16mm or super 8mm for gritty black and white video broadcast.

Discussion in 'Professional Video Production' started by Raskolnikov Alexis Friedemann, Jun 26, 2005.

  1. I'm working with a musician and we'd like to get a gritty, urban look.
    Considering shooting super 8 b&w, but thinking maybe 16mm? Any
    suggestions? Will the 8mm footage fall apart when telecined and
    converted for broadcast? Will the 16mm look TOO good? Any ideas?

    I already own the 16mm camera, so I'm leaning that way. The film cost
    is not a huge issue since it's a 3 minute piece.
     
    Raskolnikov Alexis Friedemann, Jun 26, 2005
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  2. Raskolnikov Alexis Friedemann

    Seattle Eric Guest

    If it doesn't matter, use the 16mm. You can always ADD grunge: taking
    it out is a different matter.

    However, 8mm b/w pushed two stops is REALLY freekin' cool.
     
    Seattle Eric, Jun 26, 2005
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  3. Raskolnikov Alexis Friedemann

    Guest Guest

    | If it doesn't matter, use the 16mm. You can always ADD grunge: taking
    | it out is a different matter.

    If we use a standard file of grunge, then that added grunge can be
    taken out. Would be a fun trick to play on people when they see a
    dirty video then watch your computer clean it up to broadcast quality.

    :)


    | However, 8mm b/w pushed two stops is REALLY freekin' cool.

    How about infra-red sensitive b/w pushed four stops (I've done this
    with 35mm stills).
     
    Guest, Jun 27, 2005
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  4. Kodak 7289 (800T), gritty-urban-grainy.
    Too bad it's discontinued, but probably still available.

    -martin-
     
    Martin Heffels, Jun 27, 2005
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  5. "Raskolnikov Alexis Friedemann" wrote ...
    You want a "gritty, urban look", but you are afraid of 8mm film
    "falling apart"? Isn't that what you are asking for?
     
    Richard Crowley, Jun 27, 2005
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  6. Raskolnikov Alexis Friedemann

    Seattle Eric Guest

    I'm talking about ORGANIC grunge, not ADDED grunge.

    If you've added grunge, you don't have to take it out. Just don't add
    it in the first place. Geez.
     
    Seattle Eric, Jun 28, 2005
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  7. Raskolnikov Alexis Friedemann

    Guest Guest

    | wrote:
    |>
    |> | If it doesn't matter, use the 16mm. You can always ADD grunge: taking
    |> | it out is a different matter.
    |>
    |> If we use a standard file of grunge,
    |
    | I'm talking about ORGANIC grunge, not ADDED grunge.
    |
    | If you've added grunge, you don't have to take it out. Just don't add
    | it in the first place. Geez.

    You can still add it and get the same effect. Shoot some 8mm film on a
    gray background for a while and digitize it. Rebalance it to near black
    level. You can then add that and get an effect similar to film without
    having to shoot film every time. And you can adjust the amount of effect
    to suit your needs. You can make a few different ones for different kinds
    of film, and even some with scratches and other stuff (I like leader marks
    sometimes).
     
    Guest, Jun 28, 2005
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