ISO 100 and Nikons

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by Bryon Lape, Oct 4, 2008.

  1. Bryon Lape

    Bryon Lape Guest

    Nikon seems to have given up on the ISO 100 setting as native in their
    sensors. The D80 has such a setting, but none of the second generation
    cameras do. Why is that?
     
    Bryon Lape, Oct 4, 2008
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    Peter Guest

    "Bryon Lape" <> wrote in message
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    > Nikon seems to have given up on the ISO 100 setting as native in their
    > sensors. The D80 has such a setting, but none of the second generation
    > cameras do. Why is that?



    On the D300 & 700 you certainly can set the ISO lower by using the "L"
    settings.

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    Peter, Oct 4, 2008
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  3. Bryon Lape wrote:

    > Nikon seems to have given up on the ISO 100 setting as native in their
    > sensors. The D80 has such a setting, but none of the second generation
    > cameras do. Why is that?


    What are the second generation cameras, Bryon?

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    Blinky the Shark, Oct 4, 2008
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    tony cooper Guest

    On Sat, 04 Oct 2008 12:00:16 -0700, Blinky the Shark
    <> wrote:

    >Bryon Lape wrote:
    >
    >> Nikon seems to have given up on the ISO 100 setting as native in their
    >> sensors. The D80 has such a setting, but none of the second generation
    >> cameras do. Why is that?

    >
    >What are the second generation cameras, Bryon?


    Nikon, Jr., Canon, Jr., and Pentax, Jr.


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    tony cooper, Oct 4, 2008
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  5. tony cooper wrote:

    > On Sat, 04 Oct 2008 12:00:16 -0700, Blinky the Shark
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >>Bryon Lape wrote:
    >>
    >>> Nikon seems to have given up on the ISO 100 setting as native in their
    >>> sensors. The D80 has such a setting, but none of the second generation
    >>> cameras do. Why is that?

    >>
    >>What are the second generation cameras, Bryon?

    >
    > Nikon, Jr., Canon, Jr., and Pentax, Jr.


    I am enlightened!

    Endarkened.

    One of the two!


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    Frank Arthur Guest

    "Bryon Lape" <> wrote in message
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    > Nikon seems to have given up on the ISO 100 setting as native in
    > their
    > sensors. The D80 has such a setting, but none of the second
    > generation
    > cameras do. Why is that?


    Probably because it is not neccessary. If there is no benefit of
    optimum noise level by reducing the ISO number, why do it? In the case
    of film a lower ISO number usually meant finer grain images. The
    finest grain film may have been about ISO 25.
     
    Frank Arthur, Oct 5, 2008
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  7. Bryon Lape

    Bryon Lape Guest

    Blinky the Shark <> wrote in
    news:p:

    > Bryon Lape wrote:
    >
    >> Nikon seems to have given up on the ISO 100 setting as native in their
    >> sensors. The D80 has such a setting, but none of the second generation
    >> cameras do. Why is that?

    >
    > What are the second generation cameras, Bryon?
    >


    Nikon's new line: D3, D300, D700, D90
     
    Bryon Lape, Oct 5, 2008
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  8. Bryon Lape wrote:

    > Blinky the Shark <> wrote in
    > news:p:
    >
    >> Bryon Lape wrote:
    >>
    >>> Nikon seems to have given up on the ISO 100 setting as native in their
    >>> sensors. The D80 has such a setting, but none of the second generation
    >>> cameras do. Why is that?

    >>
    >> What are the second generation cameras, Bryon?
    >>

    >
    > Nikon's new line: D3, D300, D700, D90


    Thanks, Bryon.

    What generation are the D40/D40x/D60?


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    Pete D Guest

    "Frank Arthur" <> wrote in message
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    > "Bryon Lape" <> wrote in message
    > news:Xns9B2D891F147CFNoPoster@192.168.1.1...
    >> Nikon seems to have given up on the ISO 100 setting as native in their
    >> sensors. The D80 has such a setting, but none of the second generation
    >> cameras do. Why is that?

    >
    > Probably because it is not neccessary. If there is no benefit of optimum
    > noise level by reducing the ISO number, why do it? In the case of film a
    > lower ISO number usually meant finer grain images. The finest grain film
    > may have been about ISO 25.
    >


    Are you a total nong?

    Have you never actually taken a photograph that needed slow shutter speeds?
     
    Pete D, Oct 6, 2008
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  10. Bryon Lape

    Pete D Guest

    "Paul Cassel" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Bryon Lape wrote:
    >> Nikon seems to have given up on the ISO 100 setting as native in their
    >> sensors. The D80 has such a setting, but none of the second generation
    >> cameras do. Why is that?

    >
    > You may as well ask why there is no ISO 25 to emulate classic Kodachrome.
    > I'd speculate that Nikon believes that the few who wish long shutter
    > speeds or wide open apatures have ND filters a plenty.


    I dream of photographing with an ND400 filter, bloody marvelous effects.
     
    Pete D, Oct 6, 2008
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    Robert Coe Guest

    On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 19:05:37 -0400, "Frank Arthur" <> wrote:
    :
    : "Bryon Lape" <> wrote in message
    : news:Xns9B2D891F147CFNoPoster@192.168.1.1...
    : > Nikon seems to have given up on the ISO 100 setting as native in
    : > their
    : > sensors. The D80 has such a setting, but none of the second
    : > generation
    : > cameras do. Why is that?
    :
    : Probably because it is not neccessary. If there is no benefit
    : of optimum noise level by reducing the ISO number, why do it?
    : In the case of film a lower ISO number usually meant finer
    : grain images. The finest grain film may have been about ISO 25.

    IIRC, we used to shoot even Panatomic-X at 100.

