School has started, and Drive to School Hall of Shame Web Site is

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by SMS, Aug 26, 2005.

  1. SMS

    SMS Guest

    In June, I started this project, but school was almost out. Now school
    has started again, and I've begun adding to the site. Now my kids are in
    two different schools, so I should be able to get even more photos, and
    I'm hoping to get other people to send some photos in as well. I've
    splurged the $8 for a domain name: "http://drivetoschoolhallofshame.com" .
     
    SMS, Aug 26, 2005
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    Ryan Robbins Guest

    Re: School has started, and Drive to School Hall of Shame Web Site is Up (http://drivetoschoolhallofshame.com)

    "SMS" <> wrote in message
    news:sWuPe.10639$p%...
    > In June, I started this project, but school was almost out. Now school has
    > started again, and I've begun adding to the site. Now my kids are in two
    > different schools, so I should be able to get even more photos, and I'm
    > hoping to get other people to send some photos in as well. I've splurged
    > the $8 for a domain name: "http://drivetoschoolhallofshame.com" .


    Your photos don't show any conclusive evidence of any wrongdoing by anybody.

    Also, I'm curious why you don't show license plate numbers and drivers'
    faces.
     
    Ryan Robbins, Aug 26, 2005
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  3. SMS

    SMS Guest

    Re: School has started, and Drive to School Hall of Shame Web Site

    Ryan Robbins wrote:
    > "SMS" <> wrote in message
    > news:sWuPe.10639$p%...
    >
    >>In June, I started this project, but school was almost out. Now school has
    >>started again, and I've begun adding to the site. Now my kids are in two
    >>different schools, so I should be able to get even more photos, and I'm
    >>hoping to get other people to send some photos in as well. I've splurged
    >>the $8 for a domain name: "http://drivetoschoolhallofshame.com" .

    >
    >
    > Your photos don't show any conclusive evidence of any wrongdoing by anybody.


    In California, and most other states, vehicles must stop for pedestrians
    in the crosswalk.

    > Also, I'm curious why you don't show license plate numbers and drivers'
    > faces.


    I was advised against it.
     
    SMS, Aug 26, 2005
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  4. SMS

    BJ in Texas Guest

    Re: School has started, and Drive to School Hall of Shame Web Site is Up (http://drivetoschoolhallofshame.com)

    SMS <> wrote:
    || In June, I started this project, but school was almost out.
    || Now school has started again, and I've begun adding to the
    || site. Now my kids are in two different schools, so I should
    || be able to get even more photos, and I'm hoping to get other
    || people to send some photos in as well. I've splurged the $8
    || for a domain name: "http://drivetoschoolhallofshame.com" .

    Dam, They missed :)

    --
    --
    "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the
    one who is doing it." -- The Roman Rule
     
    BJ in Texas, Aug 26, 2005
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  5. SMS

    Paul H. Guest

    Re: School has started, and Drive to School Hall of Shame Web Site is Up (http://drivetoschoolhallofshame.com)

    "SMS" <> wrote in message
    news:sWuPe.10639$p%...
    > In June, I started this project, but school was almost out. Now school
    > has started again, and I've begun adding to the site. Now my kids are in
    > two different schools, so I should be able to get even more photos, and
    > I'm hoping to get other people to send some photos in as well. I've
    > splurged the $8 for a domain name: "http://drivetoschoolhallofshame.com" .


    Why should anyone in a dSLR newsgroup give a rat's posterior about your
    provincial, obsessive-compulsive fetish? Besides, any adult with a "Nyah,
    nyah, nyah-- I'm gonna tell on you!" attitude ought not to be putting up a
    "hall of shame."

    If you have evidence of real safety issues involving criminal driving
    violations, take your pictures (preferably with license plates showing) to
    your local town council or police department and do something productive
    about the problem.
     
    Paul H., Aug 26, 2005
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  6. SMS

    wilt Guest

    Re: School has started, and Drive to School Hall of Shame Web Site is Up (http://drivetoschoolhallofshame.com)

    SMS,
    I have long noted that drivers picking up and dropping off their
    children at school are horribly preoccupied and oblivious to their
    surroundings...other than their own children. Driving is atrocious. My
    wife, who teaches school, agrees with my observations. Probably
    somewhat analogous to drivers who have so little brain matter available
    that they cannot even control the pressure of their accelerator foot as
    they talk on cell phones! But this is NOT a newsgroup for political
    or civil matters, it is about DIGITAL PHOTOGRAPHY. Get the hint?
     
    wilt, Aug 26, 2005
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  7. SMS

    SMS Guest

    Re: School has started, and Drive to School Hall of Shame Web Site

    wilt wrote:
    > SMS,
    > I have long noted that drivers picking up and dropping off their
    > children at school are horribly preoccupied and oblivious to their
    > surroundings...other than their own children. Driving is atrocious. My
    > wife, who teaches school, agrees with my observations. Probably
    > somewhat analogous to drivers who have so little brain matter available
    > that they cannot even control the pressure of their accelerator foot as
    > they talk on cell phones! But this is NOT a newsgroup for political
    > or civil matters, it is about DIGITAL PHOTOGRAPHY. Get the hint?


