10 PeterN comments

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  1. PeterN

    Savageduck Guest

    The lighting in the museum is marginal at best.
    < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC5306-1.jpg >

    That said, the engineering of the machinery on that massive Southern
    Pacific, Baldwin 4-8-8-2 cab forward locomotive has to be seen in the
    flesh to be appreciated. As for the absolute immensity of that monster,
    it is hard to believe that it is as large as it is. At first you can
    only stand and stare in amazement.
    < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Pacific_4294 >
     
    Savageduck, Aug 31, 2013
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  2. PeterN

    Robert Coe Guest

    Interior shots in railroad museums can be problematic due to lighting
    : issues, such is the case with the California Railroad Museum in
    : Sacramento. As I said in my comments, cropping an isolated section
    : rather than trying to capture the entire machine, can make for a better
    : image. Here are two of mine.
    : < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC5300SE-1.jpg >
    : < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC5343Se-1.jpg >

    The Pennaylvania RR Museum (at Strasburg, out in Lancaster County) has pretty
    good lighting:

    http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/142845945

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Aug 31, 2013
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  3. PeterN

    Robert Coe Guest

    : On 8/30/2013 7:43 PM, Savageduck wrote:
    : >
    : > Interior shots in railroad museums can be problematic due to lighting
    : > issues, such is the case with the California Railroad Museum in
    : > Sacramento. As I said in my comments, cropping an isolated section
    : > rather than trying to capture the entire machine, can make for a better
    : > image. Here are two of mine.
    : > < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC5300SE-1.jpg >
    : > < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC5343Se-1.jpg >
    :
    : Well done. In both images I think the frame enhances the image.

    I should've put a frame line on my picture of the high school auditorium. But
    as usual it was the last minute, and I probably wouldn't have had time to do
    it if I'd thought of it.

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Aug 31, 2013
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  4. PeterN

    PeterN Guest

    On 8/30/2013 11:52 PM, Savageduck wrote:


    That is one awesome machine. My guess is that you found at least fifty
    images there, possibly quite a bit more.
     
    PeterN, Aug 31, 2013
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  5. PeterN

    Robert Coe Guest

    On 2013-08-30 18:00:00 -0700, "J. Clarke" <> said:
    :
    : > In article <[email protected]>,
    : > [email protected]{REMOVESPAM}me.com says...
    : >>
    : >> On 2013-08-28 22:04:44 -0700, Eric Stevens <> said:
    : >>
    : >>> On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 21:48:33 -0400, PeterN
    : >>>
    : >>>> Eric Stevens:
    : >>>> 1. A nice, interesting old machine. I am not certain that the
    : >>>> overhead lights and the guard rope add anything to the image. I probaby
    : >>>> would have cloned them out.
    : >>>
    : >>> I thought hard about cloning out the lights but eventually decided to
    : >>> leave them alone. As far as the guard rope goes, I didn't even notice
    : >>> it until you pointed it out. Even then I had to look for it. I agree,
    : >>> I should have deleted it.
    : >>>
    : >>>> 2. Where is the steam. There are so many interesting areas in this
    : >>>> picture, that I don't know where to look first. Here I would have like
    : >>>> to be perpendicular to the engine.
    : >>>
    : >>> I'm afraid no steam has been anywhere near that locomotive for more
    : >>> than 40 years. You will notice that all sorts of parts which should be
    : >>> bright have been painted black. I too would have liked a different
    : >>> view point but I had to shoot around a roof-supporting column (the
    : >>> right-hand side is cropped to it).
    : >>>
    : >>>> 3. See! You took my advice. well done and nicely composed. Quite often
    : >>>> less is more. You just proved it.
    : >>>
    : >>> I saw the extraordinarily bright wheel shining from a distance but
    : >>> when I got close I could not see it unless I was prepared to lie down
    : >>> on the ground. I shot blind from below knee level until I got a shot I
    : >>> liked and then cropped it down until most of the extraneous stuff had
    : >>> gone.
    : >>
    : >> Interior shots in railroad museums can be problematic due to lighting
    : >> issues, such is the case with the California Railroad Museum in
    : >> Sacramento. As I said in my comments, cropping an isolated section
    : >> rather than trying to capture the entire machine, can make for a better
    : >> image. Here are two of mine.
    : >> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC5300SE-1.jpg >
    : >> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC5343Se-1.jpg >
    : >
    : > That second one puts me in mind of a hand-drawn illustration I've seen
    : > somewhere or other--the tonality is very similar.
    :
    : Here is the pre-B&W conversion color version:
    : < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC5343-E1-1.jpg >

    My first reaction is that the ambient light is way too red. But as I look at
    it longer, I sort of like it.
     
