.
    >
    >Mike


    Why does the audio have to be a seperate stream?

    Regards Brian
     
    Brian, Jul 2, 2011
    #5
  6. Brian

    Mike Kujbida Guest

    On 7/2/2011 1:09 AM, Brian wrote:
    > Mike Kujbida<> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>
    >> Understand that your DVD will NEVER have the quality that your source
    >> video does as it's 1/6th of the original resolution.
    >> Render using the "DVD Architect PAL Widescreen video stream" setting for
    >> video and AC-3 for you audio as a separate stream.
    >> Since the video is only 25 min. long, forget about VBR.
    >> Instead, use a CBR setting of 8,000,000
    >> Make sure both streams have the same name and get rendered to the same
    >> folder.
    >> That way, when you load the video stream into DVD Architect, the audio
    >> will automatically follow.
    >>
    >> Mike

    >
    > Why does the audio have to be a seperate stream?
    >
    > Regards Brian



    If you give DVDA a file that has combined audio and video, it will
    either refuse it or re-encode it causing further quality loss.

    Mike
     
    Mike Kujbida, Jul 2, 2011
    #6
  7. Brian

    Brian Guest

    Mike Kujbida <> wrote:

    >On 7/2/2011 1:09 AM, Brian wrote:
    >> Mike Kujbida<> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>
    >>> Understand that your DVD will NEVER have the quality that your source
    >>> video does as it's 1/6th of the original resolution.
    >>> Render using the "DVD Architect PAL Widescreen video stream" setting for
    >>> video and AC-3 for you audio as a separate stream.
    >>> Since the video is only 25 min. long, forget about VBR.
    >>> Instead, use a CBR setting of 8,000,000
    >>> Make sure both streams have the same name and get rendered to the same
    >>> folder.
    >>> That way, when you load the video stream into DVD Architect, the audio
    >>> will automatically follow.
    >>>
    >>> Mike

    >>
    >> Why does the audio have to be a seperate stream?
    >>
    >> Regards Brian

    >
    >
    >If you give DVDA a file that has combined audio and video, it will
    >either refuse it or re-encode it causing further quality loss.
    >
    >Mike


    I was successful last time I used the settings you suggested when
    compiling the video in Vegas Pro but this time it has created a mpg
    video with no sound.

    Regards Brian
     
    Brian, Jul 2, 2011
    #7
  8. Brian

    Mike Kujbida Guest

    On 7/2/2011 10:19 AM, Brian wrote:
    > Mike Kujbida<> wrote:
    >
    >> On 7/2/2011 1:09 AM, Brian wrote:
    >>> Mike Kujbida<> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Understand that your DVD will NEVER have the quality that your source
    >>>> video does as it's 1/6th of the original resolution.
    >>>> Render using the "DVD Architect PAL Widescreen video stream" setting for
    >>>> video and AC-3 for you audio as a separate stream.
    >>>> Since the video is only 25 min. long, forget about VBR.
    >>>> Instead, use a CBR setting of 8,000,000
    >>>> Make sure both streams have the same name and get rendered to the same
    >>>> folder.
    >>>> That way, when you load the video stream into DVD Architect, the audio
    >>>> will automatically follow.
    >>>>
    >>>> Mike
    >>>
    >>> Why does the audio have to be a seperate stream?
    >>>
    >>> Regards Brian

    >>
    >>
    >> If you give DVDA a file that has combined audio and video, it will
    >> either refuse it or re-encode it causing further quality loss.
    >>
    >> Mike

    >
    > I was successful last time I used the settings you suggested when
    > compiling the video in Vegas Pro but this time it has created a mpg
    > video with no sound.
    >
    > Regards Brian



    Refresh my memory.
    What settings were they?
    My standard recommendation is MPEG-2 and AC-3 streams from Vegas.
    Give both the same name and render to the same folder.
    That way, when you add the MPEG-2 file to DVDA, the AC-3 file
    automatically follows.

    Mike
     
    Mike Kujbida, Jul 2, 2011
    #8
  9. Brian

    Brian Guest

    Mike Kujbida <> wrote:

    >On 7/2/2011 10:19 AM, Brian wrote:
    >> Mike Kujbida<> wrote:
    >>
    >>> On 7/2/2011 1:09 AM, Brian wrote:
    >>>> Mike Kujbida<> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Understand that your DVD will NEVER have the quality that your source
    >>>>> video does as it's 1/6th of the original resolution.
    >>>>> Render using the "DVD Architect PAL Widescreen video stream" setting for
    >>>>> video and AC-3 for you audio as a separate stream.
    >>>>> Since the video is only 25 min. long, forget about VBR.
    >>>>> Instead, use a CBR setting of 8,000,000
    >>>>> Make sure both streams have the same name and get rendered to the same
    >>>>> folder.
    >>>>> That way, when you load the video stream into DVD Architect, the audio
    >>>>> will automatically follow.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Mike
    >>>>
    >>>> Why does the audio have to be a seperate stream?
    >>>>
    >>>> Regards Brian
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> If you give DVDA a file that has combined audio and video, it will
    >>> either refuse it or re-encode it causing further quality loss.
    >>>
    >>> Mike

    >>
    >> I was successful last time I used the settings you suggested when
    >> compiling the video in Vegas Pro but this time it has created a mpg
    >> video with no sound.
    >>
    >> Regards Brian

    >
    >
    >Refresh my memory.
    >What settings were they?
    >My standard recommendation is MPEG-2 and AC-3 streams from Vegas.
    >Give both the same name and render to the same folder.
    >That way, when you add the MPEG-2 file to DVDA, the AC-3 file
    >automatically follows.
    >
    >Mike


    Thanks Mike.

    They were the settings from your older post. see text at the start of
    this post.
    I have a feeling that there is a setting to tell Vegas what sound I'm
    using, which may be my problem.

    Regards Brian
     
    Brian, Jul 3, 2011
    #9
  10. Brian

    Mike Kujbida Guest

    On 7/2/2011 9:23 PM, Brian wrote:
    > Mike Kujbida<> wrote:
    >
    >> On 7/2/2011 10:19 AM, Brian wrote:
    >>> Mike Kujbida<> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On 7/2/2011 1:09 AM, Brian wrote:
    >>>>> Mike Kujbida<> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Understand that your DVD will NEVER have the quality that your source
    >>>>>> video does as it's 1/6th of the original resolution.
    >>>>>> Render using the "DVD Architect PAL Widescreen video stream" setting for
    >>>>>> video and AC-3 for you audio as a separate stream.
    >>>>>> Since the video is only 25 min. long, forget about VBR.
    >>>>>> Instead, use a CBR setting of 8,000,000
    >>>>>> Make sure both streams have the same name and get rendered to the same
    >>>>>> folder.
    >>>>>> That way, when you load the video stream into DVD Architect, the audio
    >>>>>> will automatically follow.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Mike
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Why does the audio have to be a seperate stream?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Regards Brian
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> If you give DVDA a file that has combined audio and video, it will
    >>>> either refuse it or re-encode it causing further quality loss.
    >>>>
    >>>> Mike
    >>>
    >>> I was successful last time I used the settings you suggested when
    >>> compiling the video in Vegas Pro but this time it has created a mpg
    >>> video with no sound.
    >>>
    >>> Regards Brian

    >>
    >>
    >> Refresh my memory.
    >> What settings were they?
    >> My standard recommendation is MPEG-2 and AC-3 streams from Vegas.
    >> Give both the same name and render to the same folder.
    >> That way, when you add the MPEG-2 file to DVDA, the AC-3 file
    >> automatically follows.
    >>
    >> Mike

    >
    > Thanks Mike.
    >
    > They were the settings from your older post. see text at the start of
    > this post.
    > I have a feeling that there is a setting to tell Vegas what sound I'm
    > using, which may be my problem.
    >
    > Regards Brian



    Unless you tell DVDA otherwise (or you've changed it's default
    settings), it should be looking for an AC-3 file instead of a PCM (i.e.
    WAV) file.

    Mike
     
    Mike Kujbida, Jul 3, 2011
    #10
  11. Brian

    Brian Guest

    Mike Kujbida <> wrote:

    >On 7/2/2011 9:23 PM, Brian wrote:
    >> Mike Kujbida<> wrote:
    >>
    >>> On 7/2/2011 10:19 AM, Brian wrote:
    >>>> Mike Kujbida<> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> On 7/2/2011 1:09 AM, Brian wrote:
    >>>>>> Mike Kujbida<> wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Understand that your DVD will NEVER have the quality that your source
    >>>>>>> video does as it's 1/6th of the original resolution.
    >>>>>>> Render using the "DVD Architect PAL Widescreen video stream" setting for
    >>>>>>> video and AC-3 for you audio as a separate stream.
    >>>>>>> Since the video is only 25 min. long, forget about VBR.
    >>>>>>> Instead, use a CBR setting of 8,000,000
    >>>>>>> Make sure both streams have the same name and get rendered to the same
    >>>>>>> folder.
    >>>>>>> That way, when you load the video stream into DVD Architect, the audio
    >>>>>>> will automatically follow.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Mike
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Why does the audio have to be a seperate stream?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Regards Brian
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> If you give DVDA a file that has combined audio and video, it will
    >>>>> either refuse it or re-encode it causing further quality loss.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Mike
    >>>>
    >>>> I was successful last time I used the settings you suggested when
    >>>> compiling the video in Vegas Pro but this time it has created a mpg
    >>>> video with no sound.
    >>>>
    >>>> Regards Brian
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Refresh my memory.
    >>> What settings were they?
    >>> My standard recommendation is MPEG-2 and AC-3 streams from Vegas.
    >>> Give both the same name and render to the same folder.
    >>> That way, when you add the MPEG-2 file to DVDA, the AC-3 file
    >>> automatically follows.
    >>>
    >>> Mike

    >>
    >> Thanks Mike.
    >>
    >> They were the settings from your older post. see text at the start of
    >> this post.
    >> I have a feeling that there is a setting to tell Vegas what sound I'm
    >> using, which may be my problem.
    >>
    >> Regards Brian

    >
    >
    >Unless you tell DVDA otherwise (or you've changed it's default
    >settings), it should be looking for an AC-3 file instead of a PCM (i.e.
    >WAV) file.
    >
    >Mike


    The only setting that seems to work is DVD PAL Seperate streams.

    Regards Brian
     
    Brian, Jul 5, 2011
    #11
  12. Brian

    Mike Kujbida Guest

    On 7/5/2011 2:14 AM, Brian wrote:
    > Mike Kujbida<> wrote:
    >
    >> On 7/2/2011 9:23 PM, Brian wrote:
    >>> Mike Kujbida<> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On 7/2/2011 10:19 AM, Brian wrote:
    >>>>> Mike Kujbida<> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> On 7/2/2011 1:09 AM, Brian wrote:
    >>>>>>> Mike Kujbida<> wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Understand that your DVD will NEVER have the quality that your source
    >>>>>>>> video does as it's 1/6th of the original resolution.
    >>>>>>>> Render using the "DVD Architect PAL Widescreen video stream" setting for
    >>>>>>>> video and AC-3 for you audio as a separate stream.
    >>>>>>>> Since the video is only 25 min. long, forget about VBR.
    >>>>>>>> Instead, use a CBR setting of 8,000,000
    >>>>>>>> Make sure both streams have the same name and get rendered to the same
    >>>>>>>> folder.
    >>>>>>>> That way, when you load the video stream into DVD Architect, the audio
    >>>>>>>> will automatically follow.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Mike
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Why does the audio have to be a seperate stream?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Regards Brian
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> If you give DVDA a file that has combined audio and video, it will
    >>>>>> either refuse it or re-encode it causing further quality loss.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Mike
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I was successful last time I used the settings you suggested when
    >>>>> compiling the video in Vegas Pro but this time it has created a mpg
    >>>>> video with no sound.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Regards Brian
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Refresh my memory.
    >>>> What settings were they?
    >>>> My standard recommendation is MPEG-2 and AC-3 streams from Vegas.
    >>>> Give both the same name and render to the same folder.
    >>>> That way, when you add the MPEG-2 file to DVDA, the AC-3 file
    >>>> automatically follows.
    >>>>
    >>>> Mike
    >>>
    >>> Thanks Mike.
    >>>
    >>> They were the settings from your older post. see text at the start of
    >>> this post.
    >>> I have a feeling that there is a setting to tell Vegas what sound I'm
    >>> using, which may be my problem.
    >>>
    >>> Regards Brian

    >>
    >>
    >> Unless you tell DVDA otherwise (or you've changed it's default
    >> settings), it should be looking for an AC-3 file instead of a PCM (i.e.
    >> WAV) file.
    >>
    >> Mike

    >
    > The only setting that seems to work is DVD PAL Seperate streams.
    >
    > Regards Brian



    That's what DVDA is expecting to see.

    Mike
     
    Mike Kujbida, Jul 5, 2011
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