    The point really is that just carrying a dSLR (as opposed to a small
    camera) is an intimidation tool against these drivers (this was the
    original subject of this post). You'd be amazed to witness the change in
    behavior of some drivers when you raise the camera and point it at their
    car; you can read their mind, "why is he pointing a camera at me?
    should I go or stop? oh, I'm supposed to stop so I'd better stop).
     
    SMS, Aug 26, 2005
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  8. SMS

    Guest

    Re: School has started, and Drive to School Hall of Shame Web Site is Up (http://drivetoschoolhallofshame.com)

    SMS wrote:

    > The point really is that just carrying a dSLR (as opposed to a small
    > camera) is an intimidation tool against these drivers (this was the
    > original subject of this post). You'd be amazed to witness the change in
    > behavior of some drivers when you raise the camera and point it at their
    > car; you can read their mind, "why is he pointing a camera at me?
    > should I go or stop? oh, I'm supposed to stop so I'd better stop).


    Seems to me you are being watched carefully by attentive parents: they
    see some kook with a camera in front of a frickin' school. Are they
    supposed to think glowing, warm, thoughts of you? They simply have no
    idea, nor are likely to care about what you may say -- their bayesian
    prior is that you are a _threat_ to their offspring. Sooner or later,
    as unjustified as it may be, you will have to explain your presence to
    a cop. What evidence can you present to him that you are what you
    claim, as opposed to his likely view that you are just some closet
    pedophile who is using stop-sign 'violations' as a cover for taking
    pictures of kids? But hey, it's your life: carry on!
     
    , Aug 26, 2005
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  9. Re: School has started, and Drive to School Hall of Shame Web Site

    "" <> writes:

    > Sooner or later,
    > as unjustified as it may be, you will have to explain your presence to
    > a cop. What evidence can you present to him that you are what you
    > claim, as opposed to his likely view that you are just some closet
    > pedophile who is using stop-sign 'violations' as a cover for taking
    > pictures of kids?


    If that is a digital SLR (the only On-topic type in this newsgroup), he can
    certainly show the previously taken photos on the spot. With film cameras
    it would be more difficult.

    Dragan

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    Dragan Cvetkovic, Aug 26, 2005
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  10. SMS

    Jeremy Nixon Guest

    Re: School has started, and Drive to School Hall of Shame Web Site is Up (http://drivetoschoolhallofshame.com)

    <> wrote:

    > They simply have no idea, nor are likely to care about what you may
    > say -- their bayesian prior is that you are a _threat_ to their
    > offspring.


    Ironic, though -- they're so focused on imagined threats to their
    offspring that they are oblivious to actual threats to their offspring.

    --
    Jeremy |
     
    Jeremy Nixon, Aug 26, 2005
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  11. SMS

    David A Guest

    Re: School has started, and Drive to School Hall of Shame Web Site is Up (http://drivetoschoolhallofshame.com)

    This thread is off topic for this newsgroup.


    if you want to get their attention, and protect your kids, point a gun at
    them.

    Now thats a real P&S solution.
     
    David A, Aug 26, 2005
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  12. SMS

    Jeremy Nixon Guest

    Re: School has started, and Drive to School Hall of Shame Web Site is Up (http://drivetoschoolhallofshame.com)

    David A <> wrote:

    > if you want to get their attention, and protect your kids, point a gun at
    > them.


    I guess pointing a gun at your kids would get their attention, but protect
    them?

    --
    Jeremy |
     
    Jeremy Nixon, Aug 26, 2005
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  13. SMS

    Guest

    Re: School has started, and Drive to School Hall of Shame Web Site is Up (http://drivetoschoolhallofshame.com)

    SMS wrote:

    >> Your photos don't show any conclusive evidence of any wrongdoing by anybody.

    >
    > In California, and most other states, vehicles must stop for pedestrians
    > in the crosswalk.


    He wasn't asking about the law, he was asking for evidence of "wrong
    doing". Got any?

    > > Also, I'm curious why you don't show license plate numbers and drivers'
    > > faces.

    >
    > I was advised against it.


    Then from where will the "shame" come?
     
    , Aug 26, 2005
    #13
  14. Re: School has started, and Drive to School Hall of Shame Web Site is Up (http://drivetoschoolhallofshame.com)

    <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > SMS wrote:
    >
    >>> Your photos don't show any conclusive evidence of any wrongdoing by
    >>> anybody.

