A Banjo Player Exercise for All

Discussion in 'Photography' started by Savageduck, Sep 12, 2012.

  1. Savageduck

    Savageduck Guest

    Savageduck, Sep 14, 2012
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    Savageduck Guest

    However as a slightly more serious effort, try this:
    < http://db.tt/Hjidoi4O >
     
    Savageduck, Sep 14, 2012
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    otter Guest

    otter, Sep 14, 2012
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    Alan Browne Guest

    <sigh> sorry I brought it up <wanders off to bed>
     
    Alan Browne, Sep 14, 2012
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    Savageduck Guest

    The idea is to use one of your original. Tongue in cheek jabs can
    occasionally backfire.
    Now get your beauty sleep.
     
    Savageduck, Sep 14, 2012
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    Alan Browne Guest

    You can DL it from NAT geo too.
     
    Alan Browne, Sep 14, 2012
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    Savageduck Guest

    I think Otter means, he knows it is Steve McCurry's NatGeo shot, and
    putting his variation up on his flickr page might be problematic in
    another sense.
     
    Savageduck, Sep 14, 2012
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    Alan Browne Guest

    I think I know that but I was offering up another, better image for his
    own enjoyment. I also think that I got the idea from you.

    I babble on usenet therefore I am. I think.
     
    Alan Browne, Sep 14, 2012
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    PeterN Guest

    The point of working on an image that has nothing much to offer is to
    practice seeing and technique.
     
    PeterN, Sep 15, 2012
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    PeterN Guest

    Early on I learned that my style of shooting needs a high ISO. I turn
    off VR when shooting moving birds and animals. While I do get some
    grain, I personally do not think it is objectionable.
     
    PeterN, Sep 15, 2012
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    tony cooper Guest

    Sorta. I would rather work on an image with the potential to be good.
    When an almost-good photo can be made into a good photo, there's a
    sense of satisfaction gained. When there's no potential, it's
    difficult to really get interested.
     
    tony cooper, Sep 16, 2012
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    tony cooper Guest

    You may have a camera that doesn't have the problem with high ISO
    settings like the Nikon D60 does.
     
    tony cooper, Sep 16, 2012
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    Alan Browne Guest

    That is the heart of it.

    Photography requires more getting it right from the beginning so that
    the most can be done with an image. Trying to make a silk purse from a
    sow's ear is quite the skill but not the most fruitful avenue.

    We (mostly) all prefer to buy D/SLR's and various lenses, tripods,
    filters, flashes and other accessories in order to maximize the quality
    of the image at capture time.

    That in large measure is so that the image is the best that it can be
    (for the budget) before we adjust it, crop it and print it.

    I'd much rather work on my front of the process skills such that editing
    is more about presenting the image than rescuing something from a bad
    capture.
     
    Alan Browne, Sep 16, 2012
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    otter Guest

    Yeah. I like to keep other people's content off my flickr page,
    unless there is consent of the owner.

    Besides just the moral issue, I've heard stories (verified) of people
    getting billed (thousands of dollars) by companies like Getty for
    hosting a picture on their website that they didn't have rights to.
    Not sure if McCurry contracts through Getty, or just NatGeo, but
    either way I don't want the picture on my page.
     
    otter, Sep 16, 2012
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    Alan Browne Guest

    The photo in question is NatGeo's. They also offer it for free DL at
    moderate resolution. Which isn't to say they would allow you to post it.

    As to Getty, they could simply demand such photos be removed (the usual
    remedy) but instead they are sending settlement demand letters for
    payment. This (from what I've read) is typically in the case of expired
    licensed images and has created a notion of the Getty Demand Letter
    Scam. (The problem, seems to me to be with website designers who use
    1-year (or so) licensed images and then abandon the site owner to deal
    with the issue later).

    http://www.extortionletterinfo.com/
    (a bit hoaky)

    http://womeninbusiness.about.com/b/...settlement-demand-letter-scam-or-for-real.htm

    One comment is telling:
    "" Getty could be in violation of the Fair Debt Practices Act^, which
    stipulates that under no circumstances can a debt collector threaten
    a lawsuit when they have no intention of filing one. To date, no one
    single lawsuit has been filed by these retards. ""
    (Caveat: I have no idea if that comment is valid - and in any case would
    apply to the US and not necessarily anywhere else. )

    ^The law in question seems to be the "Fair Debt Collection Practices Act".

    http://www.seotrainingsw.com/2011/09/getty-images-demand-letter/
    Is interesting too. It adds the following:

    -Immediately remove the images from your website
    -Block archive.org bot in your robots.txt file from accessing
    your website (and thus remove your site from the archive.org index)
    -Dispute the invoice & send them a letter
    -Ignore all future phone calls and letters (do not respond) [unless
    they are from the courts]
    -If anyone does call you, it is recommended that you “Strongly dispute
    the invoice and want all further communication in writing”

    The last suggestion there is probably the most useful. Do not say or
    accept anything over the phone.

    Search on the "Getty Settlement Demand Letter" for more.

    Of course, all the above aside, should one receive such a letter a phone
    call to your lawyer should be your first step.
     
    Alan Browne, Sep 16, 2012
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    PeterN Guest

    yup! I use a D300, and am looking for something with higher ISO usability.
     
    PeterN, Sep 17, 2012
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    PeterN Guest

    That was my issue with the banjo player. I played for a few minutes, and
    then someone posted something very similar to my changes.
     
    PeterN, Sep 17, 2012
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    PeterN Guest

    I decided to play and took a slightly different approach

    <https://www.dropbox.com/home#!/home/Public>
     
    PeterN, Sep 18, 2012
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    PeterN Guest

    PeterN, Sep 18, 2012
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