    Robert Coe, Aug 31, 2013
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  6. PeterN

    PeterN Guest

    I have a quick & dirty fram method. Image | canvas size | (Add .05) |
    pick a color from the image | OK.
    Others use a different method. but this works for me and takes abut 10
    seconds. i could save a lot of time by using an action, but I have a few
    extra seconds to look at the image.
     
    PeterN, Aug 31, 2013
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  7. PeterN

    PeterN Guest

    I like it too. But I think his conversion was more dramatic.
     
    PeterN, Aug 31, 2013
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  8. PeterN

    Tony Cooper Guest

    In Photoshop, Select All>Stroke (set to 3 to 5 pixels, usually in
    white) works for me. I've never timed this operation. It would take
    longer to time it than it takes to do it.
     
    Tony Cooper, Aug 31, 2013
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  9. PeterN

    Robert Coe Guest

    : On 8/31/2013 9:13 AM, Robert Coe wrote:
    : > On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 18:33:06 -0700, Savageduck
    : > : On 2013-08-30 18:00:00 -0700, "J. Clarke" <> said:
    : > :
    : > : > In article <[email protected]>,
    : > : > [email protected]{REMOVESPAM}me.com says...
    : > : >>
    : > : >> On 2013-08-28 22:04:44 -0700, Eric Stevens <> said:
    : > : >>
    : > : >>> On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 21:48:33 -0400, PeterN
    : > : >>>
    : > : >>>> Eric Stevens:
    : > : >>>> 1. A nice, interesting old machine. I am not certain that the
    : > : >>>> overhead lights and the guard rope add anything to the image. I probaby
    : > : >>>> would have cloned them out.
    : > : >>>
    : > : >>> I thought hard about cloning out the lights but eventually decided to
    : > : >>> leave them alone. As far as the guard rope goes, I didn't even notice
    : > : >>> it until you pointed it out. Even then I had to look for it. I agree,
    : > : >>> I should have deleted it.
    : > : >>>
    : > : >>>> 2. Where is the steam. There are so many interesting areas in this
    : > : >>>> picture, that I don't know where to look first. Here I would have like
    : > : >>>> to be perpendicular to the engine.
    : > : >>>
    : > : >>> I'm afraid no steam has been anywhere near that locomotive for more
    : > : >>> than 40 years. You will notice that all sorts of parts which should be
    : > : >>> bright have been painted black. I too would have liked a different
    : > : >>> view point but I had to shoot around a roof-supporting column (the
    : > : >>> right-hand side is cropped to it).
    : > : >>>
    : > : >>>> 3. See! You took my advice. well done and nicely composed. Quite often
    : > : >>>> less is more. You just proved it.
    : > : >>>
    : > : >>> I saw the extraordinarily bright wheel shining from a distance but
    : > : >>> when I got close I could not see it unless I was prepared to lie down
    : > : >>> on the ground. I shot blind from below knee level until I got a shot I
    : > : >>> liked and then cropped it down until most of the extraneous stuff had
    : > : >>> gone.
    : > : >>
    : > : >> Interior shots in railroad museums can be problematic due to lighting
    : > : >> issues, such is the case with the California Railroad Museum in
    : > : >> Sacramento. As I said in my comments, cropping an isolated section
    : > : >> rather than trying to capture the entire machine, can make for a better
    : > : >> image. Here are two of mine.
    : > : >> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC5300SE-1.jpg >
    : > : >> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC5343Se-1.jpg >
    : > : >
    : > : > That second one puts me in mind of a hand-drawn illustration I've seen
    : > : > somewhere or other--the tonality is very similar.
    : > :
    : > : Here is the pre-B&W conversion color version:
    : > : < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC5343-E1-1.jpg >
    : >
    : > My first reaction is that the ambient light is way too red. But as I look at
    : > it longer, I sort of like it.
    : >
    :
    : I like it too. But I think his conversion was more dramatic.

    I agree.

