A feature lacking in video editors

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by Brian, Jul 6, 2009.

  1. Brian

    Brian Guest

    I've tried using a few video editors in the past and wish there was a
    feature for quickly and easily removing a unwanted sound, unless
    someone knows of an easy method.

    At the moment to remove a short sound such as a loud bang you can
    cause the sound level to drip by adding four key frames to the sound
    volume adjustment line. You can also cut the video clip at the start
    and end of the unwanted sound and reduce the sound on the cut piece of
    video. It's easy but you can end up with a lot of cuts to the clip if
    there's a many sounds to be removed such as a dog barking.
    It would be nice if there was an option to mark the start and end of a
    unwanted sound and a button you could clip to silence (or reduce) the
    sound.
    I often find myself having to reduce or mute the sound volume in parts
    of a video clip for reasons such as filming a concert on stage and
    picking up someone's loud voice screaming with excitement. Dog
    barking, person coughing, gate loudly shutting, something knocked
    over, unwanted talking, etc are other reasons.

    Regards Brian
     
    Brian, Jul 6, 2009
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  2. Brian

    Steve King Guest

    | I've tried using a few video editors in the past and wish there was a
    | feature for quickly and easily removing a unwanted sound, unless
    | someone knows of an easy method.
    |
    | At the moment to remove a short sound such as a loud bang you can
    | cause the sound level to drip by adding four key frames to the sound
    | volume adjustment line. You can also cut the video clip at the start
    | and end of the unwanted sound and reduce the sound on the cut piece of
    | video. It's easy but you can end up with a lot of cuts to the clip if
    | there's a many sounds to be removed such as a dog barking.
    | It would be nice if there was an option to mark the start and end of a
    | unwanted sound and a button you could clip to silence (or reduce) the
    | sound.
    | I often find myself having to reduce or mute the sound volume in parts
    | of a video clip for reasons such as filming a concert on stage and
    | picking up someone's loud voice screaming with excitement. Dog
    | barking, person coughing, gate loudly shutting, something knocked
    | over, unwanted talking, etc are other reasons.
    |
    | Regards Brian

    I don't have experience with a lot of NLEs, but Vegas and Final Cut Pro both
    have easy methods for modifying the volume of the sound to do what you want.
    For instance, it is easy enough in both of those programs to clip out the
    offending sound and replace it with nearby similar sound. A little dissolve
    in and out often makes the edit imperceptible. I'm not an editor, but I
    work with editors frequently, and my impression is that this is pretty
    basic.

    Steve King
     
    Steve King, Jul 6, 2009
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  3. Brian

    Brian Guest

    If this is an automatic operation where the program selects a nearby
    sound automatically and replaces the unwanted sound then it is a very
    useful feature for the two video editing programs.

    Regards Brian
     
    Brian, Jul 6, 2009
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  4. Um..., it's called "editing"...;-) It's what we do. Back when
    I shot weddings, during the vows a bride that would "boom"
    during the rehearsal would almost invariably whisper, unlike
    the groom, and I would need to do serious word-to-word
    audio level editing of her to get her audible. I got pretty good
    at digging her words out of the background...;-) BTW, you
    may not want to go for absolute "clean" perfection, since in
    the process, you may do more damage than what was there
    before. Reduce (usually not remove, especially with cuts
    unless you are willing to replace audio and blend ends)
    what is the most offensive, and live with the rest - after all,
    that was there in the original experience.
    --DR
     
    David Ruether, Jul 6, 2009
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  5. I forgot to add that sometimes using noise-reduction and
    compressor/expander filtering on a track can help, but if not
    used carefully, there can be unfortunate artifacts.
    --DR
     
    David Ruether, Jul 6, 2009
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  6. Brian

    ushere Guest

    exactly what nle's have you used? what you're describing is stand in all
    'serious' nle's.
     
    ushere, Jul 10, 2009
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  7. Brian

    Brian Guest

    I have in the past tried Vegas video, Ulead Videostudio, Premiere Pro
    6, Power Director, and a few I can't remember. Most seem to have trail
    periods. Before switching to Adobe Preimere elements I was using Ulead
    Videostudio. I look for useful features. If it's a major task to do
    simple editing then it's not a good video editor.

    Regards Brian
     
    Brian, Jul 12, 2009
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  8. Brian

    ushere Guest

    i suppose it all depends on what you consider 'useful', and ditto
    'simple' editing.
     
    ushere, Jul 12, 2009
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  9. Brian

    Steve King Guest

    |
    | >bucky3 wrote:
    | >>> I've tried using a few video editors in the past and wish there was
    | >>> a feature for quickly and easily removing a unwanted sound, unless
    | >>> someone knows of an easy method.
    | >>
    | >> That would be a nice feature. I end up just using Audacity to edit
    | >> the audio file separately, then replacing the audio track with my
    | >> edited version.
    | >>
    | >
    | >exactly what nle's have you used? what you're describing is stand in all
    | >'serious' nle's.
    |
    | I have in the past tried Vegas video, Ulead Videostudio, Premiere Pro
    | 6, Power Director, and a few I can't remember. Most seem to have trail
    | periods. Before switching to Adobe Preimere elements I was using Ulead
    | Videostudio. I look for useful features. If it's a major task to do
    | simple editing then it's not a good video editor.

    Often what seems like a "major task" to someone new to any kind of software
    becomes dead easy with a little more knowlege. I don't know how many times
    I've complained about some seeming ly arduous process I've figured out for
    my self in Vegas only to have a really competent editor with the software
    say, "Oh. You do it this way." And, with a keystroke or two he
    accomplishes what I was doing in a many-step process. When people complain
    that "it" won't do this or that, I believe that "it" is often the operator
    not the software --- not that various software do not have many real
    advantages and disadvantages. Just saying.

    Steve King
     
    Steve King, Jul 12, 2009
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