8 MP digital chip flaw?

Discussion in 'Photography' started by Edw. Peach, Oct 1, 2004.

  1. Edw. Peach

    Edw. Peach Guest

    I heard from a second source that a recent 8 MP chip that was used in
    Sony and Minolta cameras was flawed. Does anybody know anything about
    this, and if so, where I can get more details on the alleged flaw?

    Thanks.
     
    Edw. Peach, Oct 1, 2004
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    Kay Guest

    Do you mean the 8 Megabyte memory card or something in an 8 Megapixel
    camera?

    If it's the 8 Mb memory card, who cares, it's all but useless anyway because
    you will have to buy more memory.


    I heard from a second source that a recent 8 MP chip that was used in
    Sony and Minolta cameras was flawed. Does anybody know anything about
    this, and if so, where I can get more details on the alleged flaw?

    Thanks.
     
    Kay, Oct 1, 2004
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    Edw. Peach Guest

    The CHIP...C-H-I-P. The computer chip INSIDE the camera.
     
    Edw. Peach, Oct 1, 2004
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  4. But the computers inside cameras aren't usually referred to as having
    Megapixels. There's usually one or two 8, 16 or 32bit microcontrollers for
    all the mechanical system management and a signal processor for the image
    processing and data compression. Now they all have computer chips,,,
     
    Steve Maudsley, Oct 1, 2004
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  5. You would expect quality from Sony or Minolta to begin with?
     
    Randall Ainsworth, Oct 1, 2004
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    Chris Down Guest


    I think you mean Sensor.. S-E-N-S-O-R ....


    And I have no idea about the rumour
     
    Chris Down, Oct 1, 2004
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    Bruce Chang Guest


    I used to expect intelligent replies.
     
    Bruce Chang, Oct 1, 2004
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  8. From Sony, normally not... But now that Nikon is getting the
    D2X sensor manufactured (or is it designed?) by Sony, I may
    well start expecting good stuff from them! ;-)

    Carlos
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    Carlos Moreno, Oct 1, 2004
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  9. Edw. Peach

    Edw. Peach Guest

    Excuse me, then. Let's try it this way...the camera computer chip
    that is used in the 8 MP cameras. I am not a technican, but need to
    find out if recent 8 MP cameras sold by Sony, Minolta, maybe others,
    have some problems that attributed to the chip that is used in these
    cameras.

    Do you know?
     
    Edw. Peach, Oct 2, 2004
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  10. Edw. Peach

    Edw. Peach Guest

    On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 13:52:59 -0400, Carlos Moreno

    So...nobody has heard of any particular problems with the recent 8 MP
    Sony or Minolta cameras, right?
     
    Edw. Peach, Oct 2, 2004
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  11. If you waste your money on either a Sony or Minolta digital camera, you
    deserve everything you get.
     
    Randall Ainsworth, Oct 2, 2004
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    james Guest

    Nope. For some reviews that might help go to this link:
    http://www.dpreview.com

    There are a ton of product reviews on digital cameras including those you
    are wanting information on.
    And if you look in the Forums section (left side of screen) you can read a
    ton of user input on a lot of popular DSLR's and other digital cameras.
    hope that helps.
    james
     
    james, Oct 2, 2004
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    Stephan Guest

    If you waste your time reading Ainsworth you deserve everything you read.

    Stephan
     
    Stephan, Oct 2, 2004
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  14. Still don't see you defending Sony or Minolta.

    Sony might be OK if you're buying a Walkman, but not for photographic
    products.

    Minolta has never made a camera that I'd spend money on. They've
    always been off in their own little world. A lot of uneducated
    amateurs were duped by them through the years.
     
