A question about KCMO Police.

Discussion in 'Photography' started by topper77, Jan 9, 2004.

  1. topper77

    topper77 Guest

    What is it about the Kansas City MO. police department and people taking
    photos?
    Monday night a friend and I were using her new pinhole box camera to take
    some long exposure pictures of the Neon Signs she has added to her
    storefront. All was going well until this jerk off of a KCMO cop pulls into
    the lot and as soon as he steps out of car he is screaming and swearing,
    telling us to "haul our fagit asses out of there."; "get my black ass back
    to south kc"; etc.
    I ask him why he thought I was black and told him I was an Native American,
    and I thought he was going to shoot me.
    He was screaming how the owner of the property had called "Bitching" about
    us being there, Amy (my friend) try to explain to him she owned the whole
    building and he went totally nuts.
    Amy and I both felt like he was looking for a reason to kill the two of us.
    Long story short, we loaded up and left, the cop was so out of it he keep
    screaming and kicking the busted up chucks of ice in the lot. This guy was
    totally insane. We mentioned it to a clerk at QT, he laughed, then
    described the Cop and his behavior to the smallest detail, informing us we
    were right, and if he found any reason at all he would have killed us. He
    also told us how the cop tried to sell real-estate during the day and sleep
    on duty at night, whenever he got woke up, he was never happy.

    I have lived in KCMO for seven months and this is far from the first run in
    I have had with them. My Aunt and Uncle who I stay with while at the Art
    Institute are both Photographers and both have had numerous run ins with the
    local cops; and my Uncle is a former Judge.

    Without an exception, every student at the Kansas City Art Institute has
    some type of horror story about the police.

    Is it just KC or do other towns take such a poor view of Photographers?

    Topper77
     
    topper77, Jan 9, 2004
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  2. topper77

    RSD99 Guest

    Sounds like you (collectively) actually do have a problem.

    Document it (such as make audio recordings of one of the encounters, etcetera ... but be
    careful here, the "cop" can really get bent out of shape if he catches on), and make a
    presentation to whomever the police department reports to within the local government
    structure!
     
    RSD99, Jan 9, 2004
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  3. Did you bother to take his badge number and file a formal complaint ?

    Dave



    | What is it about the Kansas City MO. police department and people taking
    | photos?
    | Monday night a friend and I were using her new pinhole box camera to take
    | some long exposure pictures of the Neon Signs she has added to her
    | storefront. All was going well until this jerk off of a KCMO cop pulls into
    | the lot and as soon as he steps out of car he is screaming and swearing,
    | telling us to "haul our fagit asses out of there."; "get my black ass back
    | to south kc"; etc.
    | I ask him why he thought I was black and told him I was an Native American,
    | and I thought he was going to shoot me.
    | He was screaming how the owner of the property had called "Bitching" about
    | us being there, Amy (my friend) try to explain to him she owned the whole
    | building and he went totally nuts.
    | Amy and I both felt like he was looking for a reason to kill the two of us.
    | Long story short, we loaded up and left, the cop was so out of it he keep
    | screaming and kicking the busted up chucks of ice in the lot. This guy was
    | totally insane. We mentioned it to a clerk at QT, he laughed, then
    | described the Cop and his behavior to the smallest detail, informing us we
    | were right, and if he found any reason at all he would have killed us. He
    | also told us how the cop tried to sell real-estate during the day and sleep
    | on duty at night, whenever he got woke up, he was never happy.
    |
    | I have lived in KCMO for seven months and this is far from the first run in
    | I have had with them. My Aunt and Uncle who I stay with while at the Art
    | Institute are both Photographers and both have had numerous run ins with the
    | local cops; and my Uncle is a former Judge.
    |
    | Without an exception, every student at the Kansas City Art Institute has
    | some type of horror story about the police.
    |
    | Is it just KC or do other towns take such a poor view of Photographers?
    |
    | Topper77
    |
    |
    |
    |
     
    David H. Lipman, Jan 9, 2004
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  4. topper77

    topper77 Guest

    We do have his name and badge #, on the advice of several persons, we have
    "not" filed a complaint. To file a complaint against the KCMO,PD is not
    advised. The cops here sticks together, no questions ask, and if all the
    people I'v talked to say the same thing about the cops, I'm not going to end
    up dead in a car wash like some others have.
    "All they have to say is they fired fearing thier own saftey and they walk
    off." That is what my advisor told me and he should known, he worked for the
    Kansas City Star newspaper for more years than I've been alive.
    If it keeps up, I'll go back to the RES.

