Newbie, need tutorial recommendation

Discussion in 'Photoshop' started by Mustang Concepts, Jan 10, 2004.

  1. Hi, I'm new, totally. I have Photoshop 7, but no manual. I'd like to
    know is there somewhere online that has step by step instruction for a
    total novice ? I really want to learn this, but if have several other
    time demands.
    Thanks,
    Daryl
    Mustang Concepts, Jan 10, 2004
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    Voivod Guest

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:27:51 -0600, Mustang Concepts
    <> scribbled:

    >Hi, I'm new, totally. I have Photoshop 7, but no manual. I'd like to
    >know is there somewhere online that has step by step instruction for a
    >total novice ? I really want to learn this, but if have several other
    >time demands.


    Step 1: Go to www.adobe.com
    Step 2: BUY a legitimate copy of Photoshop
    Step 3: Read the manual you just paid for.
    Voivod, Jan 10, 2004
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    David H Guest

    Voivod wrote:

    > On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:27:51 -0600, Mustang Concepts
    > <> scribbled:
    >
    > >Hi, I'm new, totally. I have Photoshop 7, but no manual. I'd like to
    > >know is there somewhere online that has step by step instruction for a
    > >total novice ? I really want to learn this, but if have several other
    > >time demands.

    >
    > Step 1: Go to www.adobe.com
    > Step 2: BUY a legitimate copy of Photoshop
    > Step 3: Read the manual you just paid for.


    And after that, then go buy a book or two. There are literally hundreds
    to choose from.

    -david

    -----------------------------
    Looking for a book on Adobe Photoshop?
    Check out the Photoshop Zone with in-depth reviews and information on
    hundreds of different Photoshop books at: http://www.photoshopzone.com
    David H, Jan 11, 2004
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    Hecate Guest

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:27:51 -0600, Mustang Concepts
    <> wrote:

    >Hi, I'm new, totally. I have Photoshop 7, but no manual. I'd like to
    >know is there somewhere online that has step by step instruction for a
    >total novice ? I really want to learn this, but if have several other
    >time demands.
    >Thanks,
    >Daryl


    Take the box back to where you purchased it. There should be a manual
    in the box.

    Alternatively, hit F1.

    --

    Hecate

    veni, vidi, reliqui
    Hecate, Jan 11, 2004
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    mscir Guest

    David H wrote:

    > Voivod wrote:
    >
    >
    >>On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:27:51 -0600, Mustang Concepts
    >><> scribbled:
    >>
    >>
    >>>Hi, I'm new, totally. I have Photoshop 7, but no manual. I'd like to
    >>>know is there somewhere online that has step by step instruction for a
    >>>total novice ? I really want to learn this, but if have several other
    >>>time demands.

    >>
    >>Step 1: Go to www.adobe.com
    >>Step 2: BUY a legitimate copy of Photoshop
    >>Step 3: Read the manual you just paid for.

    >
    >
    > And after that, then go buy a book or two. There are literally hundreds
    > to choose from.
    >
    > -david


    You might check your local Library for Photoshop books.

    I like this site for beginner tutorials:

    http://graphicssoft.about.com/library/course/bllps5out.htm

    Mike
    mscir, Jan 11, 2004
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    Clive Guest

    Have a look at www,myjanee.com for some of the best Photoshop tutorials
    around.


    "David H" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Voivod wrote:
    >
    > > On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:27:51 -0600, Mustang Concepts
    > > <> scribbled:
    > >
    > > >Hi, I'm new, totally. I have Photoshop 7, but no manual. I'd like to
    > > >know is there somewhere online that has step by step instruction for a
    > > >total novice ? I really want to learn this, but if have several other
    > > >time demands.

    > >
    > > Step 1: Go to www.adobe.com
    > > Step 2: BUY a legitimate copy of Photoshop
    > > Step 3: Read the manual you just paid for.

