How to edit a .MOV file on Windows?

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by frank@franklarosa.com, Apr 30, 2006.

  1. Guest

    Hi,

    I have a Kodak digital camera which also records short video clips. The
    videos are stored in a Quicktime format (*.MOV file) by the camera.

    Like most people, I use Windows, not Macintosh. I can open these videos
    with Quicktime player, but all I can do is play them - I can't edit
    them, compress them, or save them in other formats.

    Kodak told me I should buy Apple's video editing software - I checked
    into this option, but their software only runs on a Macintosh.

    I have Windows Movie Maker on my PC, but it won't open a Quicktime
    file.

    I need either (a) some kind of video editing software for Windows that
    can handle this file, or (b) some kind of utility that can convert it
    to something I can use with Windows Movie Maker.

    I've heard that Adobe Premier will do it, but that costs hundreds of
    dollars and seems like something for professionals - I'm just an
    average guy who wants to cut out a piece of video and send it to my
    friends on the internet. I'm willing to spend a few dollars if I have
    to, but I'm not interested in investing in a video editing studio.

    Can anyone recommend a product that can help me?

    Thanks,
    Frank

    PS. Why on earth would a company like Kodak choose to have its default
    format be something that's only usable by, what is it, the 3% of people
    who still use Apple computers? If I'd known that before I bought the
    camera I'd probably have gotten something else.
     
    , Apr 30, 2006
    #1
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  2. Ken Maltby Guest

    <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hi,
    >
    > I have a Kodak digital camera which also records short video clips. The
    > videos are stored in a Quicktime format (*.MOV file) by the camera.
    >
    > Like most people, I use Windows, not Macintosh. I can open these videos
    > with Quicktime player, but all I can do is play them - I can't edit
    > them, compress them, or save them in other formats.
    >
    > Kodak told me I should buy Apple's video editing software - I checked
    > into this option, but their software only runs on a Macintosh.
    >
    > I have Windows Movie Maker on my PC, but it won't open a Quicktime
    > file.
    >
    > I need either (a) some kind of video editing software for Windows that
    > can handle this file, or (b) some kind of utility that can convert it
    > to something I can use with Windows Movie Maker.
    >
    > I've heard that Adobe Premier will do it, but that costs hundreds of
    > dollars and seems like something for professionals - I'm just an
    > average guy who wants to cut out a piece of video and send it to my
    > friends on the internet. I'm willing to spend a few dollars if I have
    > to, but I'm not interested in investing in a video editing studio.
    >
    > Can anyone recommend a product that can help me?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Frank
    >
    > PS. Why on earth would a company like Kodak choose to have its default
    > format be something that's only usable by, what is it, the 3% of people
    > who still use Apple computers? If I'd known that before I bought the
    > camera I'd probably have gotten something else.
    >


    Froogle "Magix Video Deluxe 2.0 Plus"

    Luck;
    Ken
     
    Ken Maltby, Apr 30, 2006
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  3. Martin Guest

    <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hi,
    >
    > I have a Kodak digital camera which also records short video clips. The
    > videos are stored in a Quicktime format (*.MOV file) by the camera.
    >
    > Like most people, I use Windows, not Macintosh. I can open these videos
    > with Quicktime player, but all I can do is play them - I can't edit
    > them, compress them, or save them in other formats.
    >
    > Kodak told me I should buy Apple's video editing software - I checked
    > into this option, but their software only runs on a Macintosh.
    >
    > I have Windows Movie Maker on my PC, but it won't open a Quicktime
    > file.
    >
    > I need either (a) some kind of video editing software for Windows that
    > can handle this file, or (b) some kind of utility that can convert it
    > to something I can use with Windows Movie Maker.
    >
    > I've heard that Adobe Premier will do it, but that costs hundreds of
    > dollars and seems like something for professionals - I'm just an
    > average guy who wants to cut out a piece of video and send it to my
    > friends on the internet. I'm willing to spend a few dollars if I have
    > to, but I'm not interested in investing in a video editing studio.
    >
    > Can anyone recommend a product that can help me?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Frank
    >
    > PS. Why on earth would a company like Kodak choose to have its default
    > format be something that's only usable by, what is it, the 3% of people
    > who still use Apple computers? If I'd known that before I bought the
    > camera I'd probably have gotten something else.
    >


    Look at EO Video from:
    http://www.eo-video.com/
    EO Video is trialware - 30day trial.

    Alternatively for a freeware solution there's RAD Video Tools from:
    http://www.radgametools.com/bnkdown.htm

    Both of these utilities will convert Quicktime's MOV format to other more
    easily editable formats such as AVI.

