4:3 16:9

Discussion in 'Video Cameras' started by Luke Harris, Jul 8, 2003.

  1. Luke Harris

    Luke Harris Guest

    Hello, we will be shooting a film soon on 2 digital cameras; a panasonic
    DVCPro and a JVC miniDV. The problem is, the film is supposed to be in
    widescreen. Only our JVC supports widescreen so our initial plan is to use
    that in 16:9, with the other shooting 4:3, then simply crop the top and
    bottom off it.

    When the film renders out then from our Edit what we will get is a 4:3 frame
    with black bars top and bottom and the image in between. I know this is not
    exactly an ideal setup and is really not widescreen (only 16:9 size picture
    within 4:3 frame). So I would like anyone's adivce on how they would tackle
    this. hmmm its not an ideal situation but we are on an extremely tight
    budget...

    thanks guys, any warnings to avoid any nasty pifalls or anything would be
    great

    Luke
     
    Luke Harris, Jul 8, 2003
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    Tony Morgan Guest

    Sorry, the above link gives little information. However, pages 178/179
    of the manual gives some information. It seems that Vegas 4 auto-detects
    and adjusts the pixel aspect ratio clip-by-clip to suit the video
    (assuming you use scenedetect). Vegas also gives you the option of
    changing the pixel aspect ration if the auto-adjust doesn't handle
    things correctly - again on pages 178/179 of the manual.

    I haven't used this, so I'm only pointing you to the manual.
     
    Tony Morgan, Jul 8, 2003
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  3. Luke Harris

    Tony Morgan Guest


    Snipped....
    Sorry to keep posting answers/amendments.

    I've just opened Vegas and found that within the 19 codecs provided as
    standard, there are two widescreen codecs - one for PAL and one for
    NTSC.
     
    Tony Morgan, Jul 8, 2003
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  4. Hello, we will be shooting a film soon on 2 digital cameras; a panasonic
    I'm sure you'll find a way to crop the 4:3 material to simulate 16:9.
    However, I suspect that the result won't match the footage shot in
    real 16:9 - there will be quite obvious quality difference between
    scenes shot on the two cameras.

    Make sure you do some test shooting before the real thing, and see if
    this is a problem.
     
    Laurence Payne, Jul 9, 2003
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  5. Luke Harris

    Luke Harris Guest

    Thanks guys for those replies. In the mean time our situation has changed a
    little...

    Our DVCPro camera (the one that would shoot in 4:3) had been sent back to
    panavision for a checkup. The camera was working without any major problems
    really before we sent it. When it was away they told us that our heads
    needed alignment and it was cost something that we simply could not afford.
    We told them not to carry out any repair work and just send it back to us
    and we would use it as is. We got the camera back today - guess what - it
    doesn't work. The tape is not being taken up at all and just sits lifelessly
    when inserted. The rest of the camera works ok.

    Where do we stand in this situation? Is panavision at fault for returning
    the camera to us in worse condition and should they send us a replacement
    until they repair our camera back to how it was, or what?

    Thanks again, at least this means I don't have to worry about the 16:9 issue
    for now!
     
    Luke Harris, Jul 10, 2003
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  6. Luke Harris

    Jerry. Guest

    <snip>

    If you use Premiere then have a look at this site
    http://www.mykaskin.freeserve.co.uk/myksvideopages/, it's a plug-in that
    should allow you to ARC your 4:3 to 16:9. (or vice-versa etc.)

    I knew I had the URL somewhere.....
     
    Jerry., Jul 12, 2003
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