    >
    > And after that, then go buy a book or two. There are literally hundreds
    > to choose from.
    >
    > -david
    >
    > -----------------------------
    > Looking for a book on Adobe Photoshop?
    > Check out the Photoshop Zone with in-depth reviews and information on
    > hundreds of different Photoshop books at: http://www.photoshopzone.com
    >
    >
    Clive, Jan 11, 2004
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    mdavis Guest

    The manual, for those who have bothered to read it, is identical, word for
    word, with the help files in the program itself. It is all but worthless as
    a "tutorial" for newbies. The request was a legitimate one, I think.
    mdavis, Jan 11, 2004
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    Voivod Guest

    On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 13:57:58 GMT, "mdavis" <>
    scribbled:

    >The manual, for those who have bothered to read it, is identical, word for
    >word, with the help files in the program itself. It is all but worthless as
    >a "tutorial" for newbies. The request was a legitimate one, I think.


    Right, so share your explanation how he could have
    a copy of the program without having the manual.
    Voivod, Jan 11, 2004
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    jrzyguy Guest

    Do check out myjanee.com and search around for other web sits as well.
    Adobe Classroom in a Book is a pretty good (basic, but kinda dry) book to
    start with, Photoshop WOW is a bit better of a "read"

    Now as far as if this person actually purchased PS7 i could give a rats
    butt. Its a damn expensive, totally over priced (but great) program. If a
    person is a newbie (as i was several years ago) the might not want to plunk
    down all that money for something that they might not ever use, or use that
    much. After all...there are quite a few cheaper options out there, albeit
    minus the real power of PS. Down the road, perhaps this newbie will actualy
    go out and buy a legit version that comes with all the free downloads and
    updates etc.

    Oh...and btw newbie....if/when you do buy a legit version of PS...throw the
    damn MANUAL away. (however, you might find use for it as either a cat box
    liner or you could perhaps shred it and use it as packaging material).


    "Voivod" <> wrote in message
    news:iso200pmdimmbbn8u8i93moq0t1e47fvth@news-server...
    > On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 13:57:58 GMT, "mdavis" <>
    > scribbled:
    >
    > >The manual, for those who have bothered to read it, is identical, word

    for
    > >word, with the help files in the program itself. It is all but worthless

    as
    > >a "tutorial" for newbies. The request was a legitimate one, I think.

    >
    > Right, so share your explanation how he could have
    > a copy of the program without having the manual.
    >
    >
    jrzyguy, Jan 11, 2004
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    Voivod Guest

    On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 10:26:25 -0500, "jrzyguy" <>
    scribbled:

    >Do check out myjanee.com and search around for other web sits as well.


    Why should I? I'm in no need of tutorials and if I were
    I know where to find them.

    >Adobe Classroom in a Book is a pretty good (basic, but kinda dry) book to
    >start with, Photoshop WOW is a bit better of a "read"
    >
    >Now as far as if this person actually purchased PS7 i could give a rats
    >butt. Its a damn expensive, totally over priced (but great) program. If a


    I couldn't care less about what you could give a rats ass about.

    >person is a newbie (as i was several years ago) the might not want to plunk
    >down all that money for something that they might not ever use, or use that


    Then they should try the trail version or seek a lower cost (read; Paint
    Shop Pro) or free (read; The Gimp) instead of stealing.

    >much. After all...there are quite a few cheaper options out there, albeit
    >minus the real power of PS. Down the road, perhaps this newbie will actualy
    >go out and buy a legit version that comes with all the free downloads and
    >updates etc.


    Irrelevant, possible good intentions in the future are no excuse to
    steal now.

    >Oh...and btw newbie....if/when you do buy a legit version of PS...throw the
    >damn MANUAL away. (however, you might find use for it as either a cat box
    >liner or you could perhaps shred it and use it as packaging material).


    Or read it, and learn enough not to ask stupid questions.
    Voivod, Jan 11, 2004
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    jrzyguy Guest

    "Voivod" <> wrote in message
    news:bi13001s79m94geik5o62k9nugpagn3p62@news-server...
    > On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 10:26:25 -0500, "jrzyguy" <>
    > scribbled:
    >
    > >Do check out myjanee.com and search around for other web sits as well.

