Chimping reaches epic and epidemic proportions!

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by Rita Ä Berkowitz, Feb 2, 2007.

  1. Yes, it was a sight to see this morning during a news briefing at the
    Pentagon. Most of the PJs there were chimping like they just fell of a
    truck carrying 20,000 pounds of bananas. I'm not sure why this was
    happening, but it was funny as hell and I shook my head in disbelief. These
    guys know better. Is this a new trend? Would immunizing your LCD with
    black electrical tape cure chimping? I did notice most chimpers were Canon
    shooters. For Christ's sake it's not like they are at the Superbowl.
    There's no reason for all this chimping!







    Rita
     
    Rita Ä Berkowitz, Feb 2, 2007
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    Jim Redelfs Guest

    In article <>,
    Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote:

    > There's no reason for all this chimping!


    Agreed.

    I have my LCD display set to retire 4 seconds after a shot. Still, I rarely
    look at it after taking a shot. Why bother? It's digital. Take several and,
    hopefully, one will be "the one", probably after not a little post-processing
    on a ~21-inch computer display. What are they hoping to see, anyway?

    I have always LOVED the term, "chimping", though. It's probably the most
    accurate - and funny - description of a (sadly) widely-practiced photographic
    activity.
    --
    :)
    JR

    Canon EOS 20D
     
    Jim Redelfs, Feb 3, 2007
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    Matt Clara Guest

    "Jim Redelfs" <> wrote in message
    news:-media.com...
    > In article <>,
    > Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote:
    >
    >> There's no reason for all this chimping!

    >
    > Agreed.
    >
    > I have my LCD display set to retire 4 seconds after a shot. Still, I
    > rarely
    > look at it after taking a shot. Why bother? It's digital.


    Because it's a tool unavailable to film that allows a photographer to see
    what he or she is getting immediately instead of waiting for the film to get
    back. Now, if lighting isn't changing, and they keep checking over and
    over, that's unnecesary, but technically chimping is showing everybody the
    lcd and going ooh, ooh,ooh, which isn't what you're talking about.

    Those idiots who insist that looking at the lcd is always a stupid thing are
    just that, fucking idiots. Really. Morons. You don't get digital at all.
     
    Matt Clara, Feb 3, 2007
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  4. "Rita Ä Berkowitz" <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote in message
    news:...
    : Yes, it was a sight to see this morning during a news briefing at the
    : Pentagon. Most of the PJs there were chimping like they just fell of a
    : truck carrying 20,000 pounds of bananas. I'm not sure why this was
    : happening, but it was funny as hell and I shook my head in disbelief.
    These
    : guys know better. Is this a new trend? Would immunizing your LCD with
    : black electrical tape cure chimping? I did notice most chimpers were
    Canon
    : shooters. For Christ's sake it's not like they are at the Superbowl.
    : There's no reason for all this chimping!
    :
    :
    : Rita
    :
    It's all the cheep cheep cameras these chumps have.
     
    Doug MacDonald, Feb 3, 2007
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  5. "Matt Clara" <> wrote in message
    news:eek:...
    :
    : "Jim Redelfs" <> wrote in message
    : news:-media.com...
    : > In article <>,
    : > Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote:
    : >
    : >> There's no reason for all this chimping!
    : >
    : > Agreed.
    : >
    : > I have my LCD display set to retire 4 seconds after a shot. Still, I
    : > rarely
    : > look at it after taking a shot. Why bother? It's digital.
    :
    : Because it's a tool unavailable to film that allows a photographer to see
    : what he or she is getting immediately instead of waiting for the film to
    get
    : back. Now, if lighting isn't changing, and they keep checking over and
    : over, that's unnecesary, but technically chimping is showing everybody the
    : lcd and going ooh, ooh,ooh, which isn't what you're talking about.
    :
    : Those idiots who insist that looking at the lcd is always a stupid thing
    are
    : just that, fucking idiots. Really. Morons. You don't get digital at
    all.
    :

    Figured out yet how to see the histogram in the viewfinder?
     
