350XT Body Size/Shape/Texture and Features vs D70

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by Kyle Boatright, Mar 21, 2005.

  1. The local camera store has 350XT's in stock. I went by this afternoon and
    compared one to a Nikon D70. Now, I'm perplexed...

    The Canon's feature set is arguably better. In particular, the 2 extra MP
    and what I percieve to be a more advanced sensor put it ahead in areas that
    are fundamentally important.

    The Nikon simply feels better. I have small hands, but the Canon is much
    smaller than what feels comfortable to me. I'm sure I could get over it.
    Next, the grip texture is too fine on the Canon. Again, I could probably get
    used to that. Finally, the Canon is packaged with their 18-55mm lens, which
    simply feels cheap compared to Nikon's kit lens.

    Which leaves me with the dilemma... Buy the body with the fundamentally
    better innards (Canon) or buy the Nikon, which (seemingly) has everything
    else going for it.

    I wish Canon had spent an extra $5.00 on the body and $50 on the lens to
    make this a no-brainer...
     
    Kyle Boatright, Mar 21, 2005
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  2. Kyle Boatright

    Slack Guest

    I went thru the exact same thing you are. When I felt the D70, it felt
    perfect to me. I held out another month till the XT was in stock and went
    back to compare.

    The XT did feel too small the first 5 min., but the longer I played with
    it, it got more and more natural feeling. After about 15 min. I put it
    down and picked up the D70, now it felt grossly obese.

    The next day I went and purchased the XT... And I'm really glad I did
    because it now feels perfect. I have small hands too, btw.

    I went for the body only and sprung for the 17-85 IS lens. What the heck,
    it's only money :p
     
    Slack, Mar 22, 2005
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    Jeremy Nixon Guest

    The Canon, being newer, has more resolution, though probably not enough to
    really matter much. And lower noise, though probably not enough to notice.
    All else being equal, it certainly wins, but I don't think by enough to
    make the decision between Nikon and Canon. After all, the camera itself
    will be the one part of the equipment collection that lasts the shortest
    amount of time.
    This is a big part of the reason I strongly prefer Nikon. It's a matter
    of preference, of course, but they're designed and built better. When I
    pick up a Canon I feel like I'm holding a camera designed by someone who
    doesn't really do much photography, but designs lots of different consumer
    electronics products.

    Nikon's design isn't quite perfect. They offer quick access to settings
    I'm never going to change even one time, like image quality settings, but
    bury in menus things I would like quick access to, like autofocus mode.
    But apart from those few minor things, it's just built to be a camera.
    You hold it and don't even think about it, just use it.
    It is; Nikon's kit lens is quite good for the price. But, you don't have
    to get the kit lens with whatever camera you buy, so again, I don't think
    this should be the decision-maker.

    If you're starting from scratch, choose between Nikon and Canon, not
    between those two specific cameras, both of which will be surpassed
    within another year and obsolete within two. The lenses and other
    things you get will still be good a decade from now.
     
    Jeremy Nixon, Mar 22, 2005
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    Alan Browne Guest

    I believe K-M have licked everyone when it comes to ergonomics, and most
    of the review sites are quick to point this out. Based on the Maxxum 9
    and 7, on the 7D almost everything _photographic_ is on a DEDICATED
    switch or lever:

    -MF/AF (M,S,A,C) (dedicated knob)
    -Exp comp (dedicated knob)
    -Flash comp (dedicated knob)
    -ISO (press and turn aperture or shutter wheel to set)
    -MSET (to get at presets)
    -AF mode, AF sensor, etc. (dedicated knob).
    -AEL (Slow Sync to Nikonians) (dedicated button)
    -Meter area selector (spot, weighted, landscape) (dedicated knob)
    -AF/MF override button (dedicated button)
    -Exposure mode (M,A,S, 3-presets, 2 varieties of P) (ded knob)
    -WB (Manual, Auto, PWB, etc...) (ded button; ded knob)
    -frame-advance control (bracketing, single, multi-shot, mirror lockup,
    10sec delay) (ded. knob).
    -Aperture (wheel)
    -Shutter (wheel)
    -DOF (ded button).

    -Various digital flow access controls (alongside monitor)


    The only thing they left out is a flash mode switch (normal, rear-sync,
    wireless) which is accessed via a menu. On the Maxxum 9 this is a slide
    switch.

    The surprising thing is that you don't need to look. The controls are
    where they ought to be... (okay I have the Max 9 which has a similar
    layout, so I'm used to it).

    Things having to do with image quality are in the first three menu
    groups covering about 15 settings. Then three other menu groups for
    fluff like storage, print settings, custom settigs for all the
    switches/knobs, etc.

    Cheers,
    Alan
     
    Alan Browne, Mar 23, 2005
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  5. Hi,
    This is the reason why I went for Minolta years ago. I used an old non-AF
    SLR from my father. I went ot a camera shop with absolutely no pre-made idea
    of what I wanted (I did not even know what were the major market players at
    that time) except :
    - a lens which would be as versatile as the 35/105 I had before,
    - a direct access to mostly useful features, through dedicated buttons on
    the body and not thru awful menu systems.

    So I exposed those only 2 requirements to the guy there, he pondered a bit
    and said "I have the camera for you, it is the Minolta Dynax 600si Classic,
    and its 24/105 AF lens ; all the other current cameras have the crippled
    menu system".

    He let me play with a few bodies of that time (canon eos50, nikon f70,
    minolta 700 and 600), and obviously he was right, the only one which had
    ergonomics close to my older SLR with direct access to mostly useful
    functions was the 600 si.

    I trusted him and bought the package. I have never regretted a single time,
    it was the perfect match for me.

    When Minolta released the 7D (which I had patiently waited for), I checked :
    they kept the 600si'ish ergonomics. I adopted the 7D, it took me zero time
    to feel at ease with it.

    Regards,
     
    Stéphane Guillard, Mar 23, 2005
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