    >
    > Why should I? I'm in no need of tutorials and if I were
    > I know where to find them.
    >
    > >Adobe Classroom in a Book is a pretty good (basic, but kinda dry) book to
    > >start with, Photoshop WOW is a bit better of a "read"
    > >
    > >Now as far as if this person actually purchased PS7 i could give a rats
    > >butt. Its a damn expensive, totally over priced (but great) program. If

    a
    >
    > I couldn't care less about what you could give a rats ass about.
    >
    > >person is a newbie (as i was several years ago) the might not want to

    plunk
    > >down all that money for something that they might not ever use, or use

    that
    >
    > Then they should try the trail version or seek a lower cost (read; Paint
    > Shop Pro) or free (read; The Gimp) instead of stealing.
    >
    > >much. After all...there are quite a few cheaper options out there,

    albeit
    > >minus the real power of PS. Down the road, perhaps this newbie will

    actualy
    > >go out and buy a legit version that comes with all the free downloads and
    > >updates etc.

    >
    > Irrelevant, possible good intentions in the future are no excuse to
    > steal now.
    >
    > >Oh...and btw newbie....if/when you do buy a legit version of PS...throw

    the
    > >damn MANUAL away. (however, you might find use for it as either a cat

    box
    > >liner or you could perhaps shred it and use it as packaging material).

    >
    > Or read it, and learn enough not to ask stupid questions.
    >
    jrzyguy, Jan 11, 2004
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    jrzyguy Guest

    Eh...u just sound bitter cuz you probably paid full price.

    Next time newbie.....perhaps you should phrase your question like this to
    satisfy the PC police in here.

    "i have read the manual and help files and they are absolutely of no use.
    They are poorly written with no clear cut examples for everyday use. Can
    someone please point me in the right direction for some good on-line
    tutorials or books i could buy".

    Oh...Newbie....if you are in the NYC area...you can find the books that i
    have mentioned being sold on the street (canal street, 7th ave, etc) for a
    fraction of what you would pay in a book store.

    now ...back to the case of trying out illegitimate version of programs. I
    have legit versions of Flash & Director (v.5 & v.8). Someone sent me the
    cd's for both MX versions when they came out...and after poking around a bit
    i realized that there was no reason to purchase the upgrades (at this
    point). I still continue using my older (and legit) version even tho i have
    full access to the newer versions.

    And as far as Adobe's 30 day demos are concerned...they are a not very
    useful. You cant save your work and come back to it a day later and
    continue exploring the project one was working on. Indeed...if i were able
    to have full trial versions (like say macromedia allows) with save feature
    intact....then i might be looking at things like go-live and other products.




    "Voivod" <> wrote in message
    news:bi13001s79m94geik5o62k9nugpagn3p62@news-server...
    > On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 10:26:25 -0500, "jrzyguy" <>
    > scribbled:
    >
    > >Do check out myjanee.com and search around for other web sits as well.

    >
    > Why should I? I'm in no need of tutorials and if I were
    > I know where to find them.
    >
    > >Adobe Classroom in a Book is a pretty good (basic, but kinda dry) book to
    > >start with, Photoshop WOW is a bit better of a "read"
    > >
    > >Now as far as if this person actually purchased PS7 i could give a rats
    > >butt. Its a damn expensive, totally over priced (but great) program. If

    a
    >
    > I couldn't care less about what you could give a rats ass about.
    >
    > >person is a newbie (as i was several years ago) the might not want to

    plunk
    > >down all that money for something that they might not ever use, or use

    that
    >
    > Then they should try the trail version or seek a lower cost (read; Paint
    > Shop Pro) or free (read; The Gimp) instead of stealing.
    >
    > >much. After all...there are quite a few cheaper options out there,

    albeit
    > >minus the real power of PS. Down the road, perhaps this newbie will

    actualy
    > >go out and buy a legit version that comes with all the free downloads and
    > >updates etc.

    >
    > Irrelevant, possible good intentions in the future are no excuse to
    > steal now.
    >
    > >Oh...and btw newbie....if/when you do buy a legit version of PS...throw

    the
    > >damn MANUAL away. (however, you might find use for it as either a cat

    box
    > >liner or you could perhaps shred it and use it as packaging material).

    >
    > Or read it, and learn enough not to ask stupid questions.
    >
    jrzyguy, Jan 11, 2004
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    jrzyguy Guest

    One more thing....and just a suggestion in case any of ya'll work for adobe.

    I think soundforge is a good example of a free demo for an expenisive (but
    worth the price) program.

