Nikon D700x expected announcement date Dec 20

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by Tony the insider, Nov 15, 2008.

  1. The expected announcement date for the D700x is Dec. 20. D700x has
    everything the D700 has, except the shooting rate at full resolution.
    The sensor is 24+ MP - while Nikon isn't officially admitting this,
    it is the one used in the Sony alpha-900. The D700 will be officially
    discontinued then, as by shooting at 12 MP the D700x will match its
    burst speed so the D700 is redundant. Price is a big question but
    expect the USD price to be well above that of the D700.
    Personally, I am surprised, I expected first a D3x aka D4. Given that
    the high-dollar market is with the Hassies, EOS-1DS MkIII and the 37
    MP Leica vaporcam, and the global downturn, perhaps Tokyo decided that
    sector is overcrowded?
    Any event, D700 was just as good as the D3 in construction, only speed
    was a difference. Did I forget to say D700x has the 25.6K ISO setting?
    Source of the news is 100% reliable, my buddy in Nikon Japan. Read
    more on http://nikonrumors.com when they eventually wake up. :)
    Tony (Nikon fan since the S3)
    Tony the insider, Nov 15, 2008
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  2. Tony the insider

    Me Here Guest

    "RichA" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Nikon needs to step up more. 40 megapixels on a 45mm sensor.
    >

    Why, then they would have to get a new lens system.
    Me Here, Nov 15, 2008
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    Paul Furman Guest

    Tony the insider wrote:
    > The expected announcement date for the D700x is Dec. 20. D700x has
    > everything the D700 has, except the shooting rate at full resolution.
    > The sensor is 24+ MP - while Nikon isn't officially admitting this,
    > it is the one used in the Sony alpha-900. The D700 will be officially
    > discontinued then, as by shooting at 12 MP the D700x will match its
    > burst speed so the D700 is redundant.


    Would that be a DX crop mode or resample?


    > Price is a big question but
    > expect the USD price to be well above that of the D700.


    Sounds more like a replacement for the D3 than the D700.


    > Personally, I am surprised, I expected first a D3x aka D4. Given that
    > the high-dollar market is with the Hassies, EOS-1DS MkIII and the 37
    > MP Leica vaporcam, and the global downturn, perhaps Tokyo decided that
    > sector is overcrowded?
    > Any event, D700 was just as good as the D3 in construction, only speed
    > was a difference. Did I forget to say D700x has the 25.6K ISO setting?
    > Source of the news is 100% reliable, my buddy in Nikon Japan. Read
    > more on http://nikonrumors.com when they eventually wake up. :)
    > Tony (Nikon fan since the S3)


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  4. Tony the insider

    .. Guest

    Nikon D700x another Nikon upgrade?

    Nikon brings out a new DSLR only to update it 6 months later. The D700 has
    not be available that long and now they are discontinuing it and replacing
    it with an upgrade, D700X. They did the same with the D40X introduced it and
    then 4 months later discontinued it.
    I was looking at a D90 but if there is a chance it could be discontinued in
    6 months maybe I should wait?
    .., Nov 16, 2008
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  5. Tony the insider

    N Guest

    Re: Nikon D700x another Nikon upgrade?

    ".." <> wrote in message
    news:GLMTk.1784$...
    > Nikon brings out a new DSLR only to update it 6 months later. The D700 has
    > not be available that long and now they are discontinuing it and replacing
    > it with an upgrade, D700X. They did the same with the D40X introduced it
    > and
    > then 4 months later discontinued it.
    > I was looking at a D90 but if there is a chance it could be discontinued
    > in
    > 6 months maybe I should wait?
    >
    >
    >



    Do you use the same logic when buying clothes or a car?
    N, Nov 16, 2008
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  6. Tony the insider

    SMS Guest

    Re: Nikon D700x another Nikon upgrade?

    ... wrote:
    > Nikon brings out a new DSLR only to update it 6 months later. The D700 has
    > not be available that long and now they are discontinuing it and replacing
    > it with an upgrade, D700X. They did the same with the D40X introduced it and
    > then 4 months later discontinued it.
    > I was looking at a D90 but if there is a chance it could be discontinued in
    > 6 months maybe I should wait?


    Because of the 5D Mark II, Nikon needs to rush out a rev to the D700 or
    risk losing a lot of new body sales, and a lot of long term lens sales.

