35/120 proofer

Discussion in 'Darkroom Developing and Printing' started by Lew, Jul 12, 2007.

  1. Lew

    Lew Guest

    Are there any proofers out there anymore that'll proof 120 and/or 35(6
    frames x 6 strips) on an 8x10 sheet of paper? The sales people at BH are
    unfamiliar with this concept & the closest we could find in their catalog
    was $75.00!
    Lew, Jul 12, 2007
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  2. Most of the ones I know of are 7 strips of 5. Paterson used to make
    a 6 strips x 6 exposures and I think they had a 120 - try ebay.

    I just looked, they still make it -- but as you said $75 - Yikes!
    I know they go on ebay in the $15 range.

    I have a 7x5 Saunders that's sort of a pain but works well and without
    glass. I often just put the negative filing sheet in a contact frame,
    which is what I do with 120.

    I used to lay the strips on the paper by hand and lower a sheet of
    glass over them.
    Nicholas O. Lindan, Jul 12, 2007
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  3. ** Cheapest solution -

    Buy some double pane glass 10x12 (allows one inch on each side) from your
    friendly neighborhood glass shop. Double pane because of added weight
    Store negatives in clear plastic holders.
    Place glass over negatives in holders over enlarging paper.

    ** More pricey solution -

    - Patterson Pro Proofer


    - Porters Camera 35mm contact proofer


    ** Recommended solution (by me):

    - Saunders Super Proofer -35 and -120 (no glass!)


    These work like a charm! I've had mine for over 15 years and they still
    work today as well as they did when new.
    Lawrence Akutagawa, Jul 12, 2007
  4. Lew

    Draco Guest

    Using the PrintFile negative sleeves and a double thick glass pane
    larger than an 8x10 paper should cost no more than ten to fifteen
    dollars at the most. It works easier than a proofer. You need to put
    the negatives into a proofer then afterward take them out and place
    them into the negative sleeves. Using the clear negative sleeves and
    the glass to hold them to the paper is so much easier IMHO. And
    The PrintFile 35-7B for 35mm film(Holds seven strips of five
    negatives) and the 120-4B(Holds 4 strips of three negatives) fit an
    8x10 paper and fit in a standard three ring note book without sticking
    out of the cover. So you don't damage the end negatives.
    I am sorry to say that a lot of sales people today have no concept
    of Proofing negatives or making contact sheets. To much digital.


    Getting even isn't good enough.

    Doing better does.
    Draco, Jul 12, 2007
  5. Lew

    Lew Guest

    What idiot came up with this configuration for 36 exposure rolls of film?
    Lew, Jul 13, 2007
  6. Lew

    Draco Guest

    Talk to the jokers at PrintFile. I happen to like the size just
    because it fits an eight by ten sheet of paper for proofing and into a
    three ring notebook. Which is a lot cheeper than the "photo preserve"


    Getting even isn't good enough.

    Doing better does.
    Draco, Jul 13, 2007
  7. Lew

    darkroommike Guest

    Paterson makes three proofers, 35mm and 120mm format
    specific and an oversize 9x12 that's all I ever use.

    The Paterson 35mm shows up used once in a while but the
    "mask" that holds the negs is a bit of a pain and the frame
    numbers have to overlap to get it all on one sheet of paper.

    I used 8 1/2 X 11 paper for years now I just shoot 30 shots
    per roll, bulk loaded and proof 5 strips of 6 per 8x10 paper.

    BTW I don't like the Patterson 120 since it does 4 strips of
    3 (OK for 6x6 but does not work for 645). I prefer 3 strips
    of 4 and buy printfile pages since they also work for 3
    strips of 5 for 645 (if I had a Hasselblad 16 back I'd buy
    the other pages also).

    darkroommike, Jul 17, 2007
  8. I gave up wet darkroom work several years ago because of poor eyes but I
    used to proof 35 and 120 film using film strips in print file negative
    sleeves held flat on the paper with a sheet of glass - worked great and
    minimised handling of negatives

    Malcolm Smith, Jul 25, 2007
  9. I forgot to add the "Print File" brand film sleeves are clear, made of
    archival material and I bought last from B&H. This technique of proofing is
    very quick also when doing lots of films.

    Malcolm Smith, Jul 26, 2007
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