    With their demo you can fully save your work etc....however...you do not
    have access to all the advance features all the time. You are given a
    choice when you start the program to choose 3 or 4 major features that you
    would like to use. IF you want to use other major features you have to save
    your work, restart the program and then check THOSE other features. This
    way, you are able to experience the full functionality of the
    program....however..if you are like me and dont want to have to exit the
    program every time you want to access a different feature....you just might
    end up spending the money and buying the damn thing for 600 bucks (if you
    have it).

    So....my final 2 points to this thread are...Adobe should reconsider how
    they offer their demos and stop being so uptight (as they clearly hold the
    maket edge with this particular product).

    and to newbie....if you ARE going to <cough cough> "sample" a
    program...THINK before your post so we dont have to listed to the self
    righteous police here.
    jrzyguy, Jan 11, 2004
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    Voivod Guest

    On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 13:04:56 -0500, "jrzyguy" <>
    scribbled:

    >Eh...u just sound bitter cuz you probably paid full price.


    I only 'sound' bitter because you're just another in a long
    line of thieves trying to justify their theft by crying about
    prices.
    Voivod, Jan 11, 2004
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    mdavis Guest

    Yes, it may be a pirated copy. But it may not be. Site licenses are not
    uncommon. Educational institutions may teach only parts of the program in a
    given semester, and there aren't manuals to go around. I teach in such an
    environment.

    Self-appointed forum police assume everyone is guilty until proven innocent.
    It's just the opposite in my country.

    Forget the flames, there will be no response this thread.
    mdavis, Jan 11, 2004
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    Voivod Guest

    On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 20:30:18 GMT, "mdavis" <>
    scribbled:

    >Forget the flames, there will be no response this thread.


    I do ever so love cowards who run in, spout off some idiotic
    nonsense and then flee with their tails between their legs.
    Voivod, Jan 11, 2004
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    Alan Guest

    "Voivod" <> wrote in message
    news:ki7300l17pa66nbrcoredt1v3eh6ithpdg@news-server...
    > On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 13:04:56 -0500, "jrzyguy" <>
    > scribbled:
    >
    > >Eh...u just sound bitter cuz you probably paid full price.

    >
    > I only 'sound' bitter because you're just another in a long
    > line of thieves trying to justify their theft by crying about
    > prices.
    >

    Lets not forget that Voviod (Burger Boy) by his own admission is a thief, of
    a burger from his employer no less. Theft from an employer, immediate jail
    sentence
    Alan, Jan 11, 2004
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    Voivod Guest

    On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:32:24 +0000 (UTC), "Alan" <>
    scribbled:

    >Lets not forget


    That you're a moron obsessed with a non-issue that you've
    made up? You hardly let anyone forget that.
    Voivod, Jan 11, 2004
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    jrzyguy Guest

    Ugh..i hate to be baited here by a disgruntled idiot.....but if you have
    read my posts...i have stated that i do have full and legit PS7 here at
    home...bought and paid for by myself. I happen to have a decent job and can
    afford it.....however there are people who can not afford such a hefty price
    tag....or who are just starting out.

    and actualy....poor newbie never said if he had the manual or not. (not that
    having the manual is an effective tool to actualy LEARNING photoshop).

    anyhoo...you are just full of a lot of hot air and obviously too much time
    on your hands..

    ciao,
    jj
    "Voivod" <> wrote in message
    news:ki7300l17pa66nbrcoredt1v3eh6ithpdg@news-server...
    > On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 13:04:56 -0500, "jrzyguy" <>
    > scribbled:
    >
    > >Eh...u just sound bitter cuz you probably paid full price.

    >
    > I only 'sound' bitter because you're just another in a long
    > line of thieves trying to justify their theft by crying about
    > prices.
    >
    >
    >
    jrzyguy, Jan 12, 2004
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    Hecate Guest

    On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 13:57:58 GMT, "mdavis" <>
    wrote:

    >The manual, for those who have bothered to read it, is identical, word for
    >word, with the help files in the program itself. It is all but worthless as
    >a "tutorial" for newbies. The request was a legitimate one, I think.
    >

    Except that he should have a copy of it...

    There are shed loads of tutorials on the Net if he bothers to Google,
    and he could do a lot worse than buy a copy of the Visual Quick Start
    Guide.

    I agree about the manual, but I find that true of most manuals :)

    --

    Hecate

    veni, vidi, reliqui
    Hecate, Jan 12, 2004
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