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Frank@Zappa.com
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      12-28-2009, 05:01 PM
I post saying something about Islam,
it does not match up w/ what Wiki says,so...
I am a hate-filled bigot!

I'm not really, I just know a little more than is on the Wiki entry on Islam.
That's not hard to do - the page is does not go into great detail.

Anyway, Islam is having an impact on "our" world that will affect our
ability to freely point our cameras where we wish.

As for my cowardly anonymous posting, I don't need everybody knowing my real name.
Nowadays that's not a good idea, for many reasons.

thanks
Frank
 
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      12-28-2009, 06:31 PM
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:51:10 -0800, Ockham's Razor <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>
>> I post saying something about Islam,
>> it does not match up w/ what Wiki says,so...
>> I am a hate-filled bigot!
>>
>> I'm not really, I just know a little more than is on the Wiki entry on Islam.
>> That's not hard to do - the page is does not go into great detail.
>>
>> Anyway, Islam is having an impact on "our" world that will affect our
>> ability to freely point our cameras where we wish.
>>
>> As for my cowardly anonymous posting, I don't need everybody knowing my real
>> name.
>> Nowadays that's not a good idea, for many reasons.
>>
>> thanks
>> Frank

>
>OK.
>
>Now, just what does this rant have to do with digital photography?



1 - More Islamists mucking about, saying "get that camera out of here before I smash it!"
2 - More Police mucking about, saying "you are under arrest for suspicious photography"
while being mistaken for a terrorist, although you are actually a local.
 
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Ray Fischer
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      12-28-2009, 06:32 PM
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>I post saying something about Islam,


Something which happens to be an evil lie.

>it does not match up w/ what Wiki says,so...
>I am a hate-filled bigot!


bigot: a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed,
belief, or opinion.

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      12-28-2009, 06:41 PM
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:31:12 -0800, Frank wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:51:10 -0800, Ockham's Razor <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>>In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
>> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>>
>>> I post saying something about Islam,
>>> it does not match up w/ what Wiki says,so... I am a hate-filled bigot!
>>>
>>> I'm not really, I just know a little more than is on the Wiki entry on
>>> Islam. That's not hard to do - the page is does not go into great
>>> detail.
>>>
>>> Anyway, Islam is having an impact on "our" world that will affect our
>>> ability to freely point our cameras where we wish.
>>>
>>> As for my cowardly anonymous posting, I don't need everybody knowing
>>> my real name.
>>> Nowadays that's not a good idea, for many reasons.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> Frank

>>
>>OK.
>>
>>Now, just what does this rant have to do with digital photography?

>
>
> 1 - More Islamists mucking about, saying "get that camera out of here
> before I smash it!" 2 - More Police mucking about, saying "you are under
> arrest for suspicious photography" while being mistaken for a terrorist,
> although you are actually a local.


Didn't realize the police were muslims.
 
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      12-28-2009, 10:53 PM
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:09:40 -0800, "Bill Graham" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

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>"ray" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> 1 - More Islamists mucking about, saying "get that camera out of here
>>> before I smash it!" 2 - More Police mucking about, saying "you are under
>>> arrest for suspicious photography" while being mistaken for a terrorist,
>>> although you are actually a local.

>>
>> Didn't realize the police were muslims.

>
>weg9 says:
>Well, their actions support it, so open your eyes......The FAA response to
>the recent bombing attempt was to limit your carry-ons to just one bag each,
>and refuse to allow you to have a blanket.....So go figure.......What has
>either one of these things to do with some Jihadist strapping a bomb to his
>leg? It would seem to me that the terrorists have managed to recruit our
>policemen and turn them into idiots......


IIRC, the guy carried on his bomb as multiple components which he
mixed/assembled/whatever under a blanket.

I guess the single-bag limit is intended to make it easier to spot an
assemblage of items that could make up a bomb. The no-blanket rule
should be obvious.
 
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      12-28-2009, 11:03 PM
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:01:28 -0600, Neil Ellwood <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:32:18 +0000, Ray Fischer wrote:
>
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>I post saying something about Islam,

>>
>> Something which happens to be an evil lie.
>>
>>>it does not match up w/ what Wiki says,so... I am a hate-filled bigot!

>>
>> bigot: a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed,
>> belief, or opinion.

>
>Almost right - ' bigot - a person who agrees that every opinion is
>correct, providing it is his own'.



Other people's opinions are fine by me - I am actually quite tolerant
of differing creeds, beliefs and opnions.