    >>
    >> In California, and most other states, vehicles must stop for pedestrians
    >> in the crosswalk.

    >
    > He wasn't asking about the law, he was asking for evidence of "wrong
    > doing". Got any?
    >
    >> > Also, I'm curious why you don't show license plate numbers and drivers'
    >> > faces.

    >>
    >> I was advised against it.

    >
    > Then from where will the "shame" come?


    The "shame" is in Scharf's claim that this website is "World Famous". This
    man is a legend only in *his* mind, that's at leat one person who thinks
    highly of him.
     
    Peter A. Stavrakoglou, Aug 26, 2005
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  15. SMS

    SMS Guest

    Re: School has started, and Drive to School Hall of Shame Web Site

    wrote:

    > Seems to me you are being watched carefully by attentive parents: they
    > see some kook with a camera in front of a frickin' school. Are they
    > supposed to think glowing, warm, thoughts of you? They simply have no
    > idea, nor are likely to care about what you may say -- their bayesian
    > prior is that you are a _threat_ to their offspring.


    Not really, since I am walking with myo own offspring, and am clearly
    another parent going to the school. And of course it isn't really in
    front of the school in most cases.
     
    SMS, Aug 26, 2005
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  16. SMS

    Ryan Robbins Guest

    Re: School has started, and Drive to School Hall of Shame Web Site is Up (http://drivetoschoolhallofshame.com)

    "SMS" <> wrote in message
    news:c8BPe.10667$p%...
    > Ryan Robbins wrote:
    >> "SMS" <> wrote in message
    >> news:sWuPe.10639$p%...
    >>
    >>>In June, I started this project, but school was almost out. Now school
    >>>has started again, and I've begun adding to the site. Now my kids are in
    >>>two different schools, so I should be able to get even more photos, and
    >>>I'm hoping to get other people to send some photos in as well. I've
    >>>splurged the $8 for a domain name: "http://drivetoschoolhallofshame.com"
    >>>.

    >>
    >>
    >> Your photos don't show any conclusive evidence of any wrongdoing by
    >> anybody.

    >
    > In California, and most other states, vehicles must stop for pedestrians
    > in the crosswalk.


    That's nice. But your photos don't prove anything.

    >> Also, I'm curious why you don't show license plate numbers and drivers'
    >> faces.

    >
    > I was advised against it.


    By whom? We do have the First Amendment.
     
    Ryan Robbins, Aug 27, 2005
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  17. SMS

    David A. Guest

    Re: School has started, and Drive to School Hall of Shame Web Site is Up (http://drivetoschoolhallofshame.com)

    "Jeremy Nixon" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > David A <> wrote:
    >
    >> if you want to get their attention, and protect your kids, point a gun at
    >> them.

    >
    > I guess pointing a gun at your kids would get their attention, but protect
    > them?
    >
    > --
    > Jeremy |



    A real conversation stopper, I really did it this time. Guess it was kind
    of....... negative. So, lets just say good luck pointing camera's and trying
    to do good..
     
    David A., Aug 27, 2005
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  18. SMS

    Jer Guest

    Re: School has started, and Drive to School Hall of Shame Web Site

    wrote:
    > SMS wrote:
    >
    >
    >>The point really is that just carrying a dSLR (as opposed to a small
    >>camera) is an intimidation tool against these drivers (this was the
    >>original subject of this post). You'd be amazed to witness the change in
    >>behavior of some drivers when you raise the camera and point it at their
    >>car; you can read their mind, "why is he pointing a camera at me?
    >>should I go or stop? oh, I'm supposed to stop so I'd better stop).

    >
    >
    > Seems to me you are being watched carefully by attentive parents: they
    > see some kook with a camera in front of a frickin' school. Are they
    > supposed to think glowing, warm, thoughts of you? They simply have no
    > idea, nor are likely to care about what you may say -- their bayesian
    > prior is that you are a _threat_ to their offspring. Sooner or later,
    > as unjustified as it may be, you will have to explain your presence to
    > a cop. What evidence can you present to him that you are what you
    > claim, as opposed to his likely view that you are just some closet
    > pedophile who is using stop-sign 'violations' as a cover for taking
    > pictures of kids? But hey, it's your life: carry on!
    >



    I, and I presume many others, understand your point. However, unless
    the possession of photographic equipment (and it's usage) near public
    schools is prohibited by law and posted by signage immediately adjacent
    to the public thoroughfare, his admitted usage of his photographic
    equipment within the context of this thread cannot be reasonably
    construed as a violation of any criminal statute.

    Constitutional egg cracked. And your welcome.

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    jer
    email reply - I am not a 'ten'
     
    Jer, Aug 27, 2005
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