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Aug 31, 2013
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  10. PeterN

    Robert Coe Guest

    : On 8/30/2013 12:59 AM, Savageduck wrote:
    : > On 2013-08-29 21:38:58 -0700, Eric Stevens <> said:
    : >
    : >> On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 21:08:24 -0700, Savageduck
    : >>
    : >>> On 2013-08-29 20:45:13 -0700, Eric Stevens <>
    : >>> said:
    : >>>
    : >>>> On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 22:51:48 -0400, Tony Cooper
    : >>>>
    : >>>>> On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 21:48:33 -0400, PeterN
    : >>>>>
    : >>>>> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/152034237
    : >>>>>> Tony cooper:
    : >>>>>> 3. OK It's a well exposed picture of a statue, that meets the
    : >>>>>> mandate.
    : >>>>>> I've seen much better work from you.
    : >>>>>
    : >>>>> What! Do you know how *hard* it is to find a grotesque in Orlando?
    : >>>>> This is the all-time, second-best shot of a grotesque I've ever done!
    : >>>>>
    : >>>>> All over this town you'll find anthropomorphized statues of mouses ...
    : >>>>
    : >>>> 'mice' :)
    : >>>
    : >>> It's Orlando. Hence "Mickey Mouses". ;-)
    : >>> < https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/ >
    : >>
    : >> In that case it should be "Mickey Mouse's", although Mickey Mouse's
    : >> what, I don't know. :)
    : >
    : > No! No! that apostrophe would make it a possessive. What you will find
    : > in the Orlando (& Anaheim) areas are all sorts of folks dressed as Micky
    : > Mouse, hence a plethora of "Mickey Mouses" (& Minnie Mouses). ;-)
    : > They aren't real mice, so "mouses" is quite appropriate.
    : >
    :
    : Meese would be just as appropriate.

    No, NO! "Meese" is the plural of "moose".

    And a grain of rice is a "rouse". (And I'd claim that one of those cubes with
    dots on it is a "douse".)

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Aug 31, 2013
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  11. PeterN

    Robert Coe Guest

    Robert Coe, Aug 31, 2013
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  12. PeterN

    Robert Coe Guest

    : On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 16:40:48 +1200, Eric Stevens
    :
    : >On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 00:28:57 -0400, Tony Cooper
    : >
    : >>On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 15:45:13 +1200, Eric Stevens
    : >>
    : >>>On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 22:51:48 -0400, Tony Cooper
    : >>>
    : >>>>On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 21:48:33 -0400, PeterN
    : >>>>
    : >>>>http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/152034237
    : >>>>>Tony cooper:
    : >>>>> 3. OK It's a well exposed picture of a statue, that meets the mandate.
    : >>>>>I've seen much better work from you.
    : >>>>
    : >>>>What! Do you know how *hard* it is to find a grotesque in Orlando?
    : >>>>This is the all-time, second-best shot of a grotesque I've ever done!
    : >>>>
    : >>>>All over this town you'll find anthropomorphized statues of mouses ...
    : >>>
    : >>> 'mice' :)
    : >>
    : >>Naw. Mice are real creatures or devices used with computers. Mouses
    : >>are the plural of Mickeys.
    : >
    : >And 'Mickeys' are the plural of Mickey. So we have a plural of a
    : >plural - which is a what?
    :
    : Are you taking the mickey? It's a plurality of mouses.

    Q: What is the singular of "plethora of mice"?
    A: "Plethoron of mouse"

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Aug 31, 2013
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  13. PeterN

    Robert Coe Guest

    : In article <>, tonycooper214
    : @gmail.com says...
    : >
    : > On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 15:45:13 +1200, Eric Stevens
    : >
    : > >On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 22:51:48 -0400, Tony Cooper
    : > >
    : > >>On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 21:48:33 -0400, PeterN
    : > >>
    : > >>http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/152034237
    : > >>>Tony cooper:
    : > >>> 3. OK It's a well exposed picture of a statue, that meets the mandate.
    : > >>>I've seen much better work from you.
    : > >>
    : > >>What! Do you know how *hard* it is to find a grotesque in Orlando?
    : > >>This is the all-time, second-best shot of a grotesque I've ever done!
    : > >>
    : > >>All over this town you'll find anthropomorphized statues of mouses ...
    : > >
    : > > 'mice' :)
    : >
    : > Naw. Mice are real creatures or devices used with computers. Mouses
    : > are the plural of Mickeys.
    :
    : I remember a time when it was nerd-chic to refer to the computer kind as
    : "mouses".

