7D full review at dpreview

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by Charles, Nov 6, 2009.

  1. Charles

    Charles Guest

    A very positive review.
     
    Charles, Nov 6, 2009
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    NameHere Guest

    The two most important requirements of the talentless hack snapshooter
    requiring the ultimate in P&S DSLRs.
     
    NameHere, Nov 7, 2009
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  3. Charles

    Ray Fischer Guest

    Gimme.
     
    Ray Fischer, Nov 7, 2009
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  4. Charles

    Ray Fischer Guest

    What a stupid statement. Do you expect perfection from EVERY product
    you buy? Does a $100,000 house last for 100 years with no problems?
    Do $30,000 cars never have recalls? Does $500 software have no bugs
    or updates?
     
    Ray Fischer, Nov 7, 2009
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  5. Charles

    Ray Fischer Guest

    Too inconvenient.
    LOL! You should learn something before you make such ridiculous
    claims.
    Just define any bugs to be "features".

    [...]
    Are you a software engineer?

    I am. Your statement is ridiculous.
     
    Ray Fischer, Nov 7, 2009
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  6. Charles

    Ray Fischer Guest

    But you don't mind when a car that costs 20 times as much needs to be
    serviced every few months.
    So now you're reduced to lying.
    Try thinking some time. You might learn something.
     
    Ray Fischer, Nov 7, 2009
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  7. Charles

    Charles Guest

    Now, as to the auto-focus issues that some users are reporting. I think:

    1/ Most of them are due to a misunderstanding of how this camera functions.
    2/ There is a real problem for others (perhaps a minority) who know what
    they are doing.
    3/ Canon fessed up to the ghosting issue ... will they (can they) correct
    the AF issue, given that it is a real issue? The 7D has a separate AF
    processor (as far as I can tell) and that leads one to believe that a
    firmware update can fix that nasty AF issue. However, it could be a
    mechanical tolerance issue, and that could be unfortunate for early buyers.

    Kudos to Canon for advancing a stunning new camera. It really is. Now, we
    must wait to see if they can fine tune it so as to please most of us.
     
    Charles, Nov 7, 2009
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  8. Charles

    Ray Fischer Guest

    Either your memory is very selective or you're being dishonest.
    Here's a clue, idiot: ALL complex products have flaws. For you to
    whine about Canon while ignoring all the other makers' flaw just shows
    that you have an agenda.
    From what I have read you're a dishonest idiot.
     
    Ray Fischer, Nov 7, 2009
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  9. Charles

    Charles Guest

    Big Snip
    The AF issues are real.

    No doubt that many AF-7D posts are from first-time digital SLR buyers who
    don't know how to use their new camera, BUT, this is a real issue for the
    7D. QA (quality assurance) will kick in and this issue will be solved. I
    have faith in Canon.
     
    Charles, Nov 7, 2009
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  10. Charles

    J. Clarke Guest

    Huh, a recall on certain serial numbers of one model does not establish "a
    reputation for faulty AF systems", it establishes that they had a
    manufacturing defect in a specific lot.
     
    J. Clarke, Nov 7, 2009
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  11. Charles

    J. Clarke Guest

    Must not drive much then. In the US 12,000 miles a year is typical and
    service intervals by the book are typically about 6,000 miles although
    people who are diligent about service change the oil every 3,000 or so. I
    did have one Toyota that had a by the book service interval of 12,000 miles
    but the engine blew before the first scheduled service.
     
    J. Clarke, Nov 7, 2009
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    Bruce Guest


    Canon's reputation for faulty AF systems was well established
    *long before* the announcement of the EOS 7D.
     
    Bruce, Nov 8, 2009
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  13. Charles

    Ray Fischer Guest

    I think you're a naive fool who doesn't realize how expensive products
    would be if they were truly to be delivered without any problems.

    What kind of camera do YOU own? Is it a $5000 Leica? A $20,000
    Hasselblad? Or did YOU decide that quality was too expensive for you?
    Bullshit.
     
    Ray Fischer, Nov 8, 2009
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  14. Charles

    Ray Fischer Guest

    Gee, car manufacturers recommend at least an oil change every 5000 to
    8000 miles.
    You're an idiot.

    Ever hear of something called "inflation"?
     
    Ray Fischer, Nov 8, 2009
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  15. Charles

    Ray Fischer Guest

    It's not different in the UK.
    What car was it?
     
    Ray Fischer, Nov 8, 2009
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  16. Charles

    Ray Fischer Guest

    By Nikon?
     
    Ray Fischer, Nov 8, 2009
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  17. Charles

    Ray Fischer Guest

    Is Rich a liar and an anti-Canon bigot?

    Yes.
     
    Ray Fischer, Nov 8, 2009
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  18. Charles

    Ray Fischer Guest

    With your insistence on perfection in products one wonders why you
    chose a budget VW instead of some other perfect car that didn't need
    regular servicing.
     
    Ray Fischer, Nov 8, 2009
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  19. Sounds funny. So you'd buy from Microsoft (a company with a
    reputation for security problems and (often long-standing unfixed)
    bugs) and expect no security problems or bugs whatsoever?
    So you say because MS is known bad with security problems and
    bugs (way way way more known bad than Canon can ever be with AF
    problems), Windows 7 will be absolutely secure and bugfree?


    While I do not share your belief regarding Canon and AF,
    I find your logic severely broken, completely backwards and
    out-of-this-world unrealistic! Just as well give all your money to
    the Lehmann brothers, after all, they know all about bancrupcy ...

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Nov 9, 2009
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  20. Charles

    Paul J Gans Guest

    That's wrong in this context. And I suspect you know it. Yes,
    complex software can have obscure bugs that show up only under
    certain strange conditions.

    But this is a serious flaw in the AUTOFOCUSSING SYSTEM! You'd
    think that this would have been subject to quality control tests
    before shipment, right? It is neither obscure nor a bug that
    shows up only under certain strange conditions.

    It is something like buying a car and finding that the steering
    wheel doesn't work.
    Previous models have suffered from this. You could check it out.
     
    Paul J Gans, Nov 9, 2009
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