A Tablet Mainly for Selecting Areas With Photoshop? Tired of the Lasso Tool!

Discussion in 'Photoshop Tutorials' started by Kingdom, Jun 19, 2005.

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    Kingdom Guest

    Think you miss the point here, a tblet pen simply replaces the mouse, you
    still need to use PS tools so you would still be using the lasso tool to
    make selections. Certainly the pen gives better control and is easier to
    hold, If your "only" going to use it for making selection you'll only
    require a Wacom Graphire.
     
    Kingdom, Jun 19, 2005
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  2. Eh? You aren't using the magnetic lasso, are you?

    Cheers,
    Nicholas Sherlock
     
    Nicholas Sherlock, Jun 19, 2005
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    maria Guest

    I need to purchase a tablet mainly for selecting areas of an image
    when I am working with Adobe Photshop CS. I am getting tired of long
    hours spent on selecting an area of a digital image for further
    processing it and its complement. Would the Intuos 3 6x8 tablet make
    the job easier for me? Wouldn't it be much easier to use the pen
    instead of the Photoshop lasso tool?
    Thank you!

    maria
     
    maria, Jun 19, 2005
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    maria Guest

    Well, not exactly! I can use the pen to trace the border of the
    subject with an appropriate color. The lasso tool will then select the
    desired subject much easier. This is what I actually meant.
    Thank you!

    maria
     
    maria, Jun 19, 2005
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    maria Guest

    Nicholas,

    The problem is that most of the time I don't have high-contrast
    backgrounds. Too many times, the borderline color of the subject
    mingles with the neighboring colors. It is a pain in the neck to
    isolate those places by using the mouse to draw some solid
    high-contrast separation line. Then I can use the Photoshop lassos.
    I need the tablet to draw those lines by hand, not with the mouse.
    This is the main difference here. Using my hand instead of the mouse.
    Thank you!

    maria
     
    maria, Jun 19, 2005
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  6. But.. you don't need to have a high contrast area to use the real lasso.
    I think that you may be using the magnetic lasso - which snaps to high
    contrast lines - by accident. You could also experiment by building a
    selection with the quick mask tool.

    Cheers,
    Nicholas Sherlock
     
    Nicholas Sherlock, Jun 19, 2005
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    yesnno Guest

    I also found selecting an object that has borders that "mingle" (or
    blend, fade?) into the background rather difficult. Even more difficult
    is an object that has this kind of borders as well as high contrast
    borders. My attempts to use a single tool to make these selections got
    me nowhere. Unfortunately I started out down this path following the
    tutorials in the books. But the authors cheat like crazy by using hand
    picked examples that can be selected easily with a single tool.

    What finally works for me is to make a (very) rough selection first,
    then get into Quick Mask, paint with different brushes with different
    opacity/flow, optionally applying Gausian Blur to the mask, and finally
    get out of Quick Mask for the selection I want. This works far better
    than using any single tool to make a good selection.

    I don't use a tablet for this, but have been told that they will make
    the painting part easier and more accurate.
     
    yesnno, Jun 19, 2005
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    georgie Guest

    We use the Wacom Intuos2 4" x 5" and find it a very nice replacement for the
    mouse when selecting, drawing, and painting. The Intuos3 6" x 8" would be
    even better. I think you would be very happy with it.

    g
     
    georgie, Jun 19, 2005
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    Tacit Guest

    In that case, you're probably going about making your selection the hard
    way. Instead of the lasso tool, use the Paintbrush tool in a QuickMask
    or layer mask.

    You do know that you can use the lasso tool without holding your finger
    down on the mouse button, right? After you start making your selection,
    place your finger on the ALT key on your keyboard. Now you can release
    the mouse button and make "point to point" selections; if you hold down
    the mouse button, the lasso tool returns to its normal mode.
     
    Tacit, Jun 19, 2005
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    Kingdom Guest

    I'm posting a very good tutorial video on using the extract command for you
    that you might find very useful and much less arduous than the lasso tool.
    You'll find it at alt.binaries.pictures.utilities, it's by Bert Monroy and
    it's in quicktime format .mov

    But do also get a Waycom tablet, they make things easier.
     
    Kingdom, Jun 19, 2005
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    Ken Wright Guest

    You do know that you can use the lasso tool without holding your finger
    I don't believe it - You're a star, and thank you so much. The times I've
    used that to go round awkward shapes, and then haphazardly tried to drag
    along a straight line as well - agghhhhhhhh. Cheers again.
     
    Ken Wright, Jun 19, 2005
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    maria Guest

    Thank you very much for the video, kingdom.
    This is an excellent video for transferring selections.
    I do use different snapshots to paint over a given subject.
    I can see you doing it in the video, in part, for transferring image
    parts.
    However, I do need the selection process itself because I need
    to work inside and outside a given saved selection.
    First, I draw over the boundarey of the subject to be selected in
    another layer. Then I select the subject with one of the lasso tools
    and save the selection. Then I load that saved selection onto
    the layer of the main image to be modifed.
    I also want to thank you all for your response, interest and help. I
    am going to purchase the Wacom Intuos 3 6x8 tablet.

    maria
     
    maria, Jun 19, 2005
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    Hunt Guest

    Maria,

    You might have better luck, and an easier workflow, if you use the Pen tool to
    create a Path for your Selection first. This is a bit tricky, on first try,
    but it doesn't take long to become proficient at it, plus the Path is
    infinitely editable. I'll go at it rough, then magnify and add points, or move
    them and form the Path to my subject. Save Path (for later, and/or smaller
    file size, should you need to delete the Selection later), then, with that
    Path active, choose Make Selection and use the Options Palette to, say Anti-
    alias, or Feather, the Selection. A mouse works fine here, though I always use
    my tablet. Do give this method a try.

    Hunt
     
    Hunt, Jun 26, 2005
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