    In those days a real nerd used a light pen.

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Aug 31, 2013
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  14. PeterN

    Tony Cooper Guest


    Yeah? And so?
    I'm not sure what that's about. You aren't thinking about the columns
    being different colors, are you? The columns for "Mickey" were
    changed to bright red in Photoshop. I wasn't going to use the
    "Minnie" shot, so I didn't work on it.

    Both shots taken at the same setting, one at 2:26 PM and one at 2:30
    PM. I wanted a Mickey shot, took it, went to the car, decided I might
    as well get Minnie, and shot that four minutes later.
     
    Tony Cooper, Aug 31, 2013
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  15. PeterN

    PeterN Guest

    Not according to Mr. Jinks.
     
    PeterN, Aug 31, 2013
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  16. PeterN

    Eric Stevens Guest

    Can't be right. I live in a house (singular).

    Or would you say 'This morning I put on a pair of tricers'?
     
    Eric Stevens, Sep 1, 2013
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  17. PeterN

    Robert Coe Guest

    :
    : >On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 10:09:38 -0400, PeterN <>
    : >wrote:
    : >: On 8/30/2013 12:59 AM, Savageduck wrote:
    : >: > On 2013-08-29 21:38:58 -0700, Eric Stevens <> said:
    : >: >
    : >: >> On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 21:08:24 -0700, Savageduck
    : >: >>
    : >: >>> On 2013-08-29 20:45:13 -0700, Eric Stevens <>
    : >: >>> said:
    : >: >>>
    : >: >>>> On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 22:51:48 -0400, Tony Cooper
    : >: >>>>
    : >: >>>>> On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 21:48:33 -0400, PeterN
    : >: >>>>>
    : >: >>>>> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/152034237
    : >: >>>>>> Tony cooper:
    : >: >>>>>> 3. OK It's a well exposed picture of a statue, that meets the
    : >: >>>>>> mandate.
    : >: >>>>>> I've seen much better work from you.
    : >: >>>>>
    : >: >>>>> What! Do you know how *hard* it is to find a grotesque in Orlando?
    : >: >>>>> This is the all-time, second-best shot of a grotesque I've ever done!
    : >: >>>>>
    : >: >>>>> All over this town you'll find anthropomorphized statues of mouses ...
    : >: >>>>
    : >: >>>> 'mice' :)
    : >: >>>
    : >: >>> It's Orlando. Hence "Mickey Mouses". ;-)
    : >: >>> < https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/ >
    : >: >>
    : >: >> In that case it should be "Mickey Mouse's", although Mickey Mouse's
    : >: >> what, I don't know. :)
    : >: >
    : >: > No! No! that apostrophe would make it a possessive. What you will find
    : >: > in the Orlando (& Anaheim) areas are all sorts of folks dressed as Micky
    : >: > Mouse, hence a plethora of "Mickey Mouses" (& Minnie Mouses). ;-)
    : >: > They aren't real mice, so "mouses" is quite appropriate.
    : >: >
    : >:
    : >: Meese would be just as appropriate.
    : >
    : >No, NO! "Meese" is the plural of "moose".
    : >
    : >And a grain of rice is a "rouse". (And I'd claim that one of those cubes with
    : >dots on it is a "douse".)
    : >
    : Can't be right. I live in a house (singular).

    So do I. But some people have two or more hice.

    : Or would you say 'This morning I put on a pair of tricers'?

    Now you're just being silly. There's no such thing as a trouse.

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Sep 1, 2013
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  18. PeterN

    Savageduck Guest

    ....but if you were in Scotland and referred to "trews" you would be
    getting phonetically close.
     
    Savageduck, Sep 1, 2013
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  19. PeterN

    Tony Cooper Guest

    But it is Donald's "troosers" that people seem to want to know the
    whereabouts of:

    I've just come down
    From the Isle of Skye
    I'm not very big and I'm awful shy
    And the lassies shout when I go by
    Donald, where's your troosers
     
    Tony Cooper, Sep 1, 2013
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  20. PeterN

    Savageduck Guest

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trews
     
    Savageduck, Sep 1, 2013
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