    Martin.
     
    Martin, Apr 30, 2006
    #3
  4. On 29 Apr 2006 20:20:33 -0700, wrote:

    >Can anyone recommend a product that can help me?


    On top of all the other suggestion, you can also upgrade your Quicktime to
    Quicktime Pro. You can export to all kind of other formats, and do some
    very simple editing

    cheers

    -martin-
    --
    Never be afraid to try something new.
    Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark.
    A large group of professionals built the Titanic.

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    Martin Heffels, Apr 30, 2006
    #4
  5. Rus Guest

    wrote in news:1146367233.331864.177930
    @y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

    > Hi,
    >
    > I have a Kodak digital camera which also records short video clips. The
    > videos are stored in a Quicktime format (*.MOV file) by the camera.
    >
    > Like most people, I use Windows, not Macintosh. I can open these videos
    > with Quicktime player, but all I can do is play them - I can't edit
    > them, compress them, or save them in other formats.
    >
    > Kodak told me I should buy Apple's video editing software - I checked
    > into this option, but their software only runs on a Macintosh.
    >
    > I have Windows Movie Maker on my PC, but it won't open a Quicktime
    > file.
    >
    > I need either (a) some kind of video editing software for Windows that
    > can handle this file, or (b) some kind of utility that can convert it
    > to something I can use with Windows Movie Maker.
    >
    > Can anyone recommend a product that can help me?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Frank
    >
    > PS. Why on earth would a company like Kodak choose to have its default
    > format be something that's only usable by, what is it, the 3% of people
    > who still use Apple computers? If I'd known that before I bought the
    > camera I'd probably have gotten something else.
    >


    My Nikon camera uses the *.mov format also. I've got some software that's
    reporting the files as MJPEG (Motion JPEG).

    One of these days, when I have the time, I'm going to dig through my files
    and find some MJPEG codecs to install on my computer. I'm wondering if I'll
    be able to use VirtualDub for editing?

    Maybe rename the fourcc and rename the extension to *.avi to use in
    VirtualDub?

    I dunno. Anyway, in the meantime, I've been converting those Nikon *.mov
    files to DVD/VOB-iso using TMPGEnc (Tsunami MPEG Encoder) and it works fine.
    I'm not sure that Tsunami natively supports *.mov. It might be the case that
    I had to install a VFAPI plug-in to gain support for the *.mov files.

    //rus\\
     
    Rus, Apr 30, 2006
    #5
  6. Ken Maltby Guest

    "Rus" <> wrote in message
    news:Xns97B5A1E56BE7F98270982304987102398@204.127.199.17...
    > wrote in news:1146367233.331864.177930
    > @y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
    >
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> I have a Kodak digital camera which also records short video clips. The
    >> videos are stored in a Quicktime format (*.MOV file) by the camera.
    >>
    >> Like most people, I use Windows, not Macintosh. I can open these videos
    >> with Quicktime player, but all I can do is play them - I can't edit
    >> them, compress them, or save them in other formats.
    >>
    >> Kodak told me I should buy Apple's video editing software - I checked
    >> into this option, but their software only runs on a Macintosh.
    >>
    >> I have Windows Movie Maker on my PC, but it won't open a Quicktime
    >> file.
    >>
    >> I need either (a) some kind of video editing software for Windows that
    >> can handle this file, or (b) some kind of utility that can convert it
    >> to something I can use with Windows Movie Maker.
    >>
    >> Can anyone recommend a product that can help me?
    >>
    >> Thanks,
    >> Frank
    >>
    >> PS. Why on earth would a company like Kodak choose to have its default
    >> format be something that's only usable by, what is it, the 3% of people
    >> who still use Apple computers? If I'd known that before I bought the
    >> camera I'd probably have gotten something else.
    >>

    >
    > My Nikon camera uses the *.mov format also. I've got some software that's
    > reporting the files as MJPEG (Motion JPEG).
    >
    > One of these days, when I have the time, I'm going to dig through my files
    > and find some MJPEG codecs to install on my computer. I'm wondering if
    > I'll
    > be able to use VirtualDub for editing?
    >
    > Maybe rename the fourcc and rename the extension to *.avi to use in
    > VirtualDub?
    >
    > I dunno. Anyway, in the meantime, I've been converting those Nikon *.mov
    > files to DVD/VOB-iso using TMPGEnc (Tsunami MPEG Encoder) and it works
    > fine.
    > I'm not sure that Tsunami natively supports *.mov. It might be the case
    > that
    > I had to install a VFAPI plug-in to gain support for the *.mov files.
    >
    > //rus\\


    The 3.0 Xpress Encoder supports .mov, but 2.5 would require a plug-in.
    I'm not sure what the "Tsunami" (www.tmpg-inc.com) branded encoder is,
    but I think it is more like the Pegasys TMPGEnc 3.0 Xpress Encoder.