    Most new models are merely evolutionary, but the 5D Mark II, despite
    it's name, is revolutionary. Similarly, they need a new prosumer model
    to (catch up with the 50D), since the D300 is a year old already.

    The D90 is likely not going to be upgraded too soon as it's got the
    video advantage over its Canon XSi competition. It's Canon that needs to
    rush out an upgrade to the XSi that adds video.
    SMS, Nov 16, 2008
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  7. Tony the insider

    nospam Guest

    Re: Nikon D700x another Nikon upgrade?

    In article <GLMTk.1784$>, .. <>
    wrote:

    > Nikon brings out a new DSLR only to update it 6 months later. The D700 has
    > not be available that long and now they are discontinuing it and replacing
    > it with an upgrade, D700X.


    where in the world did you get that idea?

    > They did the same with the D40X introduced it and
    > then 4 months later discontinued it.


    wrong again. the d40x was sold alongside the d40.

    > I was looking at a D90 but if there is a chance it could be discontinued in
    > 6 months maybe I should wait?


    buy a camera that fits your needs. it will be replaced at some point.
    nospam, Nov 16, 2008
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  8. Tony the insider

    nospam Guest

    Re: Nikon D700x another Nikon upgrade?

    In article <uQMTk.11734$>, SMS
    <> wrote:

    > Because of the 5D Mark II, Nikon needs to rush out a rev to the D700 or
    > risk losing a lot of new body sales, and a lot of long term lens sales.


    nonsense. the d700 is doing quite well.

    > Most new models are merely evolutionary, but the 5D Mark II, despite
    > it's name, is revolutionary. Similarly, they need a new prosumer model
    > to (catch up with the 50D), since the D300 is a year old already.


    canon added movie capability and upped the number of pixels. nothing
    'revolutionary' about it.

    > The D90 is likely not going to be upgraded too soon as it's got the
    > video advantage over its Canon XSi competition. It's Canon that needs to
    > rush out an upgrade to the XSi that adds video.


    nikon's next move is update the d60 (which was a stopgap) and/or a high
    end dslr.
    nospam, Nov 16, 2008
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  9. Re: Nikon D700x another Nikon upgrade?

    nospam wrote:
    > In article <uQMTk.11734$>, SMS
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >> Because of the 5D Mark II, Nikon needs to rush out a rev to the D700
    >> or risk losing a lot of new body sales, and a lot of long term lens
    >> sales.

    >
    > nonsense. the d700 is doing quite well.
    >
    >> Most new models are merely evolutionary, but the 5D Mark II, despite
    >> it's name, is revolutionary. Similarly, they need a new prosumer
    >> model to (catch up with the 50D), since the D300 is a year old
    >> already.

    >
    > canon added movie capability and upped the number of pixels. nothing
    > 'revolutionary' about it.
    >
    >> The D90 is likely not going to be upgraded too soon as it's got the
    >> video advantage over its Canon XSi competition. It's Canon that
    >> needs to rush out an upgrade to the XSi that adds video.

    >
    > nikon's next move is update the d60 (which was a stopgap) and/or a
    > high end dslr.


    Oh, I do hope not! I only just bought mine! Will it stop working? <G>

    David
    David J Taylor, Nov 16, 2008
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  10. Tony the insider

    SMS Guest

    Re: Nikon D700x another Nikon upgrade?

    ... wrote:
    > Nikon brings out a new DSLR only to update it 6 months later. The D700 has
    > not be available that long and now they are discontinuing it and replacing
    > it with an upgrade, D700X. They did the same with the D40X introduced it and
    > then 4 months later discontinued it.
    > I was looking at a D90 but if there is a chance it could be discontinued in
    > 6 months maybe I should wait?


    Nikon is struggling to keep up with Canon, and the D700X is part of that
    strategy. Look for a D300 upgrade very soon as well, so they can
    compete with the 50D. Canon is still the leading system, but Nikon has
    finally got its act together in sensors, an is giving Canon a run for
    its money, in least in bodies. Nikon still lags Canon badly in terms of
    lenses.

    Probably not worth waiting on the D90. The upgrade to the Canon XSi will
    add HD video with stero audio to leapfrog the D90, then the D90x (or
    whatever they call it) will go from mono to stereo.
    SMS, Nov 16, 2008
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  11. Re: Nikon D700x another Nikon upgrade?

