35mm(?) slide transparency mount question.

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by Pheasant Plucker®, Jan 15, 2005.

  1. Going through my Dad's slide collection I noticed that he has a number of
    transparencies whose outside dimensions match those of the usual 35mm
    transparency slide mounts and fit a regular 35mm projector but whose inside
    diameter is greater than that of 35mm film...

    Apparently from 1960-1963 before he used Kodak developed slide film returned
    in their own slide mounts those early transparencies seemed to be a larger
    format than 35mm - he tells me they used to return the developed film and he
    used to mount them himself in brown cardboard slide mounts.

    The overall dimensions are identical to the standard 35mm slide mounts @
    50x50mm (2" square) - it is just the 'window' in the middle that is larger
    with the result that the 'frame' around the transparency is slimmer.

    Would anyone happen to know what type/size/format those early transparencies
    might be and if slide mounts might still be available for them?

    The film itself is @ 43x43mm - in those days that would equate to @1 3/4"

    The cardboard mounts are coming apart and will probably jam up an
    auto-loading mechanism so I would like to mount them again but standard 35mm
    slide mounts would necessitate cutting the transparency to fit - this seems
    such a waste and the slides are good quality and framed nicely - chopping
    them up to fit seems like sacrilege...
    Pheasant Plucker®, Jan 15, 2005
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    Tony Guest

    127 was mounted in the same size as 35mm, as were 126 and half frame 35mm.
    Prolly a couple other sizes too.
    Tony, Jan 15, 2005
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    westin Guest

    I bet you have some 127 transparencies. This was a paper-backed roll film
    format mainly used in entry-level cameras.

    I bet a Google for "127 slide mounts" would turn something up.
    westin, Jan 16, 2005
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    Colin D Guest

    That film was a version of the Kodak Instamatic series, known as a 126.
    It was a cartridge based system, with 28mm square negatives. See:


    Colin D, Jan 16, 2005
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    Peter Irwin Guest

    These are "superslides" from 127 film. You can get plastic slide
    mounts for these from J&C photogaphy <www.jandcphoto.com>. Look
    under 127.

    If you have an old photostore near you, you might ask them about
    mounts for superslides. Until fairly recent times, there used to
    be equipement for people to cut and mount cropped 120 slides in
    superslide mounts, so it is not impossible for an old pro store
    to have a bunch of the slide mounts.

    Peter Irwin, Jan 16, 2005
  6. Like the Rolleiflex 4x4?

    That "entry level" camera will still kick the a***s of most 35mm equipment!
    Chris Loffredo, Jan 16, 2005
  7. Thanks for all the answers.

    Looks like what I have are 127 superslides...

    Now if only I could find some mounts in the UK I would be a happy man!

    Thanks & regards,
    Pheasant Plucker®, Jan 17, 2005
  8. Foto Impex in Berlin do mail order:

    They still sell 127 film. Don't know about the slide mounts. No harm
    asking, they'll know if anyone does...
    Chris Loffredo, Jan 17, 2005
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    westin Guest

    I did say "mainly". I recall a Kodak my brother had, and an Ansco of
    mine. Point-and-shoot, fixed focus, built-in flash (AG1, as I
    recall), and plastic body.
    Well, yes, and Kodak had a German-made Instamatic Reflex. But 126 was
    still mainly used in low-end cameras.
    westin, Jan 18, 2005
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    westin Guest

    So how were his 43mm square negatives made with a camera that only exposes
    28mm square? The entire 126 film was only 35mm wide.

    I really think it's 127.
    westin, Jan 18, 2005
  11. I have a Yashica 4x4 which is the cheap knockoff of the Baby Rollei
    (4x4) and you can get Ektachrome in 127 size (Try Film for Classics for
    one) and either have them develop it or develop it yourself and buy the
    mounts. Fits in 2x2 mount and projects a gorgeous image.
    Michael Weinstein, Jan 19, 2005
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