    Topper77
     
    topper77, Jan 9, 2004
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    Colyn Guest

    Sounds like a crock to me..otherwise known as a troll..



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    Colyn, Jan 9, 2004
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  6. topper77

    Robert Polk Guest

    Takes one to know one. I believe it's true.
    Old Bob
     
    Robert Polk, Jan 9, 2004
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  7. topper77

    RSD99 Guest

    Try the MO State Police ...



     
    RSD99, Jan 10, 2004
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  8. topper77

    I Decline Guest

    Are you saying you're surprised by an ignorant, racist and dangerous police
    officer? The job just doesn't attract many decent people in the first
    place, and the really good people who do join tend to burn out, either due
    to the stress of the job, or the stress of being surrounded by bullies in
    blue all day long. Police are scary and to be avoided at all costs.
     
    I Decline, Jan 10, 2004
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  9. topper77

    Princess Guest

    I truly feel sorry for you all who have this mentality "Police are scary and
    to be avoided at all costs." WOW is this an American thing? I live in BC,
    Canada and here, we actually believe that the police are here to serve and
    protect. Unless you have some real reason to fear them (you are involved in
    illegal activity), the police are your friends.
    I am sad to know that not all live in a society protected by the police.
     
    Princess, Jan 10, 2004
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  10. Search the 'net for Rodney King (yes, he's a jerk, but the video of his
    beating is quite something to see). Yes, Princess, pray that the kind of
    violence that occurs just yards from the White House, in New York City,
    Chicago, Detroit, Denver, etc never crosses the border into Canada.
    Now, let's get off this dismal subject and get back to photgraphy, shall we?
     
    Larry CdeBaca, Jan 10, 2004
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  11. topper77

    I Decline Guest

    Don't feel sorry about the mentality, feel sorry for the necessity of the
    mentality. Yeah, yeah, Canada *is* what the US *thinks* it is. You folks
    by and large have rational laws and a liberal society. We have gov't in bed
    with corporations bent on sustaining maximum profit at the cost of life and
    liberty for the majority of our citizenry. They use the media to control
    the masses by force feeding us fear 24/7, distracting us from what our
    leaders are doing by terrorizing us with what our neighbor *might* be
    plotting against us. Ever compare and contrast US news with Canadian News?
    If it bleeds it leads, as they say. How many homeless do you have on the
    streets in BC? How many people do you know who don't get basic health care
    because they can't afford it?

    Watch TV, Be Afraid, Consume and Don't Ask Questions. 2004 should be an
    interesting year.

    Oh yeah, I love photography!!!
     
    I Decline, Jan 15, 2004
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  12. topper77

    Phil Baker Guest

    Topper77 --

    I live in St. Louis, MO. I have lived over 40 years in the County (which is
    safer than the City), but I have never seen behavior like that. On the
    other hand, I'm white. If I appeared Native American (I'm actually
    one-sixteenth Creek Indian, but it does not show) or African-American, I
    imagine my experiences would be different.

    Anyway, I suggest that you might file this case (with as much documentation
    and eyewitness testimony as possible) with the MO State Attorney General in
    Jefferson City, since you are concerned about filing with the KC police.
    This should be safer -- but of course there are no guarantees that you would
    NOT get repercussions from the KC police.

    I wish you well, whether you report this or not.

    Unfortunately, there are many injustices in this world. The only time that
    we will get perfect justice is when Jesus comes back. I urge you to trust
    in Him NOW as your Lord and Savior. Ask Him to forgive all your sins
    because He died for our sins, and then He will give you eternal life and
    peace with God, because He rose from the dead for us, as well as to prove
    that He really was who He said He was -- the Son of God, fully God and fully
    man.

    Phil Baker
     
    Phil Baker, Jan 22, 2004
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  13. topper77

    Steve Guest

    I find this interesting . . . I have been all over KCMO shooting
    photos at all hours of the day and night. We have never been
    questioned by the police. My age may have a lot to do with it since I
    am middle-aged.

    Steve
     
    Steve, Feb 17, 2004
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