I am not tolerant of a belief system called "Islam".
It has shown itself not to be worthy of my tolerating it.

I think much in life is to be tolerated - but not Islam. What is so wrong about that?
 
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      12-28-2009, 11:06 PM
On 28 Dec 2009 18:41:35 GMT, ray <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:31:12 -0800, Frank wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:51:10 -0800, Ockham's Razor <(E-Mail Removed)>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
>>> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>>>
>>>> I post saying something about Islam,
>>>> it does not match up w/ what Wiki says,so... I am a hate-filled bigot!
>>>>
>>>> I'm not really, I just know a little more than is on the Wiki entry on
>>>> Islam. That's not hard to do - the page is does not go into great
>>>> detail.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, Islam is having an impact on "our" world that will affect our
>>>> ability to freely point our cameras where we wish.
>>>>
>>>> As for my cowardly anonymous posting, I don't need everybody knowing
>>>> my real name.
>>>> Nowadays that's not a good idea, for many reasons.
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>>OK.
>>>
>>>Now, just what does this rant have to do with digital photography?

>>
>>
>> 1 - More Islamists mucking about, saying "get that camera out of here
>> before I smash it!" 2 - More Police mucking about, saying "you are under
>> arrest for suspicious photography" while being mistaken for a terrorist,
>> although you are actually a local.

>
>Didn't realize the police were muslims.



a few of them are.
 
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      12-28-2009, 11:22 PM
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:03:27 -0800, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:01:28 -0600, Neil Ellwood <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:32:18 +0000, Ray Fischer wrote:
>>
>>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>>I post saying something about Islam,
>>>
>>> Something which happens to be an evil lie.
>>>
>>>>it does not match up w/ what Wiki says,so... I am a hate-filled bigot!
>>>
>>> bigot: a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed,
>>> belief, or opinion.

>>
>>Almost right - ' bigot - a person who agrees that every opinion is
>>correct, providing it is his own'.

>
>
>Other people's opinions are fine by me - I am actually quite tolerant
>of differing creeds, beliefs and opnions.
>
>I am not tolerant of a belief system called "Islam".
>It has shown itself not to be worthy of my tolerating it.
>
>I think much in life is to be tolerated - but not Islam. What is so wrong about that?


I'm curious: can you name the minimum specific changes that would have
to occur in Islam for it to become tolerable to you?
 
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      12-28-2009, 11:26 PM

<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:01:28 -0600, Neil Ellwood
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:32:18 +0000, Ray Fischer wrote:
>>
>>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>>I post saying something about Islam,
>>>
>>> Something which happens to be an evil lie.
>>>
>>>>it does not match up w/ what Wiki says,so... I am a hate-filled bigot!
>>>
>>> bigot: a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed,
>>> belief, or opinion.

>>
>>Almost right - ' bigot - a person who agrees that every opinion is
>>correct, providing it is his own'.

>
>
> Other people's opinions are fine by me - I am actually quite tolerant
> of differing creeds, beliefs and opnions.
>
> I am not tolerant of a belief system called "Islam".
> It has shown itself not to be worthy of my tolerating it.
>
> I think much in life is to be tolerated - but not Islam. What is so wrong
> about that?


Maybe nothing, but one should be careful about painting with a wide brush.
Perhaps, it is extremist factions that you are talking about? Many who
follow Islam are pacifists.

http://ipopa.blogspot.com/2009/11/de...jihadists.html

Please read the whole thing, if you are really interested.

As to the extremists ... a simple message, all people have the right to
defend their future and they will.


 
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      12-29-2009, 12:49 AM
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Neil Ellwood <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>>I post saying something about Islam,
>>>
>>> Something which happens to be an evil lie.
>>>
>>>>it does not match up w/ what Wiki says,so... I am a hate-filled bigot!
>>>
>>> bigot: a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed,
>>> belief, or opinion.

>>
>>Almost right - ' bigot - a person who agrees that every opinion is
>>correct, providing it is his own'.

>
>Other people's opinions are fine by me - I am actually quite tolerant
>of differing creeds, beliefs and opnions.


Which, as you show just below, is a complete lie.

>I am not tolerant of a belief system called "Islam".
>It has shown itself not to be worthy of my tolerating it.


That makes you a bigot.

>I think much in life is to be tolerated - but not Islam.


"I think much in life is to be tolerated - but not [Judaism]."

>What is so wrong about that?


Nothing at all if you're a Nazi.

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