7D full review at dpreview

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Charles, Nov 6, 2009.

  1. Charles

    Charles Guest

    Very positive!
     
    Charles, Nov 6, 2009
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    Ray Fischer Guest

    Your pet feature isn't considered useful by a lot of people.
     
    Ray Fischer, Nov 7, 2009
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  3. Charles

    Ofnuts Guest

    Where is RichA when we need him? :)
     
    Ofnuts, Nov 7, 2009
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  4. Charles

    Ray Fischer Guest

    1) Hiding
    2) Writing an attack of DPReview
     
    Ray Fischer, Nov 7, 2009
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  5. It's only considered not useful by pretend-photographer trolls who have
    never used any cameras at all, or uncreative snapshooters who have never
    taken a photograph from any other position than standing up, camera held at
    the same level as their head. Judging by how many trolls here are like
    that, then you would be correct to say "isn't considered useful by a lot of
    usenet trolls and piss-poor snapshooters."
     
    Educationg Trolls Is An Endless Task, Nov 7, 2009
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  6. Charles

    Ray Fischer Guest

    People like you.
     
    Ray Fischer, Nov 7, 2009
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  7. Charles

    Ray Fischer Guest

    Other people consider durability to be more important. A swivel
    finder is a signifant weak point in any camera.
     
    Ray Fischer, Nov 7, 2009
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  8. Charles

    Ray Fischer Guest

    And since the camera is intended for people who make heavy use of a
    camera it would be considered by most to be a significant liability to
    have such a weak point.
    Then it becomes just what Canon is selling except that it would cost a
    lot more and make the camera much bigger and less durable.
     
    Ray Fischer, Nov 7, 2009
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  9. So says the pretend-photographer role-playing troll that doesn't realize
    how they are even used, most likely never used one himself, if he ever use
    any camera at all. They are only swung out from the camera and reversed to
    the viewer when needed. Otherwise they fold flat against the camera and
    lock in place. Especially nice are the ones where the LCD faces the camera
    body when folded flat for storage while you are using the EVF. Then not
    even the more delicate LCD screen is prone to nose-oil, dust, fingerprints,
    scratches, or impacts. Though, I must admit, the LCD screen on an older
    Sony camera (reticulated body mounted with the LCD) which can't be folded
    away from the user is remarkably durable. It's been in sandstorms, survived
    a tumble down a tailings-pile from the top of a mountain mine when
    documenting quartz mining (while I tried to protect is as well as I could
    as I went along for the ride). Another time it went along a controlled-fall
    descent while I slid down a terminal-moraine when photographing glacier
    habitats. Part of the AR coating eventually wore off in small part of a
    corner outside the useful viewing area over the years of use, that corner
    being under the side of the thumb where it makes normal contact. But not
    one scratch on the LCD screen itself after 7 years of heavy use in harsh
    and rugged environments. I sometimes wonder if it wasn't covered with a
    quartz window. It'd be about the only thing that could account for its
    robust durability.
     
    Outing Trolls is FUN!, Nov 7, 2009
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  10. Charles

    Ray Fischer Guest

    Go away, asshole troll.
     
    Ray Fischer, Nov 7, 2009
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  11. Charles

    Ray Fischer Guest

    Then don't try. If you want a swivel screen then there are many P&S
    cameras that have them.
    How would you know?
     
    Ray Fischer, Nov 8, 2009
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  12. Charles

    Ray Fischer Guest

    Ray Fischer, Nov 8, 2009
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  13. Charles

    Ray Fischer Guest

    Which two cameras?
     
    Ray Fischer, Nov 8, 2009
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  14. Charles

    SamSez Guest

    No auto CA correction.
     
    SamSez, Nov 9, 2009
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  15. I'll not argue about size --- except to point out that there is
    usually a size difference between low end and high end models
    (even with the same crop factor).

    I'll argue that pricing is driven by marketing, not by production
    and design costs (except for a lower limit below which you've
    got a loss leader or a 'cheap razor, expensive blades' mixed
    calculation). Hence: you cannot tell if a swivel finder makes
    the camera significantly more expensive, even if you were to
    compare otherwise completely identical models (which you didn't
    as there aren't, to my best knowledge). At best you'd find out
    what marketing thinks a swivel LCD is worth --- and if we take
    your word, "not much" is the answer.

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Nov 9, 2009
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  16. Charles

    Ray Fischer Guest

    Almost double the price going fromk 10MP to 12MP?

    And from DPReview ...

    The D5000 is something of a departure for Nikon - it's bigger than
    the D40/D60 sized cameras but still smaller than the D80/D90 body
    style. And it's not exactly what we'd call pretty. From a
    conceptual point of view, the D5000 is most of a D90 shoe-horned
    into a D60 body with an articulated screen added to the back, and
    it looks as if the designers took that as an instruction for what
    it should look like. It's adorned with a profusion of bumps, lumps
    and nubs.

    In many respects, the D5000 harks back to the D50 - it's a
    surprisingly large compared to its peers and, unlike recent little
    Nikons, has a feature set that will prompt many a debate about
    whether to buy this camera or the model above.
     
    Ray Fischer, Nov 9, 2009
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  17. Charles

    Ray Fischer Guest

    Because the camera doesn't have to use cheap lenses. You can actually
    use lenses that don't need correction for chromatic aberration. And
    because it's absurd to expect the camera to have a database for
    dozens to hundreds of lenses, some of which don't even exist yet.
     
    Ray Fischer, Nov 9, 2009
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  18. NO lens exists that is 100% free from CA, unless you consider an all-mirror
    lens system.

    Only a clueless moron troll like yourself wouldn't know this.
     
    Outing Trolls is FUN!, Nov 9, 2009
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  19. Charles

    Ray Fischer Guest

    Go away, lying troll.
     
    Ray Fischer, Nov 9, 2009
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  20. Charles

    Ray Fischer Guest

    Spare me the bullshit rationalizations.
     
    Ray Fischer, Nov 10, 2009
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