    Luck;
    Ken
     
    Ken Maltby, Apr 30, 2006
    #6
  7. Mike Kujbida Guest

    Rus wrote:
    > snip <
    > One of these days, when I have the time, I'm going to dig through my
    > files and find some MJPEG codecs to install on my computer.



    Try any of the following MJPEG codecs.
    Morgan Multimedia at http://tinyurl.com/re4gd ($20)
    MainConcept at http://tinyurl.com/zdt59 ($19)
    Midvid JPEG Video Codec 1.0 at http://tinyurl.com/bflty (free)


    > I'm wondering if I'll be able to use VirtualDub for editing?


    I installed the Morgan Multimedia codec and it works there for me.


    Mike
     
    Mike Kujbida, Apr 30, 2006
    #7
  8. Rus Guest

    "Ken Maltby" <> wrote in
    news::

    > I'm not sure what the "Tsunami" (www.tmpg-inc.com) branded encoder is,
    > but I think it is more like the Pegasys TMPGEnc 3.0 Xpress Encoder.
    >
    > Luck;
    > Ken
    >
    >


    Before there was Pegasys Inc there was Tsunami. Tsunami = Pegasys-inc.com

    The T in TMPGEnc = Tsunami

    All praise to the MPEG master: Hiroyuki Hori

    see http://www.tmpgenc.net

    //rus\\
     
    Rus, May 1, 2006
    #8
  9. Ken Maltby Guest

    "Rus" <> wrote in message
    news:Xns97B5DFF71D4D298270982304987102398@216.148.227.77...
    > "Ken Maltby" <> wrote in
    > news::
    >
    >> I'm not sure what the "Tsunami" (www.tmpg-inc.com) branded encoder is,
    >> but I think it is more like the Pegasys TMPGEnc 3.0 Xpress Encoder.
    >>
    >> Luck;
    >> Ken
    >>
    >> ( You had to snip the one line from my post that mentions the 2.5

    Encoder.)
    >
    > Before there was Pegasys Inc there was Tsunami. Tsunami = Pegasys-inc.com
    >
    > The T in TMPGEnc = Tsunami
    >
    > All praise to the MPEG master: Hiroyuki Hori
    >

    Without a doubt!

    > see http://www.tmpgenc.net
    >


    So you are referring to the free 2.5 version, and you would then
    need a plugin.
    /Ken

    > //rus\\
     
    Ken Maltby, May 1, 2006
    #9
  10. Alpha Guest

    "Rus" <> wrote in message
    news:Xns97B5DFF71D4D298270982304987102398@216.148.227.77...
    > "Ken Maltby" <> wrote in
    > news::
    >
    >> I'm not sure what the "Tsunami" (www.tmpg-inc.com) branded encoder is,
    >> but I think it is more like the Pegasys TMPGEnc 3.0 Xpress Encoder.
    >>
    >> Luck;
    >> Ken
    >>
    >>

    >
    > Before there was Pegasys Inc there was Tsunami. Tsunami = Pegasys-inc.com
    >
    > The T in TMPGEnc = Tsunami
    >
    > All praise to the MPEG master: Hiroyuki Hori



    If he can ever learn what a 'track' is, and how to structure a program
    interface.
     
    Alpha, May 1, 2006
    #10
  11. Kill Bill Guest

    wrote:


    > PS. Why on earth would a company like Kodak choose to have its default
    > format be something that's only usable by, what is it, the 3% of people
    > who still use Apple computers? If I'd known that before I bought the
    > camera I'd probably have gotten something else.


    Gee.. let me see.

    Option 1) .mov (Quicktime) - A format that's currently supported and
    actively developed by Apple.

    Option 2) .avi (Microsoft) - A format that was invented by MS, but
    dropped and no longer supported by MS since windows 3.11

    Option 3) .wmv (Microsoft) - A format that was invented by MS, that is
    closed and proprietary to MS only..

    humm.. Option 1 sounds good too me.

    -bill
     
    Kill Bill, May 2, 2006
    #11
  12. > Option 2) .avi (Microsoft) - A format that was invented by MS, but
    > dropped and no longer supported by MS since windows 3.11


    "dropped and no longer supported"?
    Are you from a different universe?
    Most of us reading this newsgroup are from the
    Milky Way galaxy, the Solar system and the
    Planet Earth to be specific. Sorry to hear about
    your alternate reality.
     