    SMS wrote:
    []
    > Nikon is struggling to keep up with Canon, and the D700X is part of
    > that strategy. Look for a D300 upgrade very soon as well, so they can
    > compete with the 50D. Canon is still the leading system, but Nikon has
    > finally got its act together in sensors, an is giving Canon a run for
    > its money, in least in bodies. Nikon still lags Canon badly in terms
    > of lenses.


    In the more affordable lenses, I would have said it was just the
    opposite - that Canon has been lagging badly, at least until recently.

    David
    David J Taylor, Nov 16, 2008
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  12. Tony the insider

    That80sGuy Guest

    Re: Nikon D700x another Nikon upgrade?

    In message news:GLMTk.1784$, ".."
    <> done wrote:

    > Nikon brings out a new DSLR only to update it 6 months later. The D700
    > has not be available that long and now they are discontinuing it and
    > replacing it with an upgrade, D700X. They did the same with the D40X
    > introduced it and then 4 months later discontinued it.
    > I was looking at a D90 but if there is a chance it could be
    > discontinued in 6 months maybe I should wait?


    DSLRs need to be made modular. If you can have interchangeable film backs
    you can have interchangeable sensors.
    That80sGuy, Nov 16, 2008
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  13. Tony the insider

    nospam Guest

    Re: Nikon D700x another Nikon upgrade?

    In article <5bWTk.11745$>, SMS
    <> wrote:

    > Nikon is struggling to keep up with Canon, and the D700X is part of that
    > strategy.


    struggling? nikon sold more cameras than canon did last year. a
    bigger issue is the economy.

    > Look for a D300 upgrade very soon as well, so they can
    > compete with the 50D. Canon is still the leading system, but Nikon has
    > finally got its act together in sensors, an is giving Canon a run for
    > its money, in least in bodies. Nikon still lags Canon badly in terms of
    > lenses.


    nonsense. the d300 is doing well and both canon and nikon have
    excellent lenses.

    > Probably not worth waiting on the D90. The upgrade to the Canon XSi will
    > add HD video with stero audio to leapfrog the D90, then the D90x (or
    > whatever they call it) will go from mono to stereo.


    so canon has disclosed to you what the xsi will have? or are you
    making shit up again?
    nospam, Nov 16, 2008
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  14. Tony the insider

    nospam Guest

    Re: Nikon D700x another Nikon upgrade?

    In article <Xns9B5868915ED86That80sGuy@198.186.190.61>, That80sGuy
    <> wrote:

    > DSLRs need to be made modular. If you can have interchangeable film backs
    > you can have interchangeable sensors.


    making it modular will make the camera bigger and more expensive, not
    to mention that pretty much everything other than the shell will need
    to be replaced.
    nospam, Nov 16, 2008
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  15. Tony the insider

    nospam Guest

    Re: Nikon D700x another Nikon upgrade?

    In article <lOWTk.88392$>, David J
    Taylor <-this-part.nor-this-bit.co.uk>
    wrote:

    > In the more affordable lenses, I would have said it was just the
    > opposite - that Canon has been lagging badly, at least until recently.


    both systems have good and bad lenses, something sms can't seem to
    understand.
    nospam, Nov 16, 2008
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  16. Tony the insider

    measekite Guest

    Re: Nikon D700x another Nikon upgrade?

    On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:55:14 -0800, SMS wrote:

    > .. wrote:
    >> Nikon brings out a new DSLR only to update it 6 months later. The D700 has
    >> not be available that long and now they are discontinuing it and replacing
    >> it with an upgrade, D700X. They did the same with the D40X introduced it and
    >> then 4 months later discontinued it.
    >> I was looking at a D90 but if there is a chance it could be discontinued in
    >> 6 months maybe I should wait?

    >
    > Because of the 5D Mark II, Nikon needs to rush out a rev to the D700 or
    > risk losing a lot of new body sales, and a lot of long term lens sales.
    >
    > Most new models are merely evolutionary, but the 5D Mark II, despite
    > it's name, is revolutionary. Similarly, they need a new prosumer model
    > to (catch up with the 50D), since the D300 is a year old already.
    >
    > The D90 is likely not going to be upgraded too soon as it's got the
    > video advantage over its Canon XSi competition. It's Canon that needs to
    > rush out an upgrade to the XSi that adds video.