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Oct 8, 2008
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  12. Bryon Lape

    Bryon Lape Guest

    "Pete D" <> wrote in
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    > "Frank Arthur" <> wrote in message
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    >>
    >> "Bryon Lape" <> wrote in message
    >> news:Xns9B2D891F147CFNoPoster@192.168.1.1...
    >>> Nikon seems to have given up on the ISO 100 setting as native in
    >>> their sensors. The D80 has such a setting, but none of the second
    >>> generation cameras do. Why is that?

    >>
    >> Probably because it is not neccessary. If there is no benefit of
    >> optimum noise level by reducing the ISO number, why do it? In the
    >> case of film a lower ISO number usually meant finer grain images. The
    >> finest grain film may have been about ISO 25.
    >>

    >
    > Are you a total nong?
    >
    > Have you never actually taken a photograph that needed slow shutter
    > speeds?
    >
    >



    Agreed. There are many times I wish I could go lower than my D80's 100
    ASA... I mean ISO... :)
     
    Bryon Lape, Oct 8, 2008
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    Bryon Lape Guest

    "Pete D" <> wrote in
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    >
    > "Paul Cassel" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> Bryon Lape wrote:
    >>> Nikon seems to have given up on the ISO 100 setting as native in
    >>> their sensors. The D80 has such a setting, but none of the second
    >>> generation cameras do. Why is that?

    >>
    >> You may as well ask why there is no ISO 25 to emulate classic
    >> Kodachrome. I'd speculate that Nikon believes that the few who wish
    >> long shutter speeds or wide open apatures have ND filters a plenty.

    >
    > I dream of photographing with an ND400 filter, bloody marvelous
    > effects.
    >



    What is that?? About 12 stops?
     
    Bryon Lape, Oct 8, 2008
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    Mark Thomas Guest

    Bryon Lape wrote:
    > "Pete D" <> wrote in
    > news:48e9e34f$0$22579$:
    >
    >> "Paul Cassel" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>> Bryon Lape wrote:
    >>>> Nikon seems to have given up on the ISO 100 setting as native in
    >>>> their sensors. The D80 has such a setting, but none of the second
    >>>> generation cameras do. Why is that?
    >>> You may as well ask why there is no ISO 25 to emulate classic
    >>> Kodachrome. I'd speculate that Nikon believes that the few who wish
    >>> long shutter speeds or wide open apatures have ND filters a plenty.

    >> I dream of photographing with an ND400 filter, bloody marvelous
    >> effects.
    >>

    >
    >
    > What is that?? About 12 stops?


    9, I think.

    I should know, I have one, just haven't used it for some time and am too
    lazy to get it out and check. It's day *will* come...
     
    Mark Thomas, Oct 8, 2008
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    Paul Furman Guest

    Bryon Lape wrote:
    > Nikon seems to have given up on the ISO 100 setting as native in their
    > sensors. The D80 has such a setting, but none of the second generation
    > cameras do. Why is that?


    Newer models are optimized for high ISO. The D500 has a faked ISO 100.

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    Paul Furman, Oct 9, 2008
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    Robert Coe Guest

    On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 12:50:02 -0600, Paul Cassel
    <> wrote:
    : Robert Coe wrote:
    :
    : > IIRC, we used to shoot even Panatomic-X at 100.
    : >
    : Why? Why not just use Plus X?

    Because Panatomic-X had finer grain.

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Oct 10, 2008
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    Peter Guest

    "Paul Furman" <> wrote in message
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    > Bryon Lape wrote:
    >> Nikon seems to have given up on the ISO 100 setting as native in their
    >> sensors. The D80 has such a setting, but none of the second generation
    >> cameras do. Why is that?

    >
    > Newer models are optimized for high ISO. The D500 has a faked ISO 100.
    >



    At first I thought your reference was a typo. Didn't know the D500 was
    released.

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    Peter, Oct 10, 2008
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  18. Bryon Lape

    Paul Furman Guest

    Peter wrote:
    > "Paul Furman" <> wrote in message
    > news:spuHk.3129$...
    >> Bryon Lape wrote:
    >>> Nikon seems to have given up on the ISO 100 setting as native in
    >>> their sensors. The D80 has such a setting, but none of the second
    >>> generation cameras do. Why is that?

    >>
    >> Newer models are optimized for high ISO. The D500 has a faked ISO 100.
    >>

    >
    >
    > At first I thought your reference was a typo. Didn't know the D500 was
    > released.


    Oops, I meant D700,.
    Is there a D500 announcement?
     
    Paul Furman, Oct 10, 2008
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  19. Robert Coe wrote:

    > On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 12:50:02 -0600, Paul Cassel
    > <> wrote:
    > : Robert Coe wrote:
    > :
    > : > IIRC, we used to shoot even Panatomic-X at 100.
    > : >
    > : Why? Why not just use Plus X?
    >
    > Because Panatomic-X had finer grain.


    I've been gonna ask; this is a good place:

    Even when pushed to 100?


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    Peter Guest

    "Paul Furman" <> wrote in message
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    > Peter wrote:
    >> "Paul Furman" <> wrote in message
    >> news:spuHk.3129$...
    >>> Bryon Lape wrote:
    >>>> Nikon seems to have given up on the ISO 100 setting as native in their
    >>>> sensors. The D80 has such a setting, but none of the second generation
    >>>> cameras do. Why is that?
    >>>
    >>> Newer models are optimized for high ISO. The D500 has a faked ISO 100.
    >>>

    >>
    >>
    >> At first I thought your reference was a typo. Didn't know the D500 was
    >> released.

    >
    > Oops, I meant D700,.
    > Is there a D500 announcement?



    I posted my answer because the same thing was repeated so I did a quick
    Google and came up with this:

    http://insidetheshutter.com/blog/?p=380





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    Peter, Oct 10, 2008
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