A Banjo Player Exercise for All

Discussion in 'Photography' started by Savageduck, Sep 12, 2012.

  1. Savageduck

    Savageduck Guest

    OK! Tony and others, since we are into this game, here is my
    contribution for this week.

    I am providing an unadjusted JPEG, and a zeroed dng. So all who wish to
    play have at it. There is no mandate, or purpose in this exercise other
    than to see what each of you can come up with as a fix. Have at it, and
    crop and tweak as you will.

    The JPEG:
    < http://db.tt/7r8ZU26O >

    ....and the dng. Just click on the url and the download should start.
    < http://db.tt/OSebx0dM >
     
    Savageduck, Sep 12, 2012
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  2. Okay. It's fun to play.

    Here's one cut at it
    <http://dd-b.net/phost/2012/0900-usenet/DNC_1450-Exercise-ddb.jpg>.
    Some of the work is quick-and-dirty; good enough for me, at least, to
    have a vague opinion on whether I like the approach.

    I'll leave commenting until later. Hope I can remember why I chose what
    I did!
     
    David Dyer-Bennet, Sep 12, 2012
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  3. I downloaded it, and deleted it.

    I'll be very interested in what others do with it, and I
    may end up extremely impressed with what someone else
    can make from it. It's just I don't see anything that
    I'm going to do that would be worth anyone's time to
    look at.
     
    Floyd L. Davidson, Sep 12, 2012
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  4. Savageduck

    Savageduck Guest

    Aaw! Come on Floyd, use your imagination. Think crop first, the other
    stuff will come to you.
     
    Savageduck, Sep 12, 2012
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  5. Savageduck

    Savageduck Guest

    Here is what I came up with:
    < http://db.tt/bVsuodto >
     
    Savageduck, Sep 12, 2012
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  6. Savageduck

    tony cooper Guest

    I kinda agree with Floyd, here. It's not an image that I'd spend any
    time on if it was one of mine. It lacks interest.

    I've done several shots of buskers, and abandoned a lot of 'em for the
    same reasons that I'd abandon this one. The man isn't connecting with
    camera or connecting with his instrument. A frontal shot, showing the
    man's face could work, or a shot where he is raptly engaged with his
    banjo could work. There's also a lot of sun-blown areas where the
    detail is lost.

    The other thing I look for in a busker shot is some added human
    interest factor. Something like this:

    http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/Other/Candids/i-jSfMwfR/0/X3/2011-08-04-152J-X3.jpg

    or this:

    http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/Other/Candids/i-wgBtvDJ/0/X3/2011-12-15-40B-X3.jpg
    although this one suffers from the blow-out on the guitar.


    I will give yours a go as a "rescue" effort, though.
     
    tony cooper, Sep 12, 2012
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  7. Savageduck

    Savageduck Guest

    I didn't say this was a compositional masterpiece. There is so much
    wrong. It pretty much ended up in my "might have worked, but on later
    reflection needs too much help" bin. So I was curious to see what
    others might be able to make of it.

    Anyway, have at it, or ditch it. Whichever.
     
    Savageduck, Sep 12, 2012
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  8. Savageduck

    tony cooper Guest

    I understand that, and I like the idea of submitting an image for
    others to work on. It's just that I also understand Floyd's view that
    he doesn't see the point in working on an image that has nothing much
    to offer in the first place. One of the rare times that I agree with
    Floyd.
     
    tony cooper, Sep 12, 2012
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  9. Savageduck

    Savageduck Guest

    Fair enough. That was pretty much why I thought it would have been a
    good candidate for this game.

    Naturally I could have thrown this bizarre musician out there. ;-)
    < http://db.tt/jxLWkfVq >
     
    Savageduck, Sep 12, 2012
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  10. Savageduck

    tony cooper Guest

    I like that image. Your other image, though, is better for "rescue".
    This is one is better to look at.
     
    tony cooper, Sep 12, 2012
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  11. Savageduck

    sid Guest

    Although I also tend to agree with Floyd and Tony, I'm still in the game or
    will be if you could post the NEF, please, so I can open it in bibble. For
    some bizarre reason it will save as DNG but will not open a DNG. I've never
    come across this before as I've not got any files saved as DNG.
     
    sid, Sep 12, 2012
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  12. Savageduck

    Alan Browne Guest

    It's a good composition.

    Also a bit soft. Was VR off? (or even available?).

    You shot this at 1/125 @ 200mm - worse: on a cropped camera so
    effectively 300mm where the handheld rule of thumb goes - your
    recommended shutter speed would have been 1/320 or faster.

    Spouting the obvious you could have bumped up the ISO a stop or 2
    (failing the use of a tripod or mono).
     
    Alan Browne, Sep 12, 2012
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  13. Savageduck

    Savageduck Guest

    OK! The NEF is on its way. Just as others have noted this was not a
    keeper from the start, which is why I was interested to see what others
    might make of it.

    < http://db.tt/NDhJ7qfg >
     
    Savageduck, Sep 12, 2012
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  14. Savageduck

    tony cooper Guest

    All of my shots are a bit soft. I really don't have good glass. That
    was shot with my 55/200 Nikon kit lens. It was taken in a park in
    Savannah, and I was clear across the park.
    When I'm out and about looking for "street" shots, I generally set the
    camera to shutter priority and the speed to 1/125th and ISO 200 and
    RAW. That's a safe setting to freeze ordinary movement. In this case,
    it was set to f/11 by the camera, so the speed could have been bumped
    up, but "street" involves snapping what you see before it's gone. The
    best "street" stuff comes from turn-and-shoot, but I often give
    something up doing that.
    The Nikon D60 does not do high ISO well at all. Even 400 produces
    noise. I don't care what Nikon says or whatever camera reviewer says,
    the D60 sucks high ISO. 400 can be noisy, and 800 looks like sparks
    from campfire.

    Tripod? Never when looking for "street". I own one, and I use it,
    but never carry it when out and about in the city. I do carry it in
    the car. When using a tripod, I turn VR off, but leave it on at all
    other times.
     
    tony cooper, Sep 13, 2012
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  15. Savageduck

    tony cooper Guest

    Trying to download the .dng, I get a page of code. The .jpg opens,
    but not the .dng.
     
    tony cooper, Sep 13, 2012
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    Savageduck Guest

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    Savageduck Guest

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  18. Savageduck

    tony cooper Guest

    Jeez. A NEF download won't open in CS4 for me. That happened last
    time, too. The file you sent in email will not open, either. (I can
    send screen shots of what happens, but it really doesn't matter.

    (A NEF from my camera works fine, though)

    I have the file now, though. I copied the URL to a thumb drive,
    opened that on my laptop, downloaded, and opened that in Adobe
    Converter (which I have on the laptop, but not desktop), converted NEF
    to DNG, brought the thumb drive to my desktop, and I can open it from
    there.
    Nope.

    I could add the converter to my desktop, but I haven't had any reason
    to use it other than your links.
     
    tony cooper, Sep 13, 2012
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  19. Savageduck

    tony cooper Guest

    Won't open.
     
    tony cooper, Sep 13, 2012
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  20. Savageduck

    Savageduck Guest

    I don't want to second guess you here, but I am assuming that you
    downloaded the dng using the "download" link below the message rather
    than trying to open it directly.

    I had sent a copy to myself. I opened GMail in Chrome, downloaded the
    file, clicked on the downloaded dng and it opened without issue in ACR.
     
    Savageduck, Sep 13, 2012
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