    I do not think that video is all that important for a DSLR shooter. Maybe
    a nice addon but not a gotta have. Besides, the D90 implementation leaves
    a lot to be desired and certainly is not a must have.
    measekite, Nov 16, 2008
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  17. Tony the insider

    Paul Furman Guest

    Re: Nikon D700x another Nikon upgrade?

    nospam wrote:
    > In article <Xns9B5868915ED86That80sGuy@198.186.190.61>, That80sGuy
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >> DSLRs need to be made modular. If you can have interchangeable film backs
    >> you can have interchangeable sensors.

    >
    > making it modular will make the camera bigger and more expensive, not
    > to mention that pretty much everything other than the shell will need
    > to be replaced.


    Red (the cine camera maker) has annouced a modular still/HD system. It
    is huge and expensive.

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    Paul Furman, Nov 16, 2008
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  18. Tony the insider

    measekite Guest

    Re: Nikon D700x another Nikon upgrade?

    On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 06:33:50 -0800, SMS wrote:

    > .. wrote:
    >> Nikon brings out a new DSLR only to update it 6 months later. The D700 has
    >> not be available that long and now they are discontinuing it and replacing
    >> it with an upgrade, D700X. They did the same with the D40X introduced it and
    >> then 4 months later discontinued it.
    >> I was looking at a D90 but if there is a chance it could be discontinued in
    >> 6 months maybe I should wait?

    >
    > Nikon is struggling to keep up with Canon, and the D700X is part of that
    > strategy. Look for a D300 upgrade very soon as well, so they can
    > compete with the 50D. Canon is still the leading system, but Nikon has
    > finally got its act together in sensors, an is giving Canon a run for
    > its money, in least in bodies. Nikon still lags Canon badly in terms of
    > lenses.
    >
    > Probably not worth waiting on the D90. The upgrade to the Canon XSi will
    > add HD video with stero audio to leapfrog the D90, then the D90x (or
    > whatever they call it) will go from mono to stereo.


    People seem to be comparing the D90 with the Canon 50D. Then they
    comparete the D300 with the Canon 50D and say it needs to be upgraded to
    compete. Then they say that the D700 compares to the new Canon 5D MkII
    but they need the 700x to really compare and it still won't.

    But the real truth is when you look at price points most of the Nikon
    models do not compete head on with Canon models but they appear to
    interleave with them falling between them in price point and many times in
    features.

    As far as price it goes something like this.

    D40
    1000D
    D60
    XSi *
    D90
    50D *
    D300
    D700
    5DMkII *
    DX3
    1DsMkIII


    The ones with the * appear to be more desirable at this point except for
    the last 2. The Canon is more desirable for certain stills but the DX3
    may be more desirable for sports and high ISO stuff.
    measekite, Nov 16, 2008
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  19. Tony the insider

    measekite Guest

    Re: Nikon D700x another Nikon upgrade?

    On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:16:48 +0000, That80sGuy wrote:

    > In message news:GLMTk.1784$, ".."
    > <> done wrote:
    >
    >> Nikon brings out a new DSLR only to update it 6 months later. The D700
    >> has not be available that long and now they are discontinuing it and
    >> replacing it with an upgrade, D700X. They did the same with the D40X
    >> introduced it and then 4 months later discontinued it.
    >> I was looking at a D90 but if there is a chance it could be
    >> discontinued in 6 months maybe I should wait?

    >
    > DSLRs need to be made modular. If you can have interchangeable film backs
    > you can have interchangeable sensors.


    That is already here. Some medium format film cameras with
    interchangeable backs can now add an interchangeable sensor back. The
    fact they approach $40,000 is another story.
    measekite, Nov 16, 2008
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  20. Tony the insider

    measekite Guest

    Re: Nikon D700x another Nikon upgrade?

    On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:52:40 +1100, N wrote:

    > ".." <> wrote in message
    > news:GLMTk.1784$...
    >> Nikon brings out a new DSLR only to update it 6 months later. The D700 has
    >> not be available that long and now they are discontinuing it and replacing
    >> it with an upgrade, D700X. They did the same with the D40X introduced it
    >> and
    >> then 4 months later discontinued it.
    >> I was looking at a D90 but if there is a chance it could be discontinued
    >> in
    >> 6 months maybe I should wait?
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    >
    > Do you use the same logic when buying clothes or a car?


    Maybe he does not drive and does not wear clothes. Maybe he lives on an
    island.
    measekite, Nov 16, 2008
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