8GB compact flash announced!

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Fuzzy Logic, Feb 12, 2004.

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    Fuzzy Logic Guest

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    Don Coon Guest

    Don Coon, Feb 12, 2004
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    IMKen Guest

    Just imagine, you have just completed a week long shoot of some special
    event, perhaps a wedding, a once in a lifetime vacation or other significant
    event. You go to download your cherished photos and the card corrupts.
    It happens all too often. No thanks, I don't want an 8 gig card even if
    free. I'll stick to a bundle of 256 cards.

    Ken
     
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    Tony Assauer Guest

    Total ACK. Especially as the smaller cards have usually the better price per
    MB value, I would also prefer to have some 512 MB cards instead of 2, 4 or
    even 8 GB cards. The cards are very small and easy to exchange - especially
    compared to classic film material ;-) So actually there is no need to have
    such huge cards.
     
    Tony Assauer, Feb 12, 2004
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    Mark M Guest

    I can think of far better ways to deal with memory issues with $5,999.
    Sheesh.

    I guess the good side is that these new barrier breakers will eventually
    spread and push other makers up in memory capacity and down in price...but
    $6K is just a silly expenditure...unless you're in some sort of diving suit
    at 1000 feet down, and can't change cards for a LOOOONG dive...

    There are surely exceptions, but for 99.99999% of shooters, this is not a
    good solution...YET.
    It will be sooner or later.
     
    Mark M, Feb 13, 2004
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    Mark M Guest

    Safety concerns will change as file-size per shot increase.
    256MB is simply inadequate fo ra guy that will soon be shooting a Canon 1Ds
    Mark II, which could fill a 256MB card in less than 2 bursts of continuous
    shots at full res, and 8.3 fps.

    For many (myself included), it's not a question of how many MB are at risk
    of loss, but how many SHOTS are at risk. Shot numbers keep going down per
    MB. With this, willingness to use larger cards will continue to change.
     
    Mark M, Feb 13, 2004
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    Trevor S Guest

    :) that's what they said about 640KB or RAM, HDD drives blah balh blah blah

    Luckily you guys aren't in charge of capacity :)

    Bring 'em on I say !



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    Trevor S


    "Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth."
    -Albert Einstein
     
    Trevor S, Feb 13, 2004
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    Mikey S. Guest

    It might be less time than we think, I remember not too long ago looking at
    an ad for a 1 gig card for some crazy multi thousand dollar price and
    shaking my head , I bought one last month for around $200.
     
    Mikey S., Feb 13, 2004
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    Mark M Guest

    You misunderstand. I don't need help with math. :)
    I'm simply saying that as cameras shoot larger and larger image files,
    larger cards will be filled more and more quickly, with fewer shots--as each
    shot requires more MB. With this, the number of shots risked to a single
    larger card will be fewer than are risked using today's cameras and large
    cards.

    A 1Ds user shooting 11.3MP with each exposure would be quite irritated with
    a 256MB card...
    ....while I shooter with a 2MP camera would not, since they would be able to
    shoot far more on that smaller card.
    Yes! That's all I was getting at.
    It's about # of IMAGES at risk...not MB at risk.
     
    Mark M, Feb 13, 2004
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    Mark M Guest

    I would wager that a 1D Mark II could indeed fill that card without a
    battery change.
    That camera will be able to shoot about 160MB of data in about 3 seconds.
     
    Mark M, Feb 14, 2004
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    JPS Guest

    In message <x9iXb.25039$>,
    I don't like the idea of putting all my eggs in a single basket, but
    running out of memory on a card is a big deal; it really is. Needing to
    change a card when the action you've been waiting for all day is finally
    happening is a real pain in the ass. You are also much more likely to
    have a mishap at this point in time, as you are much more likely to try
    to eject the card while it's still being written to. The 10D can get
    very slow at writing to the card when it gets near the end, I guess due
    to fragmentation issues, and it can still be writing *long* after you
    took the last picture. I'm talking about a couple of minutes here.

    I've lost potentially great photos because the camera said "cf full"
    when in fact it was still writing, and had merely estimated that no
    further images could be taken. Well, I've learned the hard way that
    that doesn't mean it's really already full, but I still get stuck
    waiting for the card to do its long final writes, especially if I
    haven't reformatted it in a while, or have deleted shots along the way.
    --
     
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    Larry Guest



    Still and all its better than changing rolls of film in the middle of
    shooting.

    I lost some great shots because I was changing rolls, or changing film
    types.

    I have found that GUESTIMATING how many shots will fit on a memory card
    and changing when it gets CLOSE to full is a damn sight better than
    KNOWING you are running out and having to change film rolls.

    Then there was/is the changing lighting conditions mother nature can
    throw at you and you might lose a picture 'cause you dont have a certain
    film type with you, or if you do you need to change NOW while the action
    is happening.

    At least now you dont have to have a "certain type of card" for a
    "certain type of condition".

    If a cloud passes before the sun, or the lighting fails or it just runs
    late and the sun goes down, you only need to press a button or two (or
    hook-up the flash) and shoot away!.

    Larry
    Mystic
     
    Larry, Feb 14, 2004
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    Mark M Guest

    I agree...
    ....And aside from semiconductor failure--you also run the more simple risk
    of dropping cards in mud, sand, grit, etc. Worse still...there is often
    unseen residue on cards (water, oils, dust, etc.) that are then introduced
    to the INSIDE of the camera. This cannot be cleaned out, and leads to other
    problems.

    In my estimation, these factors are potentially far worse in terms of threat
    than card errors.
    And BTW...I have YET to have a **single** error with any of my 3 1GB
    midrodrives, and that's after somewhere in teh neighborhood of 40,000 images
    shot. Not one single error of any kind. Perhaps I'm lucky, but it is also
    true that I rarely have to remove my cards in a hurry, or when in
    compromised conditions.
     
    Mark M, Feb 18, 2004
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    George Guest

    Of course, the other side of all this is that already a 4GB 40X CF card goes
    for over $1200 at B&H. Who is going to rush out and buy a $2500 CF card?
    Will you be upset if IT happens to be the "one in n" that fails? I don't
    think too many amateurs are going to care about 8GB CF cards until prices
    decline, at least a bit. I think I'd rather have a smaller card and some
    sort of RF link to a PC (Bluetooth, 802.11g, 802.11a, 802.11b) to download
    as you could buy a decent portable PC with Wi-Fi or Bluetooth for the cost
    of a CF card. Right now, I am glad I don't have too many $$$ in digital as
    it is all changing too fast unless you are using it to earn a
    living...yesterday's $8k body is tomorrow's landfill (or so it seems).

    George
     
    George, Feb 19, 2004
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    George Guest

    That surprises me with microdrives as I've heard that they aren't too
    reliable (they are electro-mechanical disk drives after all and the larger,
    home ones that don't go anywhere don't seem to fare THAT much better than
    your microdrives).
     
    George, Feb 19, 2004
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