30fps video to UK PAL DVD judder problem

Discussion in 'Video Cameras' started by John Smith, Jan 7, 2009.

  1. John Smith

    John Smith Guest

    Hi all
    I have a Sanyo Xacti camcorder which produces excellent looking video
    when connected to PC or HDTV but I have a problem when creating a DVD
    for UK PAL player. In any moving scene the video has a jerky effect as if
    1 in every 6 frames has been removed, I'm wondering if in the transcoding
    that
    the frametrate has been dropped to 25fps to play on a UK system and if this
    is
    the case if there is any way to create a DVD which will have smooth video
    motion.
    I'm using Nero 8 which came with the camera to create the DVD.
    Any help with this would be very much appreciated.
     
    John Smith, Jan 7, 2009
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  2. John Smith

    John S Guest

    Thanks for your reply, I have tried a number of video converters and
    AVS Video Converter 6.2 was one of them. Unfortunately the output
    to DVD has the same judder as with Nero 8
    The fundamental problem is that the camera can only record at 30fps
    and UK DVD PAL is only 25fps. It would appear to be impossible to
    convert from 30fps to 25fps without removing frames and this is what leads
    to
    the juddery effect. I'm starting to think that to produce smooth DVD motion
    for UK one has to use a camera which can record at 25fps. Such a shame
    because
    in every other way the Xacti HD1010 is a really great little camera. I
    notice that
    the Panasonic HDC-SD9 which is similarly specced and priced
    has 25fps mode so would solve this problem.
    Still would be very pleased to hear from anyone who could solve the
    problem with the Xacti.
     
    John S, Jan 7, 2009
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  3. John Smith

    John S Guest

    Thanks very much for your follow up post. I have also come to the conclusion
    you are right that the only way to make good looking UK PAL DVD's is to use
    a
    25fps camera. I may still keep this one as I think some newer HDTV's and
    Blu Ray players
    direcly accept the SDHC cards with MP4 movies on and are happy to play at
    30fps when
    required to do so and hence look great.
    I would simply have to buy a 25fps camera (and with lower resolution too)
    to create DVD's

    Xacti HD1010 purchased in UK from Camerabox.
    I dont think they make a special model for the UK, this is the spec on the
    Sanyo UK website.
    http://uk.sanyo.com/Products/View/VPC-HD1010
     
    John S, Jan 8, 2009
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  4. MPEG 2's heavy compression gives it problems on fast moving video. That would be my guess that it's a compression issue.

    Got a Mac? Try MPEG Streamclip to vary the compression and to reencode it. Maybe you can fix it that way.
     
    chuckwagon524, Feb 10, 2009
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