    Randall Ainsworth, Oct 2, 2004
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    roger Guest

    Yes indeed, Sony is manufacturing the new nikon sensor. And yes, sony
    has had some issues with the quality of images coming out of their
    cameras in the past. Aside from having (as usual) way too many
    different models, the current crop is actually quite good. The W1 is
    one of the finest cameras i have seen sony ever make, fast,
    responsive, sharp, and great picture quality, not to mention the fact
    that i think they did a great job on the design. The T1 is a great
    pocket camera, although the chip is slightly smaller than the W1. The
    P-120 is also great on the picture quality on full auto, but it is
    lacking some of the neat features that the W1 has for the same price.
    All these are 5 megapixels, however, and avoid the original question.
    As far as 8 megapixel sensors are concerned, the 828 has the emerald
    layer, which frankly does not seem to do much for enhancing image
    tones as the ads state. When viewing prints between that and other
    high-mega pixel cameras. The only flaw i am really aware of is a very
    weird one, on early production models (which unless you buy the camera
    somewhere with really low turn-around rates, you are pretty sure not
    to get one) when you screwed on the wide angle lens the screen went
    haywire and bands go latteraly across a solid blue screen. This makes
    no sense to me at all from a science standpoint, but i have seen it
    with my own eyes. I have had many customers however be thrilled with
    the 828 and the return rate and defective rate is very low.
    Minolta, however, just really doesn't make reliable cameras. They
    have a higher rate of repairs than other brands (OK, the optio S4i
    really wins the contest for the most fragile camera on the planet, but
    that's a different group) and the A series is notorious for draining
    batteries like there is no tommorrow. The A2 seems solid enough, but
    picture quality just isn't as high as other cameras in its class.
    Images are not that sharp all the way through and the color balance
    isn't fantastic. Shutter lag time is better than the predessessor but
    still not as good as the slr's. The anti-shake feature is gimmicky at
    best, it provides a little bit of help, but a monopod, altough a pain
    to carry around sometimes, has exactly the same effect.
    It was super nice of Konica to bail Minolta out and buy them, so the
    name could continue on, but their cameras aren't the best for final
    image quality.
    When it comes down to it though, if you have a grand to spend on a
    digital camera, just get one of the SLR's. Even if you never change
    the lens, the sensors are more acurate, focus faster, shutter lag
    miniscule, and picture quality unbeatable. You will thank yourself
    down the road when you look at pictures from today.
    Hope that helps, maybe some of the previous posters will put on their
    helpful hats next time instead of barking so much.
    roger
     
    roger, Oct 2, 2004
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  16. Edw. Peach

    Edw. Peach Guest

    Actually, it doesn't help, but I do appreciate you trying to be
    helpful. I will go back to the source and see if I can get some
    specific information there. This forum has been totally useless this
    time. I don't get why people here are so caught up on side issues
    (like if I was calling a 'chip' a chip), especially since those people
    probably knew what I meant. Perhaps it was just a matter of them
    being bored, and not having any useful information to share.

    I've used this forum before and have gotten good information from
    friendly people. If I knew something I would share that information
    myself gladly.
     
    Edw. Peach, Oct 2, 2004
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    Edw. Peach Guest

    On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 20:44:36 -0700, Randall Ainsworth

    Then since your comment is useless here, why don't you start one of
    your own where you can rag on Sony and Minolta all you want? Do you
    really think someone reading your outburst is going to change their
    mind just because you rant and make rude comments?
     
    Edw. Peach, Oct 2, 2004
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    Edw. Peach Guest

    I'm not trying to start up with you Randall Answorth, as I think you
    are entitled to your opinions.

    However, with such an outrageous statement, I'm sure you can back it
    up and can tell from viewing any photo (based on its poor quality, or
    whatever criteria you use for totally dismissing all their products)
    that any particular shot was made with a Sony or Minolta camera.
     
    Edw. Peach, Oct 2, 2004
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  19. Sony probaby makes OK stereo systems.

    But my main beef would be with Minolta. I've never liked their stuff.
    It's like their engineering department just didn't get it. And back in
    the 70s they had lots of quality control problems. Amateurs sucked 'em
    up because they were affordable and had lots of whiz-bang features, but
    real pros stayed away.
     
    Randall Ainsworth, Oct 2, 2004
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    Dirty Harry Guest

    Dirty Harry, Oct 2, 2004
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