    Richard Crowley, May 2, 2006
    #12
  13. Kill Bill Guest

    Richard Crowley wrote:
    >> Option 2) .avi (Microsoft) - A format that was invented by MS, but
    >> dropped and no longer supported by MS since windows 3.11

    >
    >
    > "dropped and no longer supported"?
    > Are you from a different universe?
    > Most of us reading this newsgroup are from the
    > Milky Way galaxy, the Solar system and the
    > Planet Earth to be specific. Sorry to hear about
    > your alternate reality.


    Hello.. McFly, are you in their? Yes, Microsoft drop and no longer
    supports AVI.. To prove your point, all you would have to do is show me
    one link from the microsoft website showing development of AVI.. you
    can't because it was stopped.

    That doesn't mean though that lots and lots of other 3rd part utilities
    exist that don't support AVI as a container.

    So, yes.. repeat. MS is no longer developing AVI.

    -bill
     
    Kill Bill, May 2, 2006
    #13
  14. "Kill Bill" wrote ...
    > Hello.. McFly, are you in their? Yes, Microsoft drop and no longer
    > supports AVI.. To prove your point, all you would have to do is show
    > me one link from the microsoft website showing development of AVI..
    > you can't because it was stopped.
    >
    > That doesn't mean though that lots and lots of other 3rd part
    > utilities exist that don't support AVI as a container.
    >
    > So, yes.. repeat. MS is no longer developing AVI.


    What kind of "development" do you think AVI is enjoying?
    Since it is an open-source container format (actually a form
    of RIFF file) and was developed *before* Microsoft started
    supporting it. Of course it is well supported as a native
    format in all current (and recent) MS products on this planet.
    My condolences for what is happening in your universe, Biff.
     
    Richard Crowley, May 2, 2006
    #14
  15. Kill Bill Guest

    Richard Crowley wrote:
    > "Kill Bill" wrote ...
    >
    >> Hello.. McFly, are you in their? Yes, Microsoft drop and no longer
    >> supports AVI.. To prove your point, all you would have to do is show
    >> me one link from the microsoft website showing development of AVI..
    >> you can't because it was stopped.
    >>
    >> That doesn't mean though that lots and lots of other 3rd part
    >> utilities exist that don't support AVI as a container.
    >>
    >> So, yes.. repeat. MS is no longer developing AVI.

    >
    >
    > What kind of "development" do you think AVI is enjoying?
    > Since it is an open-source container format (actually a form
    > of RIFF file) and was developed *before* Microsoft started
    > supporting it. Of course it is well supported as a native
    > format in all current (and recent) MS products on this planet.
    > My condolences for what is happening in your universe, Biff.


    Open source??? If you can prove this, please provide a link. I'll
    assume that you can not back up your claim of current development on
    AVI, because you still haven't provided a single url still.

    Where as, QuickTime is still an ongoing development of Apple as a
    container format like AVI. And, if your too stupid to figure out where
    the development web pages are for QT, I can give you a link for that.

    -bill
     
    Kill Bill, May 2, 2006
    #15
  16. "Kill Bill" <> wrote in message
    news:A6K5g.60759$...
    > Richard Crowley wrote:
    >> "Kill Bill" wrote ...
    >>
    >>> Hello.. McFly, are you in their? Yes, Microsoft drop and no longer
    >>> supports AVI.. To prove your point, all you would have to do is show
    >>> me one link from the microsoft website showing development of AVI..
    >>> you can't because it was stopped.
    >>>
    >>> That doesn't mean though that lots and lots of other 3rd part
    >>> utilities exist that don't support AVI as a container.
    >>>
    >>> So, yes.. repeat. MS is no longer developing AVI.

    >>
    >>
    >> What kind of "development" do you think AVI is enjoying?
    >> Since it is an open-source container format (actually a form
    >> of RIFF file) and was developed *before* Microsoft started
    >> supporting it. Of course it is well supported as a native
    >> format in all current (and recent) MS products on this planet.
    >> My condolences for what is happening in your universe, Biff.

    >
    > Open source??? If you can prove this, please provide a link. I'll
    > assume that you can not back up your claim of current development on
    > AVI, because you still haven't provided a single url still.


