A very unusual digital back...

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Mike Ross, Nov 10, 2003.

  1. Mike Ross

    Mike Ross Guest

    I posted (with no response!) a little while ago, posing the question
    of a 'roll-your-own' digital back for my Rollei 3003.

    I should have guessed, those clever folks at Rollei had already
    thought of it! I found a website which says...

    'The 2000 / 3003 Rollei system was HUGE, covering lenses from 15mm to
    1000mm. Unusual for 35 accessories included a Polaroid Back,
    Interchangeable film magazines, 250 exposure back, IR remote release,
    and electronic interval timer. Perhaps most unusual was the digital
    floppy disk back which was offered to the military, but not sold to
    the public.'

    Has anyone any knowledge of this back? Any more information would be

    The website is at: http://www.cameraquest.com/rol3003.htm BTW.


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  2. The Floppy disc "back" for a 35mm camera wasn't sold to the public for
    good reason.
    A floppy can only store 1.44MB of information.
    Not enough for even a single 4 MP image saved at lowest compression.
    Sony sold a ton of Mavicas with floppy disk memory in the mid-late 90s.
    They probably still sell some Mavicas with a mini-CD memory.
    The downside is that they are pretty heavy and bulky.
    In the "olden" days, 1 MP was a pretty high resolution image.
    Today it is suitable mainly for web and e-mail use.
    Bob Williams
    Robert E. Williams, Nov 10, 2003
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  3. Mike Ross

    Mike Ross Guest


    Whilst your point is well-taken (and I never liked the Mavica), there
    are slightly non-standard higher-density floppies - 2.88MB, for
    instance. And it begs the question; what were the army finding it
    useful for? Must have been good for *something*!


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  4. If you don't want to print hi-res pictures and just want to send pictures by
    e-mail, 640 x 480 pixels is plenty good.
    In fact, even if you have a 2400 x 1800 pixel image, you will have to
    resample it to 640 x 480 or thereabouts so people can view it on their
    e-mail windows. The good thing about the floppy storage, is that anybody can
    play it immediately on any PC with no training. ...No downloads from the
    camera, no Card Readers, no driver software...nada.
    In the military, you are dealing with people from such diverse backgrounds
    that you must select equipment suited to the least trained individuals.
    Perhaps the army wanted to encourage the boys who are verbally challenged
    to send pictures home to their folks.
    I saw a picture in the newspaper of a huge trailer full of computers (in
    Iraq) with soldiers sending e-mails home to their families and loved ones.
    It was said to be a very popular 'hangout".
    I figure that the Sony Mavica FD-75 could store about 20 jpeg images at 640
    x 480 pixels on a floppy. That's not bad.
    Check out the quality at:

    Bob Williams
    Robert E. Williams, Nov 10, 2003
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    Tom Monego Guest

    The quality of the early Mavicas pics was dismal. In fact it is what alot
    folks think of when they think digital photography. Their lenses were awful
    and the jpeg compression gave blurry images (truely blurry). With the FD-91
    Sony got the message and put a much better lens on it, the images were much
    better but the jpeg compression still leaves an artifact filled image. My wife
    has an FD-200 (1.3mp) for her work, the images are OK, but nothing like her
    1.3mp Fuji. The saving to a floppy is a questionable feature, Floppies have an
    extremely high failure rate compared to flash media. The FD-200 takes memory
    sticks so you at least aren't locked into floppies. Technology dies hard.

    Tom Monego, Nov 10, 2003
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    Tumbleweed Guest

    getting pictures quick where quality mattered less than speed.
    Tumbleweed, Nov 11, 2003
  7. Mike Ross

    Mike Ross Guest

    Following myself up... just to clear up the mystery, I got an email
    from rollei.de stating definitively that this never got past the
    'concept' stage... the idea had been discussed with the army, but no
    backs were actually built.

    So there we have it, if I want a digiback for my Rollei I'm gonna have
    to build my own!

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    Mike Ross, Nov 13, 2003
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