A none digital post

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by Scott W, Sep 8, 2008.

  1. Scott W

    Scott W Guest

    This is my point, the 35mm group would be way down in post regardless
    whether digital topics are posted here or not.

    Scott
     
    Scott W, Sep 11, 2008
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  2. Scott W

    Scott W Guest

    I have no problem at all with film related posts.

    I don't hate film, but I don't like to use it anymore, at one time I
    was rather fond of using it.

    Scott
     
    Scott W, Sep 11, 2008
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    Bruce Guest


    That's probably true. But it isn't just 'way down' in film posts,
    they are now almost completely absent. That is almost certainly
    because the newsgroup has been hijacked by people who shoot only
    digital and use this newsgroup to belittle film and its users.

    It doesn't help that the main protagonist in the long-running feud
    that so deeply poisons the atmosphere here is an ignorant, aggressive
    digital user who uses every possible opportunity to attack film and
    film users (he will be *so proud* to read that, which speaks volumes).
    When there are some very, very good moderated forums that cater for
    film users, offer excellent opportunities for polite discussion and
    don't suffer from the constant, destructive attentions of such a
    person, why on earth would film users want to come here instead? To
    be insulted?
     
    Bruce, Sep 11, 2008
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    SMS Guest

    Note that at the time the charter was written, digital cameras _were_ in
    existence, though not ones with full frame sensors. Those who wrote the
    charter wisely did not burden it with excessive verbiage for a good
    reason. In fact, despite the name of the group, they didn't even limit
    it to 35mm per se, because they went on to mention things like half-frame.

    Many of us own 35mm SLR film bodies and went on to buy compatible
    digital bodies, and still have an interest in both digital and film 35mm
    equipment.

    Rather than continuing to annoy everyone by being so obnoxious, David
    should form a new Usenet group dedicated exclusively to 35 mm film
    equipment. cameras. He can call it rec.photo.equipment.35mm.film. He can
    write the charter in a way that explicitly excludes digital equipment
    from discussion, and in fact he will likely have the new group all to
    himself. No one will think any worse of him if he admits his mistakes
    and moves on.

    Personally I don't care much. His e-mail address is in my kill-file, and
    his last name is a subject word filter since I'm also not interested in
    reading all the threads attacking him, which I now only see when the
    subject doesn't include his name.
     
    SMS, Sep 12, 2008
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    Noons Guest

    Bruce wrote,on my timestamp of 12/09/2008 5:32 AM:
    bingo...
     
    Noons, Sep 13, 2008
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  6. Scott W

    Noons Guest

    SMS wrote,on my timestamp of 13/09/2008 4:45 AM:

    Really? Who are they?

    Funny. He doesn't annoy me one bit, so the "everyone"
    is a false statement. But let's not allow simple facts
    get in the way of another pile of false conclusions...


    Or perhaps he should simply insist that the EXISTING newsgroups
    be used for what they were created for. And it's idiots who can't
    abide by simple rules and who insist on "re-inventing" them
    who should MOVE ON?


    that much is clear. So why don't you "move on"?

    In other words, the typical fanatical approach that
    if something is not convenient to hear, one simply covers
    the ears with cupped hands and yells "lahlahlahlah".

    Works great in primary school. Why do you insist
    that real life is primary school?
     
    Noons, Sep 13, 2008
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    BlackShadow Guest

    Me for one. I own a lot of very high quality Minolta glass, and among other
    brands I now own a couple of Sony cameras. I still have and use a high end
    Minolta film body. I have several Nikon bodies, but only one Nikon digital
    as my leaning is toward Minolta/Sony because of the huge difference in used
    lens prices. I never was much of a Canon fan, not that I have anything
    against Canon, just that in the early days I was Nikon/Minolta orientated.
    You had to lean in one direction or another, remaining exactly vertical
    was too much hard work.

    He is as about appealing to me as a bus load of rappers. Maybe you like rap
    or its photographic equivalent.
    Aw, be nice, Brett and Rita would have nowhere to go.
    He did. Two other people have taken his place. Can't you tell?
    In polite circles they don't cover their ears, they place their finger
    firmly in their ears and blow raspberries.
    It isn't?

    Damn,I wonder if it is too late too change my order for playlunch?

    BlackShadow
     
    BlackShadow, Sep 13, 2008
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    Noons Guest

    BlackShadow wrote,on my timestamp of 13/09/2008 6:52 PM:

    Hmmm, I nearly damn well ended up being a Minolta
    guy. Turned out I got a Nikon F for the underwater
    housing before I could find a Minolta with removable
    prism, otherwise things would have been different.


    Ooops, sorry!
    :)

    that works too! LOL!

    NO more vegemite sangas for you!
     
    Noons, Sep 13, 2008
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    SMS Guest

    Not sure who Brett is, but I think as Rita is kill-filed even more than
    David.

    But I agree with Noons about David needing to abide by the charter. It
    really messes up the groups when you have a wanna-be net cop cluttering
    the group with complaints about non-existent charter violations.


    Personally I don't care much.
    If someone wants to argue about something concrete, that's fine and I'll
    have a vigorous debate. When someone exists, like David, just to
    complain when others don't abide by some non-existent rules that he
    claims exist but can't substantiate, it's better just to kill-file them
    and move on. It's like the kid on the playground that doesn't want to
    play four-square, but enjoys messing up the game for everyone
    else--that's David.
     
    SMS, Sep 14, 2008
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    Paul Furman Guest

    Just ignore the annoying people. I come here to discuss 35mm photography.

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    Paul Furman
    www.edgehill.net
    www.baynatives.com

    all google groups messages filtered due to spam
     
    Paul Furman, Sep 14, 2008
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