    Have you discovered "Google"? it really is marvelous!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVI

    "AVI, an acronym for Audio Video Interleave, is a multimedia container
    format introduced by Microsoft in November 1992, as part of the Video
    for Windows technology. AVI files contain both audio and video data in a
    standard container that allows simultaneous playback. Like DVDs, AVI
    files support multiple audio and video streams, although these features
    are rarely used. Most AVI files also use the file format extensions
    developed by the Matrox OpenDML group in February 1996. These files are
    supported by Microsoft, and are known unofficially as "AVI 2.0"."
     
    Richard Crowley, May 2, 2006
    #16
  17. RS Guest

    Kill Bill wrote:
    > Richard Crowley wrote:
    >
    >>> Option 2) .avi (Microsoft) - A format that was invented by MS, but
    >>> dropped and no longer supported by MS since windows 3.11

    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> "dropped and no longer supported"?
    >> Are you from a different universe?
    >> Most of us reading this newsgroup are from the
    >> Milky Way galaxy, the Solar system and the
    >> Planet Earth to be specific. Sorry to hear about
    >> your alternate reality.

    >
    >
    > Hello.. McFly, are you in their? Yes, Microsoft drop and no longer
    > supports AVI.. To prove your point, all you would have to do is show me
    > one link from the microsoft website showing development of AVI.. you
    > can't because it was stopped.
    >
    > That doesn't mean though that lots and lots of other 3rd part utilities
    > exist that don't support AVI as a container.


    Ahhhhh, third party utilties that support Avi as a
    containier.....yes....I see now.....Hmmmm let me search out the third
    party utilities that support MOV as a container.....still
    searching.....still searching..........continuing to search.......


    > So, yes.. repeat. MS is no longer developing AVI.
    >
    > -bill
     
    RS, May 2, 2006
    #17
  18. Kill Bill Guest

    Richard Crowley wrote:


    >
    > Have you discovered "Google"? it really is marvelous!
    >
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVI
    >
    > "AVI, an acronym for Audio Video Interleave, is a multimedia container
    > format introduced by Microsoft in November 1992, as part of the Video
    > for Windows technology. AVI files contain both audio and video data in a
    > standard container that allows simultaneous playback. Like DVDs, AVI
    > files support multiple audio and video streams, although these features
    > are rarely used. Most AVI files also use the file format extensions
    > developed by the Matrox OpenDML group in February 1996. These files are
    > supported by Microsoft, and are known unofficially as "AVI 2.0"."


    ROTFL. This one is classic. You provide me a link that clearly states
    my argument, about AVI not being developed anymore..

    "Continued use despite obsolescence. AVI is considered by many to be an
    outdated container format..."

    Anymore brilliant links that you want to grace this forum with?? hahaha

    I think I know what the problem is,.. you seem to be mixed up between
    the words, "development" and "supported", and you think they mean the
    same thing..

    -bill
     
    Kill Bill, May 3, 2006
    #18
  19. "Kill Bill" wrote ...
    > I think I know what the problem is,.. you seem to be mixed up between
    > the words, "development" and "supported", and you think they mean the
    > same thing..


    OK, how many times do I have to ask before you answer my question?...
    "What kind of "development" do you think AVI is enjoying?"
    Still doesn't apper that you are posting from the same universe
    as the rest of us.
     
    Richard Crowley, May 3, 2006
    #19
  20. RS Guest

    Kill Bill wrote:
    > Richard Crowley wrote:
    >
    >> "Kill Bill" wrote ...
    >>
    >>> Hello.. McFly, are you in their? Yes, Microsoft drop and no longer
    >>> supports AVI.. To prove your point, all you would have to do is show
    >>> me one link from the microsoft website showing development of AVI..
    >>> you can't because it was stopped.
    >>>
    >>> That doesn't mean though that lots and lots of other 3rd part
    >>> utilities exist that don't support AVI as a container.
    >>>
    >>> So, yes.. repeat. MS is no longer developing AVI.

    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> What kind of "development" do you think AVI is enjoying?
    >> Since it is an open-source container format (actually a form
    >> of RIFF file) and was developed *before* Microsoft started
    >> supporting it. Of course it is well supported as a native
    >> format in all current (and recent) MS products on this planet.
    >> My condolences for what is happening in your universe, Biff.

    >
    >
    > Open source??? If you can prove this, please provide a link. I'll
    > assume that you can not back up your claim of current development on
    > AVI, because you still haven't provided a single url still.
    >
    > Where as, QuickTime is still an ongoing development of Apple as a
    > container format like AVI. And, if your too stupid to figure out where
    > the development web pages are for QT, I can give you a link for that.
    >
    > -bill


    Searching........more searching.....a bit of rummaging now........
     
    RS, May 3, 2006
    #20
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