35mm film users should be mad

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by Scott W, Sep 3, 2008.

  1. Scott W

    jimkramer Guest

    This source says it could be lowering the temp.
    http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/volcanowatch/1998/98_10_22.html

    You have to go about halfway down to get to the part about SO2

    Scott

    I was ok until I realized it was a USGS link and based on a large number of
    USGS dealings, I'm suspicious.

    You also must realize if it reflects out it must also reflect in...

    -Jim
     
    jimkramer, Sep 6, 2008
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    Bruce Guest


    So what is it that volcanoes produce that counteracts the warming
    effects of increased CO2? Particulates?
     
    Bruce, Sep 6, 2008
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  3. Scott W

    jimkramer Guest

    The argument is still pretty "hot" as to SO2 real effect in the atmosphere.
    I quick web search will turn up all sorts of interesting studies - Just make
    sure you know who p(r)ayed for the studies before you gospilize them.

    Yea ole' nuclear winter comes to mind. Just block out that sun.
    -Jim
     
    jimkramer, Sep 6, 2008
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    Scott W Guest

    But what makes a greenhouse gas work is it lets visible light in but
    blocks the IR, which is re-radiated.

    Anything that blocks both visible and IR is going to cool the earth.

    After 9/11 when there were no planes flying for a few days the
    temperature over the USA drop unexpectedly, it took a while to figure
    out that the contrails had been blocking some of the sunlight.

    Scott
     
    Scott W, Sep 6, 2008
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    Scott W Guest


    I can tell you that when the VOG is thick it does not get hot that
    day. This has been a very cool summer for us. The SO2 might not do
    much but it turns into a sulfuric acid, which is hygroscopic and so
    makes a very fine mist, which does not let much light thorugh.

    Scott
     
    Scott W, Sep 6, 2008
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    mj Guest

    I live in Houston and looked into solar that would provide 450KWH. This
    would, during the summer months would run my A/C and over the remainder of
    the year cover about half of my power consumption. The cost installed,
    $30,000.
     
    mj, Sep 6, 2008
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  7. Scott W

    jimkramer Guest


    I can tell you that when the VOG is thick it does not get hot that
    day. This has been a very cool summer for us. The SO2 might not do
    much but it turns into a sulfuric acid, which is hygroscopic and so
    makes a very fine mist, which does not let much light thorugh.

    Scott

    I think what we are all forgetting is that this stuff eats film.
    -Jim
     
    jimkramer, Sep 6, 2008
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    Bruce Guest


    So that explains why Hawaii is not surrounded by thousands of square
    miles of dense forests ... or perhaps not.
     
    Bruce, Sep 6, 2008
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    mj Guest

    That is the quote for panels and installation, the pay off is 8 - 10 years
    assuming I could cash out the system, much much longer if I has to finance
    it. I did not inquire as to the price of the storage batteries as the
    initial cost of the basic system alone stop my considering solar for
    electricity. As for subsidies, I would receive $2,000 from the Feds nothing
    from the state or my provider. At this point in time solar electric
    generation is not cost effective and neither is wind. I do believe that one
    day they will be and homes in mostly sunny areas for the country will have
    solar and those in windy areas will use wind turbines and homes where
    geothermal is available will use it.
     
    mj, Sep 6, 2008
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  10. Please provide some actual numbers. Twenty minutes? Four hours? Two days?

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    Times vary greatly depending on color depth & resolution used, which in
    turn depends on the film & equipment used (I usually use 5400 dpi
    instead of 2700 dpi typically for films of 100 ISO and under and my
    better lenses), as well as whatever else is going on in the background.

    But while the film is scanning, I can do cropping and any other
    photoshop adjustments - a dual core processor really made a big
    difference there!

    Yes, in an ideal world, a super-fast scanner would be nice and will
    probably come out sometime because of the billions of film images which
    will eventually be digitalized.
     
    Stormin Mormon, Sep 12, 2008
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  11. You should put up signs, so they would not scan so close to your house.

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    I know a half dozen people who scan within 20 km of my house. I scan
    too and I don't see that stopping any time in the next decade.
     
    Stormin Mormon, Sep 12, 2008
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  12. Apartment size refrigerator?

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    Christopher A. Young
    Learn more about Jesus
    www.lds.org
    ..


    Then make the vault room really small and well insulated. Won't cost as
     
    Stormin Mormon, Sep 12, 2008
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    Colin.D Guest

    Alan Browne, 9/6/2008 8:08 AM:
    Jeez, I better stop complaining here in NZ. Our charges currently (!)
    are about 19 to 23 cents per kWh depending on the supplier, plus about
    80 cents/day line charge. Our monthly bill, running two computers all
    day, fluorescent lighting and water heating is about $NZ 160. No space
    heating, we have a wood burner.

    Colin D.
     
    Colin.D, Sep 12, 2008
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    Scott W Guest

    What on earth do you do with a wood burner :)

    We don't have house heat here, at least not at the elevation we live
    at.

    Scott
     
    Scott W, Sep 12, 2008
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    JimKramer Guest

    Typo in your post... I fixed it.
     
    JimKramer, Sep 12, 2008
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    JimKramer Guest

    History John, History. We all have some...
    -Jim
     
    JimKramer, Sep 12, 2008
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    Vagabond Guest

    Yes.

    The same thing happened to long-life horseshoes back when Henry Ford was
    making waves.
    I take about fifteen seconds to really piss my mother-in-law off. I should
    be able to do it in three seconds.

    Hi Scott.

    Regards

    Tony
     
    Vagabond, Sep 13, 2008
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    Rol_Lei Nut Guest

    Cue Scott W:
    "The number of horses has decreased drastically since 1900. At this rate
    they'll soon be extinct.
    If you go to a parking lot, you won't see any horses tied up there.
    If you stable a horse on a volcano, the fumes will make it sick and it
    will die."

    :)
     
    Rol_Lei Nut, Sep 13, 2008
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  19. Scott W

    jimkramer Guest

    Interesting point sample: there are 12 horses within 1000 feet of my house,
    none of them are mine. No volcanoes here though. :-(

    You won't find horses in parking lots because there are no hitching posts
    and the fines for crapping in the streets is by the pound. :)

    -Jim
     
    jimkramer, Sep 13, 2008
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    Colin.D Guest

    Scott W, 9/12/2008 11:58 PM:
    Surprise! We burn wood, usually offcuts from sawmills. Winter temps
    here are typically 0 to 7 deg C overnight, 10 to 14 deg C days, too cold
    to sit at a computer. Gotta be these old bones, I won't see 70 again.

    Colin D.
     
    Colin.D, Sep 14, 2008
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