A Photo Made Possible by Modern Camera Technology

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by M-M, Jun 16, 2007.

  1. M-M

    M-M Guest

    The technology that saved the day:

    Nikon VR: The exposure was 1/30 handheld at 300mm (450 equiv)!

    Nikon D-Lighting: It was underexposed and corrected in-camera. I know it
    is possible to produce the same effect with Photoshop, but I couldn't
    with Elements. I think you need to use curves.

    No other post-processing except cropping and resizing:

    M-M, Jun 16, 2007
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    maria Guest

    I took the liberty of playting with the image a little.
    I will delete it in a couple of hours.


    maria, Jun 16, 2007
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  3. To be honest, I like the original better. It is just more natural while the
    processing you did introduced an artifical feeling, that I would expect on
    cheesy post cards where the color saturation is turned up as far as

    But that may very well be just me.

    Jürgen Exner, Jun 16, 2007
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    It could be your browser or monitor as well. The original is good, but
    dull; possibly it's an aRGB image which displays in sRGB. The
    adjustments look good on my screen.
    John McWilliams, Jun 16, 2007
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    M-M Guest

    I know it could have been sharpened a bit. Here it is after Elements USM:

    I also inset the original underexposed image with the histograms showing
    how the camera changed the levels:

    M-M, Jun 16, 2007
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    George Kerby Guest

    Looks like what it is.
    George Kerby, Jun 16, 2007
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    George Kerby Guest

    No it isn't just you. It's awful. Believe me.
    George Kerby, Jun 16, 2007
  8. Rita Ä Berkowitz, Jun 16, 2007
  9. What color space are you working in? What was it exported to for the web?

    I wish folks wouldn't post a picture for a very short time; not
    everyone can see the variations, and going back to check on initial
    impressions becomes difficult.
    John McWilliams, Jun 16, 2007
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    RichA Guest

    I wish I had VR. 1/125sec, handheld 300mm (600mm equivalent).
    RichA, Jun 16, 2007
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    soulis Guest

    I made the image sharper and more contrasty.
    I consider it copyrighted by its owner. That is why
    I deleted it. If you want to see my work, over 800 images, total,
    please go to


    I think that you won't be disappointed.
    Thank you guys.

    soulis, Jun 16, 2007
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    George Kerby Guest

    George Kerby, Jun 16, 2007
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    M-M Guest

    What color space are you working in? What was it exported to for the web?[/QUOTE]

    I wish I understood that concept better. I did get some sort of warning
    in Photoshop when I flattened it.

    What do I look for to get you your answer?
    M-M, Jun 16, 2007
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    ASAAR Guest

    The EXIF shows that the color space used was sRGB. The D80 has
    two sRGB menu options, Ia and IIIa. I'm not familiar enough with
    the EXIF to know if it has any info. buried within it to distinguish
    between Ia and IIIa. The manual indicates that Ia is preferable for
    portraits and IIIa is better used for nature or landscape shots.
    ASAAR, Jun 16, 2007

  15. The image, tho, is untagged, and for whatever reason, shows just like an
    aRBG image does in a color-UNmanaged browser; but it also shows poorly
    in Safari, which is color managed.

    However, it displays just right in PS, and then, by *assigning* the sRGB
    space, it displays right in Safari, but not Firefox.

    By *"converting"* it to sRGB, it displays right in both above browsers.
    The assigning and converting do not gainsay that it was done in sRGB all
    the way; just reporting what occurred here.
    John McWilliams, Jun 16, 2007
  16. I wish I understood that concept better. I did get some sort of warning
    in Photoshop when I flattened it.

    What do I look for to get you your answer?[/QUOTE]

    I think a lot of answers might come if you posted also the same photo,
    but running "convert to profile" and choosing sRGB. Yes, I do believe
    that that's the space you've been working in, but on the web site, it's
    showing that it's "untagged"; therefor no "official" color space.
    John McWilliams, Jun 16, 2007
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    M-M Guest

    The color mode on my camera is IIIa. Now what?
    M-M, Jun 16, 2007
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    ASAAR Guest

    Beats me. The initial question was about the color space, and I
    assumed, probably incorrectly, that the working color space would be
    what the D80 was configured for. The other guys (you too) know more
    about Photoshop today than I'll know a year from now. :)
    ASAAR, Jun 17, 2007
  19. Rita Ä Berkowitz, Jun 17, 2007
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    Rich Guest

    People who buy the 70-200mm are spoiled. When they go to get
    something else, it never seems as sharp.
    Rich, Jun 17, 2007
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