    Doug MacDonald, Feb 3, 2007
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  6. Rita Ä Berkowitz wrote:
    >Yes, it was a sight to see this morning during a news briefing at the
    >Pentagon. Most of the PJs there were chimping like they just fell of a
    >truck carrying 20,000 pounds of bananas.


    Yes, so stupid

    I am a cameraman and sometimes I have to cover news...one occation was a
    luncheon speech at the local chamber of commerce..One person speaking at a
    podium..
    four photogs...ten shots with flash...chimping..ten more shots...chimpimg...
    the hole speech!!
    Needless to say the newsfootage was pretty "flashy" and useless...Good old
    film days there would have been two or three shots and off to the next
    assignement..
    Oh yeah, next say there was one picture in the paper....

    --
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    http://www.photokb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/photo-digital-slr/200702/1
     
    Benny via PhotoKB.com, Feb 3, 2007
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    Mark² Guest

    Jim Redelfs wrote:
    > In article <>,
    > Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote:
    >
    >> There's no reason for all this chimping!

    >
    > Agreed.
    >
    > I have my LCD display set to retire 4 seconds after a shot. Still, I
    > rarely look at it after taking a shot. Why bother? It's digital.
    > Take several and, hopefully, one will be "the one", probably after
    > not a little post-processing on a ~21-inch computer display. What
    > are they hoping to see, anyway?
    >
    > I have always LOVED the term, "chimping", though. It's probably the
    > most accurate - and funny - description of a (sadly) widely-practiced
    > photographic activity.


    A glance at the histogram is nothing to scoff at.
    Histograms are perhaps the most powerful in-the-field tool for analysing
    exposure and scene properties.
    Those who cling to this notion that it is somehow an automatic sign of
    something negative are kidding themselves, and really ought to reconsider
    what tools they choose to throw away.

    --
    Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at:
    www.pbase.com/markuson
     
    Mark², Feb 3, 2007
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    Mark² Guest

    Benny via PhotoKB.com wrote:
    > Rita Ä Berkowitz wrote:
    >> Yes, it was a sight to see this morning during a news briefing at the
    >> Pentagon. Most of the PJs there were chimping like they just fell
    >> of a truck carrying 20,000 pounds of bananas.

    >
    > Yes, so stupid
    >
    > I am a cameraman and sometimes I have to cover news...one occation
    > was a luncheon speech at the local chamber of commerce..One person
    > speaking at a podium..
    > four photogs...ten shots with flash...chimping..ten more
    > shots...chimpimg... the hole speech!!


    I'd agree that this is pretty lame. Once you've checked your settings via
    histogram...and when nothing changes in the lighting...there's little reason
    to keep checking.

    > Needless to say the newsfootage was pretty "flashy" and
    > useless...Good old film days there would have been two or three shots
    > and off to the next assignement..
    > Oh yeah, next say there was one picture in the paper....


    --
    Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at:
    www.pbase.com/markuson
     
    Mark², Feb 3, 2007
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    Tony Polson Guest

    On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 20:35:59 -0800, "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even
    number here)@cox..net> wrote:
    >Jim Redelfs wrote:
    >> I have always LOVED the term, "chimping", though. It's probably the
    >> most accurate - and funny - description of a (sadly) widely-practiced
    >> photographic activity.

    >
    >A glance at the histogram is nothing to scoff at.
    >Histograms are perhaps the most powerful in-the-field tool for analysing
    >exposure and scene properties.
    >Those who cling to this notion that it is somehow an automatic sign of
    >something negative are kidding themselves, and really ought to reconsider
    >what tools they choose to throw away.



    Wise words, Mark.

    The problem is that some cannot see their way past a means of
    ridiculing other people to the value that those tools offer them.
     
    Tony Polson, Feb 3, 2007
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    Bill Funk Guest

    On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 04:07:10 GMT, "Benny via PhotoKB.com" <u18046@uwe>
    wrote:

    >Rita Ä Berkowitz wrote:
    >>Yes, it was a sight to see this morning during a news briefing at the
    >>Pentagon. Most of the PJs there were chimping like they just fell of a
    >>truck carrying 20,000 pounds of bananas.

    >
    >Yes, so stupid
    >
    >I am a cameraman and sometimes I have to cover news...one occation was a
    >luncheon speech at the local chamber of commerce..One person speaking at a
    >podium..
    >four photogs...ten shots with flash...chimping..ten more shots...chimpimg...
    >the hole speech!!
    >Needless to say the newsfootage was pretty "flashy" and useless...Good old
    >film days there would have been two or three shots and off to the next
    >assignement..


    I remember the film days, and there were just as many flashes back
    then, too.
    >Oh yeah, next say there was one picture in the paper....


    --
    The New York Yankees signed a
    deal with China Monday to expand
    baseball into the world's largest
    nation. The people of China meet
    the first test of what it takes
    to be great baseball fans. They
    are not fussy at all about what
    goes into a hot dog.
     
    Bill Funk, Feb 3, 2007
    #10
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    Ken Lucke Guest

    In article <HiUwh.6189$>, Mark² < here)@cox..net>
    wrote:

    > Jim Redelfs wrote:
    > > In article <>,
    > > Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote:
    > >
    > >> There's no reason for all this chimping!

    > >
    > > Agreed.
    > >
    > > I have my LCD display set to retire 4 seconds after a shot. Still, I
    > > rarely look at it after taking a shot. Why bother? It's digital.
    > > Take several and, hopefully, one will be "the one", probably after
    > > not a little post-processing on a ~21-inch computer display. What
    > > are they hoping to see, anyway?
    > >
    > > I have always LOVED the term, "chimping", though. It's probably the
    > > most accurate - and funny - description of a (sadly) widely-practiced
    > > photographic activity.

    >
    > A glance at the histogram is nothing to scoff at.
    > Histograms are perhaps the most powerful in-the-field tool for analysing
    > exposure and scene properties.
    > Those who cling to this notion that it is somehow an automatic sign of
    > something negative are kidding themselves, and really ought to reconsider
    > what tools they choose to throw away.


    Hell, man, 'dem damn new-fangled light meters they done come out with
    'long time ago were bad 'nuff. Damn newfangled jury-rigged gaj'ets -
    an'one who uses 'dem ain't no real photographer... jes' damn stupid,
    iffen ya'll ask me.

    --
    You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a
    reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating
    the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for
    independence.
    -- Charles A. Beard
     
    Ken Lucke, Feb 3, 2007
    #11
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    RichA Guest

    On Feb 2, 7:43 pm, Jim Redelfs <> wrote:
    > In article <>,
    > Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote:
    >
    > > There's no reason for all this chimping!

    >
    > Agreed.
    >
    > I have my LCD display set to retire 4 seconds after a shot. Still, I rarely
    > look at it after taking a shot. Why bother? It's digital. Take severaland,
    > hopefully, one will be "the one", probably after not a little post-processing
    > on a ~21-inch computer display. What are they hoping to see, anyway?


    I fail to see the "moral" difference between looking at a shot on an
    LCD and machine-gunning to get one decent shot.
     
    RichA, Feb 3, 2007
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  13. Rita Ä Berkowitz <> wrote:

    [PJs chimping]
    > I did notice most chimpers were Canon shooters.


    Since most PJs use Canon, most chimpers will be Canon shooters,
    even if Nikon shooters were to chimp twice as often per person.

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Feb 17, 2007
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    C J Campbell Guest

    On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 15:28:39 -0800, Rita Ä Berkowitz wrote
    (in article <>):

    > Yes, it was a sight to see this morning during a news briefing at the
    > Pentagon.
    > There's no reason for all this chimping!
    >


    Why not? What's wrong with it? Sounds like a personal problem.

    DSLRs have LCDs for a reason. If you don't like yours, don't look at it. But
    don't pretend that there is no use for occasionally checking to see if camera
    settings are what you thought they were or if you are actually getting the
    shots you wanted, especially if you are getting paid for it.

    Besides, you are misusing "chimping," which really is where everyone gathers
    around the LCD going Ooh-Ooh! It is fun, harmless, and a great social
    activity.

    So get a life already, instead of worrying about what other people do with
    their cameras. It is none of your business anyway.

    --
    Waddling Eagle
    World Famous Flight Instructor
     
    C J Campbell, Feb 18, 2007
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    C J Campbell Guest

    On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 10:25:17 -0800, RichA wrote
    (in article <>):

    > On Feb 2, 7:43 pm, Jim Redelfs <> wrote:
    >> In article <>,
    >> Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>> There's no reason for all this chimping!

    >>
    >> Agreed.
    >>
    >> I have my LCD display set to retire 4 seconds after a shot. Still, I rarely
    >> look at it after taking a shot. Why bother? It's digital. Take several
    >> and,
    >> hopefully, one will be "the one", probably after not a little
    >> post-processing
    >> on a ~21-inch computer display. What are they hoping to see, anyway?

    >
    > I fail to see the "moral" difference between looking at a shot on an
    > LCD and machine-gunning to get one decent shot.
    >


    Actually, looking once in awhile is probably far more effective than
    machine-gunning 30 badly exposed frames without knowing about it. Or never
    checking about it because you were worried that Rita B. might think you were
    "chimping." So who's the chimp, anyway? The guy looking at his camera or the
    monkey jumping up and down, pointing and screeching at nothing?

    --
    Waddling Eagle
    World Famous Flight Instructor
     
    C J Campbell, Feb 18, 2007
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    C J Campbell Guest

    On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 20:07:10 -0800, Benny via PhotoKB.com wrote
    (in article <6d3c2f99f1151@uwe>):

    > Rita Ä Berkowitz wrote:
    >> Yes, it was a sight to see this morning during a news briefing at the
    >> Pentagon. Most of the PJs there were chimping like they just fell of a
    >> truck carrying 20,000 pounds of bananas.

    >
    > Yes, so stupid
    >
    > I am a cameraman and sometimes I have to cover news...one occation was a
    > luncheon speech at the local chamber of commerce..One person speaking at a
    > podium..
    > four photogs...ten shots with flash...chimping..ten more shots...chimpimg...
    > the hole speech!!
    > Needless to say the newsfootage was pretty "flashy" and useless...Good old
    > film days there would have been two or three shots and off to the next
    > assignement..
    > Oh yeah, next say there was one picture in the paper....
    >
    >


    So your problem is not with chimping, but with constantly shooting the same
    frame over and over. Trouble is, that fleeting expression on someone's face
    might be just what the boss is looking for. If you miss it, and the other
    paper gets it, you could be looking for another job. Especially if your only
    excuse was that you didn't want Rita B. and Benny to think you were stupid.

    --
    Waddling Eagle
    World Famous Flight Instructor
     
    C J Campbell, Feb 18, 2007
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    C J Campbell Guest

    On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 09:41:52 -0800, Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote
    (in article <>):

    > Rita Ä Berkowitz <> wrote:
    >
    > [PJs chimping]
    >> I did notice most chimpers were Canon shooters.

    >
    > Since most PJs use Canon, most chimpers will be Canon shooters,
    > even if Nikon shooters were to chimp twice as often per person.
    >
    > -Wolfgang


    Wrong vowel. Canon users are chumps, not chimps. :)

    --
    Waddling Eagle
    World Famous Flight Instructor
     
    C J Campbell, Feb 18, 2007
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    jack Guest

    jack, Feb 19, 2007
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    Guy Guest

    Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
    > Rita Ä Berkowitz <> wrote:
    >
    > [PJs chimping]
    >> I did notice most chimpers were Canon shooters.

    >
    > Since most PJs use Canon, most chimpers will be Canon shooters,
    > even if Nikon shooters were to chimp twice as often per person.
    >
    > -Wolfgang



    Ooo logic, how dare you. :)
     
